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Rats, thought I was finished with Zombicide.

I have a feeling I'll be backing this one too.

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
I have eighty five.

Time for some Endurance Zombicide. Everyone keeps cycling survivors until there's nothing left. See how long you can survive.

I can't see this being a flop despite some of coolminis other projects this has licence always been solid. I can see the tiles being very popular with RPG players too. Not for me but I expect it to be good.

ced1106 wrote:

 Pacific wrote:
Out of interest, how has the producing company coped with the previous Kickstarters?

Pretty well, but I'll let someone else tell you if they're happy as an international backer, or not.

CMON's improved since the early days, but I don't like their customer service. For myself, they've resolved replacement part issues quickly, and order inquiries not at all.

If you're not in it for the SG's and in no hurry, wait for retail. Retailers are already selling S3, and not all backers have received their base game copies. BoardGameGeek has a "Hot Deals" forum, and I regularly see previous Zombicide base games and big box expansions on sale. S2 backers got Toxic Mall for $50, and I picked up a copy a few months ago for $30.

If Z4 is the same "bucket-o-miniatures", I'm in. I don't know why I do this, since I'm such a slow painter...

As an EU backer I am happy with how they have managed with every Zombicide kickstarter so far. The first kickstarter was a little rough regarding delivery speed outside of US but no complaints at all with seasons 2 and 3. In my opinion CMON customer service has moved from very poor to very good over the last few years.

ced1106 wrote:

As an EU backer I am happy with how they have managed with every Zombicide kickstarter so far. The first kickstarter was a little rough regarding delivery speed outside of US but no complaints at all with seasons 2 and 3. In my opinion CMON customer service has moved from very poor to very good over the last few years.

I pledged in Zombicide 2 and 3, bothe fulfillments were flawless!
IMO the best KS pledge fulfillment so far.

I am still waiting on the last parts of S3, but otherwise CMON KS like Relic Knights (sold) and WoK (love) have been good to me.

UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:
I can't see this being a flop despite some of coolminis other projects this has licence always been solid. I can see the tiles being very popular with RPG players too. Not for me but I expect it to be good.

Beyond sedition wars, what else was a flop?

Zombicide, rivet wars, wrath of kings, and Arcadia quest are pretty universally praised.

Relic Knights isn't their property.

Kaosball and dogs of war have solid reviews on BGG (I like kaosball, didn't get dogs) and xenoshyft is delivering right now.

Well have to see about R&B and Blood Rage, but both did fairly well in regards to funding.

Off topic, but Dogs of War is solid- it isn't CMON's usual territory of mini heavy stuff. It's a lot more heady- plotting, backstabbing, trying to outmaneuver/ out guess your opponents.

It's been shelved in my family for the time being since our cousin tends to get runaway leads in the game- not due to poor rules, just negligence on our part plotting and bickering between everyone else that he goes half the game unchecked, and steamrolls everyone in the end.

 BrookM wrote:
The Zombicide models are perfect when put alongside 40k models and the like. Best source of modern undead.

Thanks BrookM.

Was going to post the Raging Heroes lip licking meme, but of course I can't find it while looking through the TGG thread...

timd wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
The Zombicide models are perfect when put alongside 40k models and the like. Best source of modern undead.

Thanks BrookM.

Was going to post the Raging Heroes lip licking meme, but of course I can't find it while looking through the TGG thread...

Yeah, some whipping witch took down my account. But fear not..



There are other ways.

I have a few nuns, but they're all armed with guns! Why aren't my nuns unarmed? Zombicide at least has a gunless nun, even if she's with breastplate armor:



Also, let's look at the tiles again -- perfect for cities. Dwarven Forge was out of my budget, so these will do nicely!

Main problem I have with city tile sets are that they have all these small tiles that are hard to keep track of. I can just slap these down on the table and have a city area that still looks interesting.



You can also get Dogs of War pretty cheap if you wait for a holiday sale. Good to hear it's a good game.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

rox wrote:
I should instead say that despite trying to minimize my kickstarters...I still think I may jump in on this one. Even after just finishing dwarven forge and myth!

I just received Forgotten King wave 1; Zombicide 3 wave 2 should be inbound; both Journey and Kingdom Death are in print. While I probably should dial back, I just split for Conan and Blood Rage...

Knowing my tastes, there's a better chance I back 7 Sins : the Others. OTOH, if I sell Prison Outbreak, S4 might be a fun.

Kingdom Death, oh I'm looking forward to seeing my....multiple copies...of that game.

Guiltine games have now confirmed that no Zombivers in Black Plague and also posted up the first sculpt -



Spoilered due to size.

Looks cool - its just that well I have a huge pile of Zombicide stuff thats arrived - looks really great but not had a chance to even play once and I have a pile of other similar games............

Honestly, instead of zombivores the back should be for Ultra Red, or maybe even just a second, but different profile, for the same survivor

 adamsouza wrote:
Honestly, instead of zombivores the back should be for Ultra Red, or maybe even just a second, but different profile, for the same survivor

Legendary epic level heroes! Give us blinged out heroes and a good excuse to have extra miniatures.

Great after getting everything in Season 1, Season 2 and Season 3. It looks like ill be adding to the pool and getting all options with this KS also.

I dont think my wallet can support this addiction...

I haven't bought any Zombicide games yet. It's a favorite of my group when we get together, but I don't like modern settings for games... but fantasy settings...?

This one is going to be tough to avoid.

Bioptic wrote:
Hah, I wonder if they'll run into the same issue Myth did, with the "EA-patented flame above letter in logo".

I am deeply unexcited by this theme, but don't know if it will end up being mechanically different enough from the variety provided by 3 seasons worth of Zombicide to be of interest. Those card graphics suggest that it probably won't be.

I doubt that there will be in issue,..... in that case, it was the same word with the flame over the same letter (the Y),.....

New article detailing some of the changes from regular Zombicide:

http://www.trictrac.net/news/zombicide-black-plague-doth-mother-know-thou-weareth-her-brains-0

Interesting article... however, the comment that a 3+ on a d6 is 75% chance of success has me skeptical of the writer's reliability.

Also, didn't realize-- the author called it ameritrash- is this the consensus for the series? (i.e. general lack of real decision-making)

Since when is Ameritrash equivalent to a general lack of real decision making?

Thems fightin' words!

Yes the game is Ameritrash.

As of late, Ameritrash doesn't have the bad stigma it did on BGG several years back.

Anytime a new boardgame came out and was called Ameritrash people ran from it like the plague.


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pancakeonions wrote:
Since when is Ameritrash equivalent to a general lack of real decision making?

Thems fightin' words!

It's usually associated with it because Ameritrash games have a such high level of luck that a terrible/cheese tactics can be just as good as a great tactics because dice rolls, card draws hatever. Basically effective button mashing.

So it is not incorrect to label Settlers as "Ameritrash"? Because that is one crappy game that depends more on luck than 40k...

 Piston Honda wrote:

Anytime a new boardgame came out and was called Ameritrash people ran from it like the plague.

Or some of us flocked to it like it was Manna in the desert.

Ameritrash to me has always been about the bling, the piles of figures, the messy rules and piles of counters, wiping out other players, the GO BIG OR GO HOME type attitude.

Better than those old fuddy duddy Europeans with their wooden cubes and placing workers.

Getting excited for this new Zombicide. Is it still releasing at the end of May though? That's coming up pretty soon. I thought they like to spread their campaigns out a bit more.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Better than those old fuddy duddy Europeans with their wooden cubes and placing workers.

Have you looked at Robinson Crusoe? It's like the ultimate Euro game, something you play when Settlers has too much conflict and competition...

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
So it is not incorrect to label Settlers as "Ameritrash"? Because that is one crappy game that depends more on luck than 40k...

Have you ever played competitive Settlers of Catan?

once you see their strategies and play with them all the "dumb luck" you played with a group of friends doesn't work. The game goes from careless fun to cut throat.

I managed to get a whopping 4 points and was cornered very quickly. check out the WWCC that happens every year.

Didn't mean to start an ameritrash argument... put a different way, is Zombiecide a game where most "choice" is actually the illusion of such and there's an objectively best move in any given situation, so, once you've learned it decently well, it's a matter of executing the best option from the random set provided? Or, is it something where there are roughly equal styles, and play style, combos, or deeper strategy can make less overtly powerful options still desirable?

 spiralingcadaver wrote:
Didn't mean to start an ameritrash argument... put a different way, is Zombiecide a game where most "choice" is actually the illusion of such and there's an objectively best move in any given situation, so, once you've learned it decently well, it's a matter of executing the best option from the random set provided? Or, is it something where there are roughly equal styles, and play style, combos, or deeper strategy can make less overtly powerful options still desirable?

zombicide is not without tactics. It does have them, it's just not heavy on it. It's very party friendly/arcade-like. Very laid back vs some of the other cut throat games out there.

Generally the biggest strategies come down to charging into the zombie hoard or whether or not we should open the door.

If you are looking fr something on the level of chess, this is not for you.

But if you are just looking for a fun easy game you can teach someone in 15 minutes and watch your friends spend 30+ minutes deciding what character they wanna be and guess which IP they are from while drinking this game is for you. It's definitely a party game that can be enjoyed by hardcore gamers and casual gamers much like cards against humanity has been for me.

the only side note I would give is that the game heavily relies on you tailor making the equipment deck and have a quality scenario to play otherwise the game becomes too damn easy and dull.

I posted this in the news thread a few days ago forgetting that BP has its own now (EDIT ah I see the article has better pictures)

Another image from black plague showing the new minis - 5 more heroes/survivors, the necromancer and the usual walker, runner, fatty and abomination