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How will this work if you already have a subscription on the app I wonder?

 Kriswall wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Kriswall wrote:
I'm actually a little disappointed. My favorite part of White Dwark Weekly is the inevitable painting tutorial. If White Dwarf goes back to a monthly version, I'm likely to see my 4 potential tutorials per month drop back down to 1. This makes me sad. Given that the price per issue will go up, I'll be paying more per tutorial and having fewer available per year.

This is very bad news for people who bought White Dwarf mainly for the painting tutorials.

I'd rather have one painting tutorial that actually tries to teach us new techniques than four painting tutorials that amount to instructions to layer on whatever colours the studio used.

I appreciate that. But... I'm colorblind. I'd much rather have simple tutorials that show me how to get the colors right for a wide variety of common things (rusty armor, shiny armor, red cloaks, blue cloaks, etc). I already know all the basics and YouTube is better at teaching advanced techniques than a magazine article.

That's a shame and I'm sure it's a pain in the backside, but they're not producing advanced tutorials on youtube either(indeed, they're pretty much just the studio person following the basic painting guide), and they already offer simple tutorials in the "how to paint X" books/pamphlets. They weren't duplicating that style of tutorial in WDWeekly to serve the needs of colourblind gamers, they were doing it because it required less effort and time than doing proper in-depth tutorials or articles about executing specific intermediate and advanced techniques & styles.

alphaecho wrote:


I've just phoned up to enquire about the new subscription.


I was informed that what they believe is going to happen is that, as an existing Visions subscriber (for the sum of £3.00 per issue as a hangover from my original monthly WD sub), I will automatically receive the new monthly WD.

However, they have my details and will get back to me.

Make of that what you will, but it is possible that the new version will replace WD weekly and Visions.

Obviously opinions vary but I will miss Visions to some extent, especially after the size upgrade, as sometimes you can get fed up looking at screens. That and I wasn't paying £7.50 per issue.

Perhaps someone at GW has finally succeeded in growing that single braincell they've been after for so long and it's occurred to them that big batches of pretty pictures are ideal for putting on a website rather than padding out a magazine?

This could be nice move. Obviously depends on what content they make but this could be good.

One thing important for me is do they sell them on regular news stands like before they went to weekly? I don't have FLGS nearby and like I will order one measly magazine so if I can't find on local news stand there goes impulse purchaces that were mostly my source of WD purchaces(contents looked interesting so pick it up). Lot less likely to do that if I need to order...I don't order miniatures every month so can't really tag it along those either.

But at news stand if content is good I'll be buying them.

Does Warhammer Visions actually sell well in retailers? I stopped buying White Dwarf like 4 years ago, never bought Visions and when I see an issue of Visions on the shelves in WH Smiths or Tesco's, it always seems to be a month or two out of date. Gives me the impression that it doesn't sell, and the retailer doesn't bother to restock with the current month's issue because the last couple of months still haven't sold.

WH Visions sells unexpected well.....

RazorEdge wrote:
WH Visions sells unexpected well.....

Quite like WH Visions so would be a shame if it went now. Although it's possible to get good photos of paintjobs and conversions on this site and elsewhere online I think it's quite handy having a hard copy of decently painted and converted models as inspiration that can be quickly looked up while painting!

Are we going to go back to the early 2000's where people will whine and complain about how 1/3 of the book is Lord of the Rings? I loved those articles on LotR. I hope they bring that much content back for LotR and the great articles as well.

I don't want to feel like I am paying for advertisement, where GW should be paying for advertisement, not us. I will hold off and wait and see. I want to buy a magazine on the hobby, not an advertisement about the products.

The SBG doesn't need official white dwarf coverage tbh. Fans are putting out fanzines like SBG (Great British Hobbit League) with far better content than anything GW does these days.

Just look at the latest issue of SBG with the Dol Guldur battle report.

I'm going to get a subscription, this is very welcome news. I have to say I like visions but more as a coffee table magazine than for reading. It's sometimes nice to just see page after page of well painted and converted models for inspiration and without having to hunt through various project threads on the internet

I like what Im reading here.

Hopefully they dont stress out as many releases per month, and manage to squeeze in a few odd pages not directly trying to sell me something, like Vetocks nostalgic musings (is he still in "Visions" these days?).

I like it. In the US it is $6.66 an issue @ the pre-order price.

 Stormphoenix wrote:
How will this work if you already have a subscription on the app I wonder?

Just got an email. It seems like with the return to a monthly White Dwarf you'll need a new app.

Yeah, just saw the email myself. I'm sure this will make some people happy -- I'll miss the constant "what's in next week's WD" though, LOL.

Davor wrote:
Are we going to go back to the early 2000's where people will whine and complain about how 1/3 of the book is Lord of the Rings?

Of course they will.

I loved those articles on LotR. I hope they bring that much content back for LotR and the great articles as well.
I don't want to feel like I am paying for advertisement, where GW should be paying for advertisement, not us. I will hold off and wait and see. I want to buy a magazine on the hobby, not an advertisement about the products.

It's still going to be White Dwarf. It's essentially been advertainment since at least 1988.

Whoop whoop, freaking delighted over this. Hope the guy who made the mess of the magazines has moved on to pastures new.......

One thing I would love to see come back are art work covers not photo shopped snaps. But one stage at a time. Hopefully see white dwarf back in the newsies and super markets soon!

For me it just shows that they are trying new things and aren't afraid to fail. For me that is a great sign of a good company.

At least they are trying to progress!!!

 Lt. Donomar StubbornBull wrote:

RazorEdge wrote:
WH Visions sells unexpected well.....

Quite like WH Visions so would be a shame if it went now. Although it's possible to get good photos of paintjobs and conversions on this site and elsewhere online I think it's quite handy having a hard copy of decently painted and converted models as inspiration that can be quickly looked up while painting!

i'm a big fan of Visions, too
there are a ton of pics in there that i haven't stumbled across on the Net...
not only that, but it is nice to have digital mags that i can look at for inspiration when internet (or even electricity!!!) isn't available...
it's a godsend in the 3rd World, where the monsoon lightning takes out power or internet, or people straight up steal power lines

@Yodhrin: some of us find all of the pretty pictures to be ab excellent showcase, rather than padding

i don't mind the change...
i'll still continue to get every issue, just as i have since issue #75 back in the 80's...
White Dwarf release, or Visions the last couple of years, is one of the days i look forward to the most, and has been for decades...
it gets me all fired up to paint!!!

cheers
jah

I'm only going to buy this new version if they return to proper battle reports, which aren't just random photos and a poorly written narrative. I want maps and schematics and hard facts.

It's inconsequential to me if the outcome has been manipulated to produce specific results, because we all know they've always been doing that. As long as the results are credible and realistic, I won't mind.

 Zingraff wrote:
I'm only going to buy this new version if they return to proper battle reports, which aren't just random photos and a poorly written narrative. I want maps and schematics and hard facts.

It's inconsequential to me if the outcome has been manipulated to produce specific results, because we all know they've always been doing that. As long as the results are credible and realistic, I won't mind.

that would be nice...
i don't play, but always enjoyed the detailed battle reports...
when i go back through my collection, that is the most common section i end up reading...
some of them were just glorious, like the Squat Land Train in action for Epic!!!

good times

cheers
jah

If they drop a dataslate for whatever is released that month in it that would be great.

If they tossed a new formation dataslate, or a terrain making article, in it each month that alone could justify it's purchase.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
The SBG doesn't need official white dwarf coverage tbh. Fans are putting out fanzines like SBG (Great British Hobbit League) with far better content than anything GW does these days.

Just look at the latest issue of SBG with the Dol Guldur battle report.

What is this SBG and where can I find it ?

 adamsouza wrote:

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
The SBG doesn't need official white dwarf coverage tbh. Fans are putting out fanzines like SBG (Great British Hobbit League) with far better content than anything GW does these days.

Just look at the latest issue of SBG with the Dol Guldur battle report.

What is this SBG and where can I find it ?

Available HERE.

Great stuff!

I'm in.

This is unambiguously good WD couldn't possibly be much worse than it is now. I have to check myself before I get my hopes up that it's back to the golden age of the late 80's early 90's here... I notice they're not promising any new rules, but if there's a regular faq element again that would be fantastic!

 adamsouza wrote:
If they drop a dataslate for whatever is released that month in it that would be great.

If they tossed a new formation dataslate, or a terrain making article, in it each month that alone could justify it's purchase.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
The SBG doesn't need official white dwarf coverage tbh. Fans are putting out fanzines like SBG (Great British Hobbit League) with far better content than anything GW does these days.

Just look at the latest issue of SBG with the Dol Guldur battle report.

What is this SBG and where can I find it ?

http://www.one-ring.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=29569&sid=3d13c51c80a4f87ae5d3e36529814628

@Ghaz, we're talking about a fan magazine, not the game's rulebook.

Now all they gotta do is start offering a free model box (squad or small vehicle) for starting a subscription like they used to do.

 Yodhrin wrote:
Well, let the hat banquet commence, pass the HP sauce eh

Seriously though, this is potentially great stuff providing they can tone down the overconfidently triumphalist tone so much of the studio output has these days - by all means enumerate the virtues of the product, but do it honestly and with a touch of humility rather than all this Best Miniatures In The World(tm)/Ferrari Of Miniatures guff - their products are almost always good enough to stand on their own merits, and usually good enough that only minor persuasion is required to get us to overlook the grotesque pricing, so drop the hard-sell and focus on solid content with a bit of self-awareness.

IE, they should probably clone Fat Bloke.

This so much. You just said it way better then I can ever cool. It was "much more gooder"

Do they start at one again? or continue the previous or current White Dwarf numbering?

 Jehan-reznor wrote:
Do they start at one again? or continue the previous or current White Dwarf numbering?

Good question

Gonna get a subscription, first subscription to White Dwarf ever :-)

 Kriswall wrote:
I'm actually a little disappointed. My favorite part of White Dwark Weekly is the inevitable painting tutorial. If White Dwarf goes back to a monthly version, I'm likely to see my 4 potential tutorials per month drop back down to 1. This makes me sad. Given that the price per issue will go up, I'll be paying more per tutorial and having fewer available per year.

This is very bad news for people who bought White Dwarf mainly for the painting tutorials.

GW are doing more online stuff for painting now, aren't they?