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No space wolves?
Interesting...
   
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These are just examples of how you could paint the Marine miniatures in the Vedros box

Edit: Ninja'ed by Fenrir Kitsune

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Neronoxx wrote:
No space wolves?
Interesting...




What they show are marines that can be painted from the paint set. And that includes no grey colours at all.
   
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NoggintheNog wrote:
Neronoxx wrote:
No space wolves?
Interesting...




What they show are marines that can be painted from the paint set. And that includes no grey colours at all.


Technically, modern 40k space wolves are blue-grey. But still, you can paint all the founding loyalist legions except for one. That's definitely odd.

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I actually really like that stat block. I've been playing simple rules people put online for free after using them for their DIY convention games (whether it's ancient battles, WW2 games, sci-fi, whatever) and they are often this simple and straight forward. If you play to see what happens then rules like this can work really well.


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After Kirby has been bragging about how taking direct control over distribution was the best thing GW ever did, it's amazing to see a giant list of independent sales and marketing people all with a traditional sales territory by region break down. I never thought I'd see GW open up their sales to independent contractors in a traditional sales model.


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I wonder how that's going to work out for them. Stores that have tons and tons of stuff might just put everything they sell on their website as there are too many manufacturers selling stuff and then if a distributor or GW calls them up and says "you can't sell our stuff online" and then what? The toy store already has tons of products and options and doesn't need GW the way a game store might need Magic: the Gathering.

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It's really not hard to see why they picked those Marine colours as examples. Anyone suggesting it's odd you can't paint SW with the colours in the paint set isn't looking too carefully. No grey/blue, no space puppies! It's not an omission, it's a selection to fit the paints they're selling you.


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It's a bit weird though that the Blood angel is apparently in a different art style than all the other chapters.

And it's hilarious to see that Gorkamorka era trakk/buggy being featured in a new release in the year 2016!

   
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 JohnnyHell wrote:
It's really not hard to see why they picked those Marine colours as examples. Anyone suggesting it's odd you can't paint SW with the colours in the paint set isn't looking too carefully. No grey/blue, no space puppies! It's not an omission, it's a selection to fit the paints they're selling you.



Though of course adding 1 more paint wouldn't have been THAT hard.

Not that it really matters.

Oh and another reason: Wolves tend to look bit different to others due to extra bits. That might be also one factor.

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Neronoxx wrote:
No space wolves?
Interesting...


Clearly it's a little sneak peak at what's to come soon. That page shows loyal, intact chapters.

In the coming fluff advancement, the DA will destroy Fenris and cripple the SW. This drives the SW away from the Imperium (although not 100% into the clutches of Chaos either), and they become a ragtag, fleet-based marauding force. As more of a "neutral" force, they cease being loyal dogs and more "lone wolves," like their chapter name has suggested all along. And their new raiding, marauding nature fits the Viking motif better. Expect to see their ally table significantly changed, with Imperial forces becoming less favored, and "bad guy" forces a little more favored across the board.

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Except the picture shown wasn't fenris.
   
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 gorgon wrote:
Neronoxx wrote:
No space wolves?
Interesting...


Clearly it's a little sneak peak at what's to come soon. That page shows loyal, intact chapters.

In the coming fluff advancement, the DA will destroy Fenris and cripple the SW. This drives the SW away from the Imperium (although not 100% into the clutches of Chaos either), and they become a ragtag, fleet-based marauding force. As more of a "neutral" force, they cease being loyal dogs and more "lone wolves," like their chapter name has suggested all along. And their new raiding, marauding nature fits the Viking motif better. Expect to see their ally table significantly changed, with Imperial forces becoming less favored, and "bad guy" forces a little more favored across the board.


I hate space wolves but that sounds awesome

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Then you may want to educate yourself on the subject, those steel molds are only having soft plastic put through them.

Depends on if they are steel tools. Often steel is not milled when there is a definite end-of-life, as it's much cheaper to use, well, cheaper metals, for tools.


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Looks like the much-feared Age of Sigmarification of 40k has begun. Good.

That stat block makes me want to play 40k again, like Age of Sigmar did to reinvigorate my interest in Warhammer.

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I like this from the retailer terms and conditions:

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As compared to what? Some might consider some of GW's products "obscene or inappropriate for customers under 18".... So, don't sell these products in stores that sell other GW products?

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 agnosto wrote:
I like this from the retailer terms and conditions:

The BV Products should not be displayed in stores where other products deemed obscene or
inappropriate for customers under 18 years of age are displayed or sold.


As compared to what? Some might consider some of GW's products "obscene or inappropriate for customers under 18".... So, don't sell these products in stores that sell other GW products?


I don't think I've ever seen anything I'd consider "obscene" in a hobby shop, unless they have some very obscure statuettes for whatever reason. I wonder what they're trying to refer to?


 gorgon wrote:
Neronoxx wrote:
No space wolves?
Interesting...


Clearly it's a little sneak peak at what's to come soon. That page shows loyal, intact chapters.

In the coming fluff advancement, the DA will destroy Fenris and cripple the SW. This drives the SW away from the Imperium (although not 100% into the clutches of Chaos either), and they become a ragtag, fleet-based marauding force. As more of a "neutral" force, they cease being loyal dogs and more "lone wolves," like their chapter name has suggested all along. And their new raiding, marauding nature fits the Viking motif better. Expect to see their ally table significantly changed, with Imperial forces becoming less favored, and "bad guy" forces a little more favored across the board.

That actually sounds like a lot of fun.

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 agnosto wrote:
I like this from the retailer terms and conditions:

The BV Products should not be displayed in stores where other products deemed obscene or
inappropriate for customers under 18 years of age are displayed or sold.


As compared to what? Some might consider some of GW's products "obscene or inappropriate for customers under 18".... So, don't sell these products in stores that sell other GW products?


I don't think I've ever seen anything I'd consider "obscene" in a hobby shop, unless they have some very obscure statuettes for whatever reason. I wonder what they're trying to refer to?

Totally depends on what you're considering "obscene", but I've definitely seen some stuff at a comic shop that sells GW stuff which I would put under "inappropriate for customers under 18".
   
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Actually, its not only SW missing from the "chapters of the space marines".
There are no Ultramarines

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Looks like the much-feared Age of Sigmarification of 40k has begun.


Ah someone who doesn't know what is going on or is trying to make a bad joke.

Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.

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 Kanluwen wrote:

Totally depends on what you're considering "obscene", but I've definitely seen some stuff at a comic shop that sells GW stuff which I would put under "inappropriate for customers under 18".



I agree; I personally would consider a great amount of GW's products to be PG13 and the setting in general to be that way but not all people would share my view. What yardstick will GW use to determine if a stockist is compliant with this condition?

Most likely this is just legal garbage thrown into T&Cs for some obscure (to me) reason.

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That paint set is fairly cost effective.

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I think I want to get some of those Wartrakks so I can take their treads to attach to my Hunter cannons to make Thunderfire Cannons. 100% GW parts, 0% Finecast!

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 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I think I want to get some of those Wartrakks so I can take their treads to attach to my Hunter cannons to make Thunderfire Cannons. 100% GW parts, 0% Finecast!


The tracks are the best thing in that kit. I've used them for a variety of conversions over the years.
   
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 DarknessEternal wrote:
That paint set is fairly cost effective.

Agreed.
I wonder do you get full size containers?


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Davor wrote:
 judgedoug wrote:


Looks like the much-feared Age of Sigmarification of 40k has begun.


Ah someone who doesn't know what is going on or is trying to make a bad joke.


Based on what my buddies who play 40k's current edition say, AoS-ification may not be a bad thing.

Back on topic, the base set is going to be a really good value esp. if you're building an ork force.

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 privateer4hire wrote:
 DarknessEternal wrote:
That paint set is fairly cost effective.

Agreed.
I wonder do you get full size containers?


They're like a half or a third of the paint of a normal paint pot. Like 4 ml or something.

   
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 gorgon wrote:
That page shows loyal, intact chapters.

It also shows Dark Angels though
   
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I didn't see anyone mention this before:

Ork boyz are 4 to a box
Space Marines are 3 to a box

Also there a functioning link to a Storefinder

My two local gaming shops are both carrying it, so looks like I'm in for at least a starter.


   
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This is excellent! I won't be buying it but the way GW is approaching it and distributing it seems like a good thing! More retailers and getting more kids into the hobby would be excellent.

I'm interested if Michaels or somewhere like that will pick it up. If it goes into big stores I hope it'll be successful!

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 adamsouza wrote:
Also there a functioning link to a Storefinder

That's just their normal Store Finder, the same as the one on the main Games Workshop website. I don't believe it indicates which stores will be carrying the Vedros kits.

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