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The base is actually three CD's glued together, which is 120mm. If you'd like a pic of my dragon next to a particular mini, let me know :-)

The Heresy dragon is also still back-ordered as it has been for years, and is likely to be for some time yet. However, I'll agree the sculpt is one of my favorites!

The Cang model from CMON is similar, with a somewhat lithe body and Massive wings. Saw it in person and snapped a pic a few years ago:


Looking forward to seeing this Smaug model, though! If it's anything like the movie version, it should be stunning.

Yeah OK RiTides.. that's a badass dragon!

Also, fingers x'd it doesn't look like GW's Galrauch...

 Daemonslave wrote:
The base is actually three CD's glued together, which is 120mm. If you'd like a pic of my dragon next to a particular mini, let me know :-)

How about next to a Hobbit-sized model?

StarFyre wrote:
Magnificient egos had a dragon that was 2 feet tall to the top wing tips

http://www.fantization.com/viszeralyntheoraclegreaterdragon-limitededition.aspx

got one sitting here still in the box

not sure when i'll get around to it..or the FW fire dragon...or their chaos dragon, or the mierce one..sigh.

I can't stand the carmine dragon. think it looks pathetic for a dragon IMHO

Hope this new one is good and big. I'm fine to get it i use these for D&D...so bigger the better.

Sanjay

Still available - the ME line was bought up by Valiant, and the dragon went with it.

http://www.veltd.net/zencart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=12&products_id=1524

24" tall as posed...if you spread it out to take proper measurements the head/body/tail would be just shy of 34" long and the wingspan would be about 30". It is big.

Few years back, while at Wonderfest, I saw a garage kit for the remade Godzilla monster (not the newest one...the one from the 1990s). Limited to 250 copies. Cost $1000 per. Stood up to my shoulder (didn't have a tape measure...but that made it at least 5 feet tall). I have heard of some bigger ones coming out of the Japanese market (not even getting into the actual rubber suit replicas).

A company who was so motivated, could make one to the ridorkulous size of the movie Smaug to scale for gaming figures. Wouldn't have much actual use (can't exactly move something that big around a gaming table). Much more for the collectors than for the gamers.

Could be a scenario and you have to sneak around him to get the Arkenstone or something? Smaug wouldn't have to move much. It's just either gonna be ridiculously out of scale and overpriced, or ridiculously big and impractical gaming wise.

Although I'm hoping for the latter

wow, this cang dragon is probably the best dragon I ever saw.

 Sinful Hero wrote:

 Daemonslave wrote:
The base is actually three CD's glued together, which is 120mm. If you'd like a pic of my dragon next to a particular mini, let me know :-)

How about next to a Hobbit-sized model?

I don't own any hobbit miniatures so I'm not sure exactly what size they are but here's a few models for reference;

There are quite a few collectors waiting eagerly for this release !!

I predict it will sell out quick if only available in limited quantities.

Not looking forward to it myself, I was never a fan of the GW dragons.

Since the hobbit movie was confirmed, I've eagerly anticipated a Smaug model. This one is pushing the boundaries of what I'm willing to spend. I assumed it would be $150-$200, but at this price, it's iffy to say the least.

That said, I have pretty much loved all of the LotR/hobbit minis GW has out out, and I feel like I'm going to love this, and if I do...well, at least I'll still be able to play games with him long after GW have dropped the line.

I've been wanting a GW Smaug ever since I saw his gorgeous self in the movie, so I'm quite looking forward to this. However, even if it isn't Smaug, a giant dragon model would make me happy.

Well..he's big, but nowhere near big enough to justify his price label..

Alas, it saddens me how GW snuffed LOTR/Hobbit out as a popular-ish gaming system. Seeing that dwarf set at $190 just made me shake my head.

Well, I'm sure GW will be glad when the Hobbit is over and they can gut the game off their fancy new website.

Do you guys think it's fair to assume that as the base is clearly from the initial confrontation with Bilbo, that the rumour that it was meant for release alongside DoS and not Five Armies but got canned for not being up to scratch could now be considered confirmed?

 Azreal13 wrote:
Do you guys think it's fair to assume that as the base is clearly from the initial confrontation with Bilbo, that the rumour that it was meant for release alongside DoS and not Five Armies but got canned for not being up to scratch could now be considered confirmed?

Oh! That is a very good point and certainly matches up with that rumor. Looking at the releases for DoS and onward, the miniatures seem to have taken a further plunge in quality, and I think NewLine finally got tired of the crap when GW probably offered them a derpy-looking dragon.

 Azreal13 wrote:
Do you guys think it's fair to assume that as the base is clearly from the initial confrontation with Bilbo, that the rumour that it was meant for release alongside DoS and not Five Armies but got canned for not being up to scratch could now be considered confirmed?

I'd say so.

I'd also hazad a guess that that base is only the one a Knight uses so he isn't actually that big and certainly not worth more than $160 or so.

I'm also going to say that the pic isn't great but his face is far more derpy than scary. Though that might just be the new line design GW has to work with.

Any rumours about material yet? The price and the solidness of the base make me think finecast over plastic, which tells me GW plan on maybe selling 6 worldwide, and would make sense as a webstore exclusive.

Just shared the pic on my clubs FB page, and googled a quote to caption it.

Found this, hugely appropriate in the context I feel..

Smaug wrote:There is something about you. Something you carry, something made of gold... but far more PRECIOUS...

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 jonolikespie wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
Do you guys think it's fair to assume that as the base is clearly from the initial confrontation with Bilbo, that the rumour that it was meant for release alongside DoS and not Five Armies but got canned for not being up to scratch could now be considered confirmed?

I'd say so.

I'd also hazad a guess that that base is only the one a Knight uses so he isn't actually that big and certainly not worth more than $160 or so.

I'm also going to say that the pic isn't great but his face is far more derpy than scary. Though that might just be the new line design GW has to work with.

Any rumours about material yet? The price and the solidness of the base make me think finecast over plastic, which tells me GW plan on maybe selling 6 worldwide, and would make sense as a webstore exclusive.

I can see my IK from here, and if I extend my tablet to arms length so the base in the pic matches the size of the IK base, it looks like an exact fit, Bilbo would be about the right size.

So, by this highly precise and scientific method, I declare the base IK sized!

That's significantly shorter than the 3 foot/1.04 meter MINIMUM estimate for a properly scaled smaug then.

I'm not surprised, but I am disappointed.

Well holy crap.

Man talking about this is actually reminding me, I need to scour GWs webstore for old LotR models that are still metal. I can't imagine them still selling either line by the middle of next year.

That is going to cost $490us?

Do they not want to actually sell any?

Well, it's Games Workshop...so no, probably not. Means they don't have to get off their asses and make more than a handful of them and that's a-okay for them.

Maybe they never actually tooled the moulds and that one is the master. They're betting the cheapest option to fulfill their contract with new line is to be sure no one ever buys one.

So is the base solid gold or what because i cant see it being worth anything near 400.

Hard to make out much detail other than the wing from that pic, but it's a little underwhelming so far.

 Accolade wrote:
Alas, it saddens me how GW snuffed LOTR/Hobbit out as a popular-ish gaming system. Seeing that dwarf set at $190 just made me shake my head.

Well, I'm sure GW will be glad when the Hobbit is over and they can gut the game off their fancy new website.

I agree with this. Does anyone even play LOTR or the Hobbit anymore? And in terms of size, that's not a justification of the price! I mean, this thing is not made of silver or some rare mineral where it has intrinsic worth because you have MORE of it. In reality, that just means you're going to have a real struggle storing or transporting it....and what are you going to DO with it? I mean, how many games involving a massive dragon can you work in, when you consider that for the same price you could pretty much get a whole new army?


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 Desubot wrote:
So is the base solid gold or what because i cant see it being worth anything near 400.

Ha! We must have been writing at the same time. It's not made of Silver OR Gold...

 Azreal13 wrote:
Do you guys think it's fair to assume that as the base is clearly from the initial confrontation with Bilbo, that the rumour that it was meant for release alongside DoS and not Five Armies but got canned for not being up to scratch could now be considered confirmed?

Possibly. The late decisions to turn the Hobbit into 3 movies over 3 years rather than 2 movies over 2 years, then 3 movies over 2.5 years screwed up everyone's merchandising plans though, so could be down to that.

willb2064 wrote:
Possibly. The late decisions to turn the Hobbit into 3 movies over 3 years rather than 2 movies over 2 years, then 3 movies over 2.5 years screwed up everyone's merchandising plans though, so could be down to that.

Moving from 3 movies in 2.5 years to 3 years should have given them more time.

 Azreal13 wrote:
Do you guys think it's fair to assume that as the base is clearly from the initial confrontation with Bilbo, that the rumour that it was meant for release alongside DoS and not Five Armies but got canned for not being up to scratch could now be considered confirmed?

Surely it is, with Bilbo hiding under his claw on the right-hand side of the picture. Also, doesn't look like this is designed as a "in play" model, but more for show as a diorama. In other words, it's not a gaming model, it's a display piece.

 Ghaz wrote:

willb2064 wrote:
Possibly. The late decisions to turn the Hobbit into 3 movies over 3 years rather than 2 movies over 2 years, then 3 movies over 2.5 years screwed up everyone's merchandising plans though, so could be down to that.

Moving from 3 movies in 2.5 years to 3 years should have given them more time.

The studio has a 2+ year lead time. Pretty much everything was already completed and staff moved on to other projects (or in the case of the Perry's, left the company).