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 Lorenzo Marchetto wrote:
In our project we have spoken of the crypts.
here are the first prototypes of mummies ...
we took a cue from a famous crypt existing in Italy: "The Chapel of the Capuchin Fathers" of Palermo, to create our frightening crypts.



Alessio Cisbani has sculpted some mummies multi-pose for us.
are still to be finished.











you imagine entire crypts full of mummies hanging inside of niches... terrifying!

Lorenzo

I know that place!!!

If you make that crypt even half way like the real one, I want TWO of them.

Just saying...

Mymearan wrote:
Holy crap! This is certainly the best looking hard plastic terrain I've ever seen. Mantic and Spartan are probably green with envy right now. But it all depends on the price!

Thanks.
we are trying to create complex structures and visually pleasing. but which can be produced in hard plastic maintaining a high quality standard.
Mantic and Spartan produce different products, especially for the sci.fi.
and I'll tell you, our underground is perfect for the game Dungeon Saga of the Mantic...

the price... the price for the KS will definitely inviting and with many surprises and rewards
the price after KS, will definitely higher than that of the KS. but I am sure that we will keep it in average with other producers, if not more lower.

@Grot6. the design of the crypts will be very dark, claustrophobic, oppressive... you'll love it!

Lorenzo

Wow I love this! I can't wait for the KS to come out

Hi to all.
So here is the latest news:

link to my blog.

http://manorhouseworkshop.com/2015/03/01/update-16-modular-underground-project/

While we wait the 3D Files for the steel molds of the basic set of sewers and underground. Let’s start with the new design of the second set underground and rooms of the castle. The second set (drawings made by Michele Bottalico) will be dedicated to the Gothic period and to the first windows with arches “Sesto Acuto” and “Everything Sesto”, both mono that mullioned windows. Creating so further dynamism and possibilities to make unique your dungeon of dream...

(work in progress)









coming soon other news.

regards. Lorenzo

Hmm, I think from a design (both aesthetic as functionality) perspective this project is pure awesomeness. I mean, it seems to be pretty mindblowing and amazing what you've made here. But all in all, the main breaking point will be the price. I wonder how you're gonna be able to suppress your costs to such an extent that the kit becomes affordable.

 Malika2 wrote:
Hmm, I think from a design (both aesthetic as functionality) perspective this project is pure awesomeness. I mean, it seems to be pretty mindblowing and amazing what you've made here. But all in all, the main breaking point will be the price. I wonder how you're gonna be able to suppress your costs to such an extent that the kit becomes affordable.

thanks, Malika2
There are two ways to reduce costs:
the first is: produce many pieces.
the second is: produce many pieces.

Joking aside. KS will have many funders, more funders we have, more we can treat the cost of both production and shipments.
therefore, we will have to create a product that interests to thousands of potential funders.
by the middle of March we will have all the quotes needed to make a suitable price to KS.
but in the meantime we'll have also showed the many possibilities of this project.

many houses are producing scenaries in plastic.
Question: in your opinion what company has quality and price acceptable?

back to news:
of course, the new dynamics walls also work with the walls in bricks.







and partly also with the new Gothic walls.

Lorenzo

If you can bring the price of each component (be it a floor or wall section) to $1 each, you'd have a real winner. The tricky thing with terrain is that it tends to be seen as a 'secondary' thing to have. Models (infantry, vehicles, etc) tend to be on people's top list, terrain is a bonus. So one might very quickly consider terrain to expensive if it means the person could for that same money buy a complete army or whatever. Also, you'd have to compete against scratchbuilding terrain.

However, the product you're making is pretty amazing, looks very high end, which means people might be more inclined to buy it instead of trying to scratchbuild it.

As for the campaign working out: just make sure you spread it far and wide. Basically all the steampunk, WWI, WWII, fantasy, medieval, 40k, dieselpunk, etc. etc. etc. communities out there.

 Malika2 wrote:
If you can bring the price of each component (be it a floor or wall section) to $1 each, you'd have a real winner. The tricky thing with terrain is that it tends to be seen as a 'secondary' thing to have. Models (infantry, vehicles, etc) tend to be on people's top list, terrain is a bonus. So one might very quickly consider terrain to expensive if it means the person could for that same money buy a complete army or whatever. Also, you'd have to compete against scratchbuilding terrain.

However, the product you're making is pretty amazing, looks very high end, which means people might be more inclined to buy it instead of trying to scratchbuild it.

As for the campaign working out: just make sure you spread it far and wide. Basically all the steampunk, WWI, WWII, fantasy, medieval, 40k, dieselpunk, etc. etc. etc. communities out there.

I agree with what you wrote.
therefore, I try to make the project irresistible. the funders will have to think about one thing: I can not live without the dungeons of Manorhouse Workshop
I am sure that if you create an interesting product and ductile even if it is an accessory can "catch" the fantasies of many funders.
moreover, we have many miniatures on the shelves gathering dust ... without a dungeons where playing...
The project, we are promoting from many months everywhere. and feedbacks are currently all positive.

Lorenzo

Hmm, keep the miniatures that are collecting dust out of the Kickstarter, unless it's for show. One of the failings of Spartan Games' attempt at terrain was that they went all over the place by also offering their archived miniatures. So stick to this terrain and expand on that.

Oh, and if you don't plan a too high workload (again the focus thing from above) it might mean you'd be able to deliver your product quickly. Delays tend to be a tricky thing...

Oh damn you, damn you to straight to Hades - I'd managed to convince myself to pass on this because I didn't think I'd be able to make your initial offering look fantasy enough...and you go and show off this new gothic theme with big chunky stone texture and everything.

I'm going to need an emergency walletectomy after this

 Malika2 wrote:
Hmm, keep the miniatures that are collecting dust out of the Kickstarter, unless it's for show. One of the failings of Spartan Games' attempt at terrain was that they went all over the place by also offering their archived miniatures. So stick to this terrain and expand on that.

Oh, and if you don't plan a too high workload (again the focus thing from above) it might mean you'd be able to deliver your product quickly. Delays tend to be a tricky thing...

sorry my english is not much good...
we do not add the miniatures. was a way of saying...
the theme will remain just everything that was built in the subsurface.

@Yodhrin.
thanks, I know it's hard ... but the stone and the stone and there you can not resist...

Amazing terrain.
1. Try to keep costs low, as you said yourself, producing many sets. Best thing is probably not to make too many options but to focus on a few really good pieces that you can sell lots of. Keep the KS simple and try to deliver within a reasonable time.
2. Plastics sometimes ends up with really "soft" detail, i.e. nowhere near as crisp and easily painted as resin. I hope you have this covered.
3. With all sculpts already in 3D, I would advice you to wait and see how GW will handle base sizes before deciding the grid size. Malifaux use 30 mm, GW is moving 40k into 32 mm - and there are rumors about Fantasy going to round bases also (perhaps 32 mm). If so, a terrain system with a 1"/25 mm grid will be outdated and hard to sell. A rescaled system with a 32 mm grid would on the other hand be perfect...

 kendoka wrote:
Amazing terrain.
1. Try to keep costs low, as you said yourself, producing many sets. Best thing is probably not to make too many options but to focus on a few really good pieces that you can sell lots of. Keep the KS simple and try to deliver within a reasonable time.
2. Plastics sometimes ends up with really "soft" detail, i.e. nowhere near as crisp and easily painted as resin. I hope you have this covered.
3. With all sculpts already in 3D, I would advice you to wait and see how GW will handle base sizes before deciding the grid size. Malifaux use 30 mm, GW is moving 40k into 32 mm - and there are rumors about Fantasy going to round bases also (perhaps 32 mm). If so, a terrain system with a 1"/25 mm grid will be outdated and hard to sell. A rescaled system with a 32 mm grid would on the other hand be perfect...

Thanks.
the drama of the dimensions of the squares displacement is constant.
the product created by us is directed to all the skirmish games on the market.
at the time almost all of the skirmish games is based on the thumb.
but nothing prevents us to set up a couple of floors with squares about from 30x30mm.
For the speech on prices: it would refer to when we have them in hand. but surely we will try to keep prices "attractive".
while for the detail of partcolari. we're working a lot.
we will try to get the maximum possible from a material as the hard plastic.

regards. Lorenzo

This terrain reminds me an awful lot of Diablo II! It looks like the procedurally-generated dungeons from the First Act in the game. Really cool project!

 grumpusbumpus wrote:
This terrain reminds me an awful lot of Diablo II! It looks like the procedurally-generated dungeons from the First Act in the game. Really cool project!

thanks.
yes, our project recreates the dark atmosphere of Diablo.
you'll see with the new Gothic walls, windows and stairs with balconies interiors...
stairs and balconies will take you higher and higher or getting lower and lower...

Lorenzo

Hi everyone
Little update on what we are working.
An image of a set of new stone walls in the Gothic style, combined with brick walls. New flooring in brick and stone, and the first hint of internal balcony and staircase to access it, the wooden floors for corridors of the upper floors.
The coloration is in work in progress … but I could not stop myself from to share with you the work already done.
In the next post we will get into detail about of the individual parts.

Stay tuned. Lorenzo

Please make an underground mine version next

 Necros wrote:
Please make an underground mine version next

We'll get to create even the mines.
and you'll be give to us the chance to create them.
Lorenzo

It looks absolutely stunning!! I think I will have to drop out of another KS so I can channel even more funds to this as I want to make a 3x3 table for Malifaux out of this stuff!

overtyrant wrote:
It looks absolutely stunning!! I think I will have to drop out of another KS so I can channel even more funds to this as I want to make a 3x3 table for Malifaux out of this stuff!

Thanks.
given the number of players of Malifaux.
probably we will create a S.G with a couple of floors with squares about 33x33mm. being our the floor 100x100 mm.

Lorenzo

That looks pretty damn good with those extra levels. I might even cave in and pledge for a table. Would be brilliant to make some Malifaux sewers/ old haunt with.

And to be honest, there is no real practical reason to include 33mm square for Malifaux in the stone tiles since they don't really benefit gameplay. Only thing that is less than usefull is the small stream in single corridors from the looks of it. That however can be solved by putting those pieces in between other tiles.

 Gertjan wrote:
That looks pretty damn good with those extra levels. I might even cave in and pledge for a table. Would be brilliant to make some Malifaux sewers/ old haunt with.

And to be honest, there is no real practical reason to include 33mm square for Malifaux in the stone tiles since they don't really benefit gameplay. Only thing that is less than usefull is the small stream in single corridors from the looks of it. That however can be solved by putting those pieces in between other tiles.

thanks. create a couple of floors with larger squares, is not a big problem for us. but as already written, if there not will be many required of this item. we will avoid them.
the channel of the sewers will be covered by various accessories that we will create specifically for it.

Lorenzo

Out of interest, will it be possible to pledge for one type of walls and a different type of floors, or failing that just the walls, or will you be doing the floors & walls on the same sprues? I'm loving the gothic walls but I prefer the first set of floor tiles you showed.

 Yodhrin wrote:
Out of interest, will it be possible to pledge for one type of walls and a different type of floors, or failing that just the walls, or will you be doing the floors & walls on the same sprues? I'm loving the gothic walls but I prefer the first set of floor tiles you showed.

each series will have its own spue which will include all the necessary pieces to create a set of underground.
each series of Gothic walls, will have 2/3 different double face floors, including the floor which is located in the series of brick walls.
but will not have the sewer, which will be only in the version with bricks.
however, depending on how will move the KS, there will also be the opportunity to purchase only the floors, which are the parts that will be used more.

Lorenzo

 Lorenzo Marchetto wrote:

the drama of the dimensions of the squares displacement is constant.
the product created by us is directed to all the skirmish games on the market.
at the time almost all of the skirmish games is based on the thumb.

Inch. Pouce (in French), which I assume must use the same word in Italian, is a thumb only in the hand. As a unit of measurement it's called an inch.

^ it's just a friendly remark, not a rebuke.

That multi-level terrain looks really sweet. I'm really looking forward to seeing you launch your campaign.

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:

 Lorenzo Marchetto wrote:

the drama of the dimensions of the squares displacement is constant.
the product created by us is directed to all the skirmish games on the market.
at the time almost all of the skirmish games is based on the thumb.

Inch. Pouce (in French), which I assume must use the same word in Italian, is a thumb only in the hand. As a unit of measurement it's called an inch.

^ it's just a friendly remark, not a rebuke.

That multi-level terrain looks really sweet. I'm really looking forward to seeing you launch your campaign.

Thanks for "Inch" (and say that I use it often as a term... My english is... ) and Thanks for your comment on new items

Lorenzo

Hi everyone.
Another little update.
We have ready the grates. completely redesigned in 3D.





Also the door has been completely redesigned.



Soon we will also have all the walls and the floors ready, to create the first sprue.

Stay connected. Lorenzo

Getting quite excited for this one. I've always wanted to do an underground Mordheim table, but the thought of casting thousands upon thousands of Hirst Arts blocks out of plaster made my eyes go crosseyed

 Yodhrin wrote:
Getting quite excited for this one. I've always wanted to do an underground Mordheim table, but the thought of casting thousands upon thousands of Hirst Arts blocks out of plaster made my eyes go crosseyed

surely will weigh much less...

@Lorenzo:
Looking forward to this one a lot!

Also wondering, how do I find out about delivery times for the first indiegogo? Mine was an odd order with a Barbican, Fortified Walls 1 x3, Tower 1 x2 and an Arengario

thanks!