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I agree with most of the above. They are your models, do with them as you wish. If you feel they deserve a better paint job than you can do and can afford it, then by all means go for it.
i also agree that you should not get extra points for it in most tournament situations. For example, points are being awarded for how well done it is or seperate painting competitions. The exception to this is if points are awarded for it being done regardless of how well it is. Our local shop used to have 2 seperate sections of tourneys. One was for gaming points and the other is where the armies were judged. You could come in 1st in both. I did not however lol. I usually won the painting part and did not even place in the win loss points. In this, I would say it is cheating.
However, our local shop changed from that and started awarding bonus points to the win/loss scores based on IF stuff was painted/flocked and so forth. You get the same points no matter how well it is done or how badly it is done. In this situation, I would have no problem with t as it is not based on skill and is something you would have done anyway.
Of course, others have different standards and that is just my 2 cents.

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:
Suggest that if they buy you a second one, you will paint it yourself.

Yes be exact tell them to give you an upgrade to a titan.

I don't know where people are thinking that I am saying to take credit when I didn't paint it, if you enter a painting competition and state that you had the army commissioned it should be perfectly fine to both enter and have a chance to win due to the amount of cash spent on the project.

 gmaleron wrote:
I don't know where people are thinking that I am saying to take credit when I didn't paint it,...

Probably from the post where you said that it would be silly to not be able to take credit for it if you paid for it...

To whit:

 gmaleron wrote:
Its not cheating, if you paid good money for it to look good to me it is the same as painting it, to say that you cant take credit after paying extra because you want it to look good is silly. No its not cheating, I do the same thing because I want my army to look good and I do not have the time or patience to paint as well as I want the models to look.

if you enter a painting competition and state that you had the army commissioned it should be perfectly fine to both enter and have a chance to win due to the amount of cash spent on the project.

If the competition is simply for the best looking model, sure. If it's a contest of actual painting skill, then no, you're not the artist so have no right to be entering it as your own work, regardless of how much you spent for it.

 Las wrote:

 Happyjew wrote:
Well, according to some, if you don't paint the models your self, then you are not a real wargamer.

Most people won't care as long as you don't take credit for doing the work.

Oh, do get a life.

I do have a life. that is why I don't have as much time as others to paint my models.

If you state your models were commissioned when people ask, there's nothing wrong with getting them done for you.
Anything that gets painted models on the table is better than letting them pile up on a shelf.
I hate playing my models unpainted, but if I waited until they were all done, I'd get discouraged and just give up.

If the FLGS's points mentioned by EVIL INC are based on painting skill, that's one thing.
If it's to get painted models on the tables, it's all good.
If the main reason is to sell more paint, ignore the rule and take them along. The paint used in the commission might have come from there anyway.

No! The models are painted for you, yes, but it's not cheating.

I agree with the others in that it would only be cheating if you entered them into a painting competition. Also if you go around saying you painted them yourself to show off, not really cheating but it is lying

 Happyjew wrote:
Well, according to some, if you don't paint the models your self, then you are not a real wargamer.

Most people won't care as long as you don't take credit for doing the work.

Yes, well, considering it was a troll-thread, it's not surprising it's stirred up random nobodies who think they get to weigh in on how other people are doing it wrong.

Poly Ranger wrote:
Some people look down upon you if you have unpainted models.

Some people look down upon you if your painting isn't to a good standard.

Some people look down on you if other people painted your models.

Well it has absolutely jack to do with them and anyone who looks down upon you for any of the three above points is a self-righteous pompous pr-ick, in my oh so humble opinion.

Totally true - well said

 Mr Morden wrote:

Poly Ranger wrote:
Some people look down upon you if you have unpainted models.

Some people look down upon you if your painting isn't to a good standard.

Some people look down on you if other people painted your models.

Well it has absolutely jack to do with them and anyone who looks down upon you for any of the three above points is a self-righteous pompous pr-ick, in my oh so humble opinion.

Totally true - well said

Some people will look down on you if you DO have painted models or well painted models or painted them yourself claiming you have no life. There are two sides to every coin.
Personally, i treat everyone with respect and dignity and am perfectly polite to all. Looking down on anyone for any reason makes then appear to be... well, you can scrol up and see. lol
I prefer to play against painted models but it is no big deal.But as a matter of honesty, you should never enter something you did not do into a painting competition. In tourneys and such as I mentioned earlier where you only get points for it being done regardless of how well it is done, it doesnt matter who did it.

Nothing wrong with it at all. So long as you don't take credit for the work of others. Like accepting a "best painted army" nomination at a tourney.

 tyrannosaurus wrote:
A little while ago I employed a commission painter to paint [and build] my Warhound Titan [Scars Miniature Madness, awesome job BTW]. With such an expensive kit, I wanted to make sure that it got the paint job it deserved. I'm a pretty average painter, and I knew that I would not be able to do this model justice.

However a couple of people in my gaming group couldn't understand why I would employ someone else to paint my models, and implied that it was somehow 'cheating' not to paint the model myself, or that I was doing the hobby wrong. So, should getting models commission painted be considered cheating? Is it acceptable in some cases but not others? Is it perfectly reasonable to commission others to paint my models as it's my money and I should spend it as I like? Interested to know your thoughts.

don't listen to them. there is no right or wrong way to do your hobby. now if you were getting someone else to paint it and pretending that you'd done it, i'd think you were a bit of a sad case!

they're probably a bit jealous. if i got a warhound titan i'd love to paint it myself even though i'm a bit gak! but its your hobby, the only way you're doing it wrong is if a) you don't enjoy it, or b) your behaviour stops other people enjoying it. don't worry yourself!

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:
It's only cheating if you're entering the model(s) in a competition under your own name. Otherwise people can feth right off IMO.

That said, I paint my own stuff because I like doing it.

What this man said.

Commissioned painting isn't cheating. As long as your models are painted I don't give a feth who painted them.

Now, if you try entering a painting contest with a mini you commissioned from someone else, you are most definately cheating, but just playing with a commissioned army isn't "cheating" by any measure.

Incidentally, I was in a tourney at my FLGS years back and my army was tied with another army for best painted. The judges were considering splitting the prize until the other guy pointed out that I had actually painted both armies (his and mine). So at that point, I won best painted.

 tyrannosaurus wrote:
A little while ago I employed a commission painter to paint [and build] my Warhound Titan [Scars Miniature Madness, awesome job BTW]. With such an expensive kit, I wanted to make sure that it got the paint job it deserved. I'm a pretty average painter, and I knew that I would not be able to do this model justice.

However a couple of people in my gaming group couldn't understand why I would employ someone else to paint my models, and implied that it was somehow 'cheating' not to paint the model myself, or that I was doing the hobby wrong. So, should getting models commission painted be considered cheating? Is it acceptable in some cases but not others? Is it perfectly reasonable to commission others to paint my models as it's my money and I should spend it as I like? Interested to know your thoughts.

i would probably tell them that they should start cheating too then because their own work looks like crap and is an eyesore. lol

unless they are really good painters then that comeback obviously wouldn't work.