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I quit back in 5th edition, just when they came out with sixth.

Its your decision to leave the hobby. I agree I will not support a company that would happily go against its demographic its tries to appeal too.

My friend, who is a long time player, and I quit playing and buying anything after 7th hit. The monthly tournament games, even with plenty of fair house rulings, usually ended up getting canceled due to low support.
One of the last games was a team game, and we went against one of the new Morkanaughts. I remember it doing exactly nothing all game.

Games just weren't fun and we've been waiting for things to turn. Sad to see it hasn't.

We both kept out models though. Painting and modelling is fun, plus they'd be good to use in one of the RPG games they put out for 40K.

Sunhero wrote:
You don't see me war machine threads telling every one who will listen that the game is rubbish, because I don't play the game so that would be aggressively ignorant trolling.

Actually when someone began a thread that said "Warmachine is better than 40K" I went on it and said all the many things I find wrong with that specific system.

I'd always rather play 40k 6.5 than WM/H and thats with several large WM/H armies...........that I use for other stuff since trying the game

I just don't like the expression "rage quit," it sounds like a solely emotion-driven decision that is made prematurely and without thought.

I was excited about 6th and bought the LE, played a bit and became more dissatisfied with the game as they dumped allies and superheavies more and more into the game, and then my expensive new book got invalidated in only two years time. Since then I haven't bought the 7th edition book, I kept working on my Dark Eldar (and did pick up their hardcover book to see how it stacked up to the previous book), and I've had hope that GW would go back to trying to sell a game rather than just selling miniatures. That hope does not seem to have matriculated, so I'm just not playing. Is that a rage quit? I hardly think so, I just don't want to endorse what GW is offering these days.

I still like posting on the forums because I am nonetheless interested in 40k, it doesn't cost any additional investment to keep up with what's going on, and I admit a schadenfreude curiosity in seeing GW's intended goal of switching the game to collectors with overblown budgets fail with each six-month report. The 40k universe was always one of my favorites, it's just sad to see it degrading to this point.

Forget about rage quit, why not try sensible quit?

I quit GW about 3 years ago, and by God, it's probably one of the best things I've ever done.

I'm into historicals now, but if you're into sci-fi there are so many good companies, so many good games, it's unbelievable.

And best of all, unlike GW, these companies listen to you, will give you free beta rules to playtest, and listen to their customers. And their models are just as good, if not better than GW's in some cases.

Give them a go - you won't regret it. Hell, even dakka's doing it's own sci-fi game. Check out news and rumours.

If anybody wants to rage quit space marines, I will head up a model buyback program. I'll give 2¢ on the $

I quit when 7th hit and haven't regretted it once. In fact, im much happier and play more often now.

Yeah, I quit mainline 40k. This, on top of Necron Decurion, has sapped all interest in 40k for me. At least for now. I am just going to stick to 30k for my Spess Muhreen fix pretty much for the reasons Major Stoffer outlined and some historicals . Maybe Infinity.

Historical have been mentioned a fair bit.

Excuse me Sir, I'd like to talk to you about Saga

www.grippingbeast.com

Absolutely love it, it's a well balanced Dark Ages skirmish game. Well recommended

Historicals are awesome...and there are great game systems for them, certainly cheap models compared to GW stuff. We play the Hail Caesar game.

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If anybody is rage-quitting Tyranids, I'll gladly buy any unpainted/unassembled minis at or near what GW sells them for.

stopcallingmechief wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

stopcallingmechief wrote:

Sunhero wrote:
Sweet can all the people that have quit 40k stop posting in the 40k part of the fourm that is the very definition of trolling.
Your only posts are about your dislike of the game and its just not productive.

well said. Im at the point now where im just going through the dozen eldar tears threads and ignoring everybody who is willing to quit the game over a not yet released codex. If your a quiter, i dont need or care to hear your opinions on this or any topic

Oh, my god. How hard is it to understand that people who will seriously leave the game won't do it just because of this one codex. It's a final straw type thing. When the game gets more and more unbalanced with every release while prices are as high as they are there's going to be a breaking point for people. For some people this is it.

And dismissing people's opinions on this or any topic because they stopped playing a game is frankly absurd. As if you've never quit anything in your life for some reason or other. People quit things all the time for perfectly legit reasons, it doesn't diminish their opinion in any way.

I can picture how red and upset your face must have been as you typed that out. maybe its time to go outside and catch your breath. If a person has no current knowledge of how the game is played because he hasnt played this edition, his thoughts on this edition mean nothing because he has no experience with it. Why should we listen to his opinion, what relevant facts can somebody with no practical first hand knowledge of the game, contribute to a topic on that issue? The very fact that he plays an excellant counter jinking army (which the 8,000 man bike squads everybody in fear over rely on) proves hes just jumping on the fear mongering bandwagon.

Good Bye, you and the tears will not be missed. Frankly 7th is the most fun ive had in years playing warhammer, the new eldar codex is simply another challenge to meet head on, not run away from without a single dice being rolled.

no wonder 40k is a shrinking community. Such warm inviting people. You apologists realize that many critics love the game and want a reason to go back, right?

 MWHistorian wrote:

stopcallingmechief wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

stopcallingmechief wrote:

Sunhero wrote:
Sweet can all the people that have quit 40k stop posting in the 40k part of the fourm that is the very definition of trolling.
Your only posts are about your dislike of the game and its just not productive.

well said. Im at the point now where im just going through the dozen eldar tears threads and ignoring everybody who is willing to quit the game over a not yet released codex. If your a quiter, i dont need or care to hear your opinions on this or any topic

Oh, my god. How hard is it to understand that people who will seriously leave the game won't do it just because of this one codex. It's a final straw type thing. When the game gets more and more unbalanced with every release while prices are as high as they are there's going to be a breaking point for people. For some people this is it.

And dismissing people's opinions on this or any topic because they stopped playing a game is frankly absurd. As if you've never quit anything in your life for some reason or other. People quit things all the time for perfectly legit reasons, it doesn't diminish their opinion in any way.

I can picture how red and upset your face must have been as you typed that out. maybe its time to go outside and catch your breath. If a person has no current knowledge of how the game is played because he hasnt played this edition, his thoughts on this edition mean nothing because he has no experience with it. Why should we listen to his opinion, what relevant facts can somebody with no practical first hand knowledge of the game, contribute to a topic on that issue? The very fact that he plays an excellant counter jinking army (which the 8,000 man bike squads everybody in fear over rely on) proves hes just jumping on the fear mongering bandwagon.

Good Bye, you and the tears will not be missed. Frankly 7th is the most fun ive had in years playing warhammer, the new eldar codex is simply another challenge to meet head on, not run away from without a single dice being rolled.

no wonder 40k is a shrinking community. Such warm inviting people. You apologists realize that many critics love the game and want a reason to go back, right?

What's with all these new posters coming out of the woodwork to spit venom at other members of the community?

I know. I think they're recruiting.

To the OP... I will rage quit with you... 5k of orks with new codex and cards, all models are in battlefoam.. Make me a offer.. all must go. Plus 7th Ed rulebook hard back.. Let's do this OP

I don't get why people feel the need to announce that they quit on a forum like this. What is the use? What is it to me? Threads like this always turn into a flamefest between GW haters and GW supporters, with exactly the same arguments used over and over and over again in a thousand threads. If you want to quit, just do so. No one here cares about it, and you will spare us yet another one of this kind of thread.

Now that I am here anyways I might as well add that I think it would be wise to actually wait until the codex gets released and you have played against it and seen how it is first hand. Then make the decision.
Of course, you could just continue to use older rules, so quitting because new rules suck is kinda unnecessary anyways.

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Good LORD you're angry dude. You need to relax. Seriously, I'm not trying to be condescending, but your posts are coming off as really angry, way more so than anyone in this thread about "rage quitting"!

stopcallingmechief wrote:

 Accolade wrote:

 MWHistorian wrote:

stopcallingmechief wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

stopcallingmechief wrote:

Sunhero wrote:
Sweet can all the people that have quit 40k stop posting in the 40k part of the fourm that is the very definition of trolling.
Your only posts are about your dislike of the game and its just not productive.

well said. Im at the point now where im just going through the dozen eldar tears threads and ignoring everybody who is willing to quit the game over a not yet released codex. If your a quiter, i dont need or care to hear your opinions on this or any topic

Oh, my god. How hard is it to understand that people who will seriously leave the game won't do it just because of this one codex. It's a final straw type thing. When the game gets more and more unbalanced with every release while prices are as high as they are there's going to be a breaking point for people. For some people this is it.

And dismissing people's opinions on this or any topic because they stopped playing a game is frankly absurd. As if you've never quit anything in your life for some reason or other. People quit things all the time for perfectly legit reasons, it doesn't diminish their opinion in any way.

I can picture how red and upset your face must have been as you typed that out. maybe its time to go outside and catch your breath. If a person has no current knowledge of how the game is played because he hasnt played this edition, his thoughts on this edition mean nothing because he has no experience with it. Why should we listen to his opinion, what relevant facts can somebody with no practical first hand knowledge of the game, contribute to a topic on that issue? The very fact that he plays an excellant counter jinking army (which the 8,000 man bike squads everybody in fear over rely on) proves hes just jumping on the fear mongering bandwagon.

Good Bye, you and the tears will not be missed. Frankly 7th is the most fun ive had in years playing warhammer, the new eldar codex is simply another challenge to meet head on, not run away from without a single dice being rolled.

no wonder 40k is a shrinking community. Such warm inviting people. You apologists realize that many critics love the game and want a reason to go back, right?

What's with all these new posters coming out of the woodwork to spit venom at other members of the community?

my account is over a year old, hardly new, nor is it my first account. i rarely post because unlike most people in these type of threads, i dont need positive reinforcement from a group of closed minded guys with preset opinions who enjoy ganging up on dissenters when the merely ask to play some games on the tabletop before we lynch whoever wrote the codex. The zealotry by the anti eldar crusaders is getting ridiculous around here. Half the front page of the general forum is anti eldar tears threads


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 Iron_Captain wrote:
I don't get why people feel the need to announce that they quit on a forum like this. What is the use? What is it to me? Threads like this always turn into a flamefest between GW haters and GW supporters, with exactly the same arguments used over and over and over again in a thousand threads. If you want to quit, just do so. No one here cares about it, and you will spare us yet another one of this kind of thread.

Now that I am here anyways I might as well add that I think it would be wise to actually wait until the codex gets released and you have played against it and seen how it is first hand. Then make the decision.
Of course, you could just continue to use older rules, so quitting because new rules suck is kinda unnecessary anyways.

careful you dont get burned by the flames for having an opinion contrary to the hive mind.

The irony in this post could kill a man.

I'm not really one to "rage" quit, but I'm feeling really disenchanted with the game of late.

I played two games over the weekend. The first was a 1000 point game. My opponent brought a stompa. This was a guy I hadn't met before, so there wasn't really any opportunity to set up any limits other than what the rules state ahead of time. He had a stompa, had paid for a stompa, and was going to use his stompa, in a 1000 point game. (It should be noted, that he hadn't actually painted his stompa...)

The second game was with a guy I've known for a good long while, and he's one of the weaker players I know - the type that constantly make poor decisions, ignore the mission, don't really know the rules, etc. But, he had the new necron codex and some ridiculous formation that's in it. Through this setup, he had a unit of wraiths that had their standard 2W, T5, 3++, but additionally received a 4+ reanimation save. This additional save cost them 0 extra points. This unit, alone, pretty much shrugged off any damage and destroyed anything it touched. They tanked at least 50% of my whole army's shooting every turn, and simply didn't drop.

I simply don't get it anymore.

 Iron_Captain wrote:
I don't get why people feel the need to announce that they quit on a forum like this. What is the use? What is it to me? Threads like this always turn into a flamefest between GW haters and GW supporters, with exactly the same arguments used over and over and over again in a thousand threads. If you want to quit, just do so. No one here cares about it, and you will spare us yet another one of this kind of thread.

Now that I am here anyways I might as well add that I think it would be wise to actually wait until the codex gets released and you have played against it and seen how it is first hand. Then make the decision.
Of course, you could just continue to use older rules, so quitting because new rules suck is kinda unnecessary anyways.

The fact though is that A LOT of very experienced players and dakka users are in strong agreement on the current broken nature of the new eldar units (its not just eldar - crons were pretty bad, just not this bad). When so many experienced players are feeling this way, some (i would say most) exasperated to this extent for the first time, then it strongly suggests something MUST be wrong. Many people want the game to work to at least some extent with a reasonable balance, going so far to accept limits of balance including serp spam, decurion formation, knight armies etc, but not the range that it has got to now. We want it to work due to the fluff, the modelling, the reasonably decent (apart from random) core rules etc. Discussing this is not just a way to vent but also to try and consider what, as players, we can do about it. It helps to discuss such things. For example, if you are struggling at work, do you quit without discussion or do you converse with colleagues about it first?
With experience and a moderate mathmatical ability it is easy to judge units so horrendously broken without needing to play them first.
As to your last point - I agree, we can always still play with an older rule set so there is no point in getting rid of our models. The problem is you need close friends to agree to this and not every one will. Some on here rely mainly on pick up games.

 Redbeard wrote:
I'm not really one to "rage" quit, but I'm feeling really disenchanted with the game of late.

I played two games over the weekend. The first was a 1000 point game. My opponent brought a stompa. This was a guy I hadn't met before, so there wasn't really any opportunity to set up any limits other than what the rules state ahead of time. He had a stompa, had paid for a stompa, and was going to use his stompa, in a 1000 point game. (It should be noted, that he hadn't actually painted his stompa...)

The second game was with a guy I've known for a good long while, and he's one of the weaker players I know - the type that constantly make poor decisions, ignore the mission, don't really know the rules, etc. But, he had the new necron codex and some ridiculous formation that's in it. Through this setup, he had a unit of wraiths that had their standard 2W, T5, 3++, but additionally received a 4+ reanimation save. This additional save cost them 0 extra points. This unit, alone, pretty much shrugged off any damage and destroyed anything it touched. They tanked at least 50% of my whole army's shooting every turn, and simply didn't drop.

I simply don't get it anymore.

Just out of honest curiosity, did you know that the Tomb Spyder must remain within 12" of the Wraiths to give them the Reanimation Protocols rule? (I have caught a few Necron players who've forgotten about the range limitation.)

Never shoot the Wraiths. Always aim for the Spyder. Once it's dead, those Wraiths can no longer 're-activate' their 4+ Res Protocols the following turn. I know Orks have a more troublesome time getting at backfield/bubble wrapped units, but everyone else have some pretty solid answers.

Poly Ranger wrote:

 Iron_Captain wrote:
I don't get why people feel the need to announce that they quit on a forum like this. What is the use? What is it to me? Threads like this always turn into a flamefest between GW haters and GW supporters, with exactly the same arguments used over and over and over again in a thousand threads. If you want to quit, just do so. No one here cares about it, and you will spare us yet another one of this kind of thread.

Now that I am here anyways I might as well add that I think it would be wise to actually wait until the codex gets released and you have played against it and seen how it is first hand. Then make the decision.
Of course, you could just continue to use older rules, so quitting because new rules suck is kinda unnecessary anyways.

The fact though is that A LOT of very experienced players and dakka users are in strong agreement on the current broken nature of the new eldar units (its not just eldar - crons were pretty bad, just not this bad). When so many experienced players are feeling this way, some (i would say most) exasperated to this extent for the first time, then it strongly suggests something MUST be wrong. Many people want the game to work to at least some extent with a reasonable balance, going so far to accept limits of balance including serp spam, decurion formation, knight armies etc, but not the range that it has got to now. We want it to work due to the fluff, the modelling, the reasonably decent (apart from random) core rules etc. Discussing this is not just a way to vent but also to try and consider what, as players, we can do about it. It helps to discuss such things. For example, if you are struggling at work, do you quit without discussion or do you converse with colleagues about it first?
With experience and a moderate mathmatical ability it is easy to judge units so horrendously broken without needing to play them first.
As to your last point - I agree, we can always still play with an older rule set so there is no point in getting rid of our models. The problem is you need close friends to agree to this and not every one will. Some on here rely mainly on pick up games.

Yes and no. Mathhammer is always at it's core nothing more than glorified 'Vacuumhammer'. The cries about the new Jetbikes for example, typically only ever seem to assume perfect conditions for the Eldar player.
Hell, half the cries about all the ranged Str.D Eldar now have are still bleeting on about "lolz TROOPS with ranged D = game's busted, GW sux, hurhurhur!" And yet, we know with 99% certainty from the leaks that there are no such things anymore as a Troops option with ranged D, since ALL Wraith units are now Elites, even if a Spiritseer is present.

Sure the new Wraithknight looks utterly insane right now for only 295pts, but the one big question I have yet to really see answered with 100% certainty is if he's striking in Initiative order in combat for example... If he's like the new Str.D Bloodthirster and always I1, he's not quite as scary all of a sudden if you can get a decent counter unit into him.

I'm willing to agree that on the surface, things look like they're really, really bonkers. However, I'm not going to actively judge or outright claim that these new Eldar are OP to the point of removing all player skill from the game until I've had a good few cracks at them myself.

Maybe I'm just overly optimistic as well since I don't play the game for any kind of "Tournament competitive" style games anymore, and can find opponents who don't feel the need to be donkeycaves spamming T2 IWIN lists...

Nothing wrong with that. I trust my gut and experience to judge them as they stand, whereas, you want gut, experience and gameplay to be a judge. Your opinion is more conservative, in the fact that you want to conserve judgement until you play them, whilst I believe it obvious without need to play them. You just want more evidence. That is fair enough and I respect that. The problem is that there are some users who show absolutely no respect to the views of people who already belive ther is enough evidence present.


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Btw - when I say 'gut', I'm meaning maths and also considering how games and units of a particular type (eg long range and/or fast and/or high firepower) usually play out.

I'll be honest, I'm usually pretty lenient with GW when it comes to their poor rules balancing, but the Necron and Eldar releases have me very concerned about their mindset when it comes to codex rules. I readily admit, my two main opponents are Necrons and Eldar, so I'm bearing the brunt of the recent cheese increase, amd I am somewhat shell shocked at the moment. Necrons were irritating, but their main cheese came from the Decurian detachment, without that, its just strong but not stupid. Mew Eldar, however, are loaded top to bottom as is, no detachment shenanigans needed (but they have them).

I play Space Marines and Chaos Daemons/Daemonkin. I've always tried to play my armies differently than most, my SM are tactical heavy and Daemons are infantry heavy with no Fateweaver or screamerstar nonsense. Did I win all the time? Nope, especially with my marines, but my infantry heavy daemon army was pretty effective against the 6th edition version of Eldar and Necrons, never losing a game. I've yet to play against Decurian Necrons so far, and the new Eldar scare the hell out of me because i simply don't have the firepower to quickly deal with the WK and WG before they cripple my army. I've considered getting the Aquilla Strongpoint, but the building rules are terrible and don't really expect it to survive past one turn. I've also considered an IK, but again, against Eldar, it won't last a turn. I don't really expect the new SM codex to come anywhere close to the Eldar or Necron power levels, and its still several months away. Right now, my focus is on Daemonkin, but I'm just not seeing them holding up well at all against new Eldar and Decurian Necrons.

Because of this, I've tried to get more games in at one of the FLGS in my area that doesn't have a strong Necron or Eldar presence. I've had some success there after an initial blow out defeat from an opponent who had snuck in an extra 200 points, but it sucks that I simply don't want to play against my closest friends anymore because their armies are broken. Thanks GW, thanks alot :(

 ImAGeek wrote:
I know. I think they're recruiting.

LOL!

 ImAGeek wrote:


Had I not pretty much stopped playing already I ......

Why are you here? Freedom of speech sure. But don't you have better things to do than comment about games you don't play?

 Pyeatt wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:


Had I not pretty much stopped playing already I ......

Why are you here? Freedom of speech sure. But don't you have better things to do than comment about games you don't play?

Maybe he is still interested in 40k and wants to see the problems with the game fixed? I haven't played 40k in months but I'm still interested in it.

Nah, he just stopped by for a good old GW bashing. He's not the only one on the thread, either

Ah, okay, so any criticism of what GW does is only done in the name of bashing GW f. Good to know.