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pm713 wrote:
 Backspacehacker wrote:
Depends, metal legion of the damned were the same price as the finecrap models.

Which doesn't have any impact on what Pouncey said because Finecast isn't plastic.


Yes true, but it goes to show it dont matter what its made out of, GW will still charge you what you are willing to pay.

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 Backspacehacker wrote:
pm713 wrote:
 Backspacehacker wrote:
Depends, metal legion of the damned were the same price as the finecrap models.

Which doesn't have any impact on what Pouncey said because Finecast isn't plastic.


Yes true, but it goes to show it dont matter what its made out of, GW will still charge you what you are willing to pay.

Which won't be the same price.

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pm713 wrote:
 Backspacehacker wrote:
pm713 wrote:
 Backspacehacker wrote:
Depends, metal legion of the damned were the same price as the finecrap models.

Which doesn't have any impact on what Pouncey said because Finecast isn't plastic.


Yes true, but it goes to show it dont matter what its made out of, GW will still charge you what you are willing to pay.

Which won't be the same price.


we are assuming it wont be the same, going off of what we have seen, GW can change whats its made out of, and still charge the same price. Hell they are swapping out some of their old fine cast with plastic, and they are still the same price.

GW is going to charge what ever you are willing to pay, because no matter what the production cost is very small so they dont really care. -

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If they released a ridiculously overpriced $120 kit (costing more than twice as much as ten cadians including two flamers and one sergeant) for ten sisters, plastic minis with bitz and poses and such... it'd still be a better deal than what we currently have.

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 Melissia wrote:
If they released a ridiculously overpriced $120 kit (costing more than twice as much as ten cadians including two flamers and one sergeant) for ten sisters, plastic minis with bitz and poses and such... it'd still be a better deal than what we currently have.


Something is better then nothing i suppose.

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 godardc wrote:
Did someone buy some of the russian sister yet ?

Yes, but I am still not sure if they ship outside of Russia. Plenty of people ordered (and received miniatures) from them, but all of those were in Russia afaik. I don't know if they've had or fulfilled any non-Russian orders.

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 Pouncey wrote:
nareik wrote:
I'm not sure where people are getting that plastic sisters would be any cheaper than the current ones. You can't assume GW will make a price break just because they change medium.


Except plastic models made by GW have always been cheaper than the metal equivalents.
Not always. Plenty of metals have been replaced by plastics of close (or greater) prices. The days of getting 3 times as many plastic than metal for your money are over.
   
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The plastic character clam packs torpedo the "plastic is always cheaper" argument before it clears the harbor.

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So how much would they cost them then, in your mind, Nareik?

140 USD? If it included a heavy weapons model and special weapons model, that'd still be less than we currently pay.

150 USD? If we had bitz, like in most plastic kits, we'd still basically be getting more than we currently are.

165? Now we're getting in to the realm of ridiculousness, as that's the price an entire Start Collecting pack which includes 10 tacticals, 1 dread, and 1 termie captain. I would honestly be surprised if GW did that for just a basic troops choice and a bare minimum infantry squad, but even if they did, that still wouldn't be much more than we'd pay if it included options for both heavy and special weapons.

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Halandri

I'm not saying they will necessarily be more expensive, but rather manage your expectations on how cheap they will end up being.

GW prices things on how well they think they'll sell. For ranges they think only a few dedicated fans will want they charge a premium (i.e. Sisters).

Regardless of price, plastic is an exciting material for anyone who wants to personalise their models a bit more (a common complaint of the current Sisters range being static/similar poses).
   
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You're kind of missing the point. Sisters are currently by far the most expensive army to collect for, barring a few very niche alternatives.

It's not like people hare are suggesting that Sisters will be as cheap as Cadians, at 57 USD. Only that they'll be cheaper than they are now-- at about 145 USD (or ~150 with a heavy weapon). And since all Sisters infantry save for Seraphim use the same models, people are going to be buying a lot of them for any particular sisters army.

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10 Sisters = £49.70 on GW site right now

I don't see 5 plastic Sisters for £30 being beyond the realm of possibility.

They'll almost certainly build two unit types, but I don't see it being ridiculously unlikely.

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I feel like two arguments are being made repeatedly: 1. There is not enough demand 2. Yes there is, at least from me.

I would like to propose an alternate theory: GW is a business only in the sense that they sell products you're allowed to buy. They do not care one bit what you want, or what the demand is for anything.

Since the sister's rolled out in the 1990s, I have watched as GW has abandoned their most popular ip concepts, like chaos space marines, to utter stagnation. They've made complex plastic kits for things that were only out for a month and abandoned them. They've made staggering volumes of plastic terrain, from wrecked rhinos to no less than four "arcane fulcrums" that gather dust in my local shop.

I just don't think they're as concerned with what customers want as we think. They just make what ever they think is cool, and we agree with them frequently enough that they stay in business. (Albeit, with steadily falling revenues of core product in a time when vastly inflated amounts of core products are being produced)
   
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Honestly they'll probably cost the same as Tempestus scions if not a few dollars more due to being more elite.

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 TheCustomLime wrote:
Honestly they'll probably cost the same as Tempestus scions if not a few dollars more due to being more elite.
So fifty quid for ten, which is where they stand now.
   
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Sisters in plastic should be along the lines of the Space Marines for pricing.

Troops = Tactical Box
Seraphim = Assault Squad
Heavy Squad = Devastators

Otherwise Bewbs make power armor more expensive for some reason.

   
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Sisters are an elite force and not a huge seller so they'll probably get one multi-use plastic kit for a lot of their units at the $7-8ppm price.

Then they would get a huge, stupid and overblown version of St. Celestine for $100+ and a $30 cannoness clam pack. And maybe their own flyer.

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Are Sisters of Silence ever going to be a thing? I'd like for them to be. Release plastic sisters of silence as a supplement after the sisters of battle release haha

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Halandri

 KingCorpus wrote:
Are Sisters of Silence ever going to be a thing? I'd like for them to be. Release plastic sisters of silence as a supplement after the sisters of battle release haha
I read Forgeworld are probably working on them.
   
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nareik wrote:
 KingCorpus wrote:
Are Sisters of Silence ever going to be a thing? I'd like for them to be. Release plastic sisters of silence as a supplement after the sisters of battle release haha
I read Forgeworld are probably working on them.


Oh forgeworld. If thats true, ill be happy

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 KingCorpus wrote:
nareik wrote:
 KingCorpus wrote:
Are Sisters of Silence ever going to be a thing? I'd like for them to be. Release plastic sisters of silence as a supplement after the sisters of battle release haha
I read Forgeworld are probably working on them.


Oh forgeworld. If thats true, ill be happy

Pretty sure it's 30k only if that makes any difference.

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The rumor is they will be included in the next 30K based box game, with plastic models. If this follows how BoC was handled, 40K rules in a White Dwarf would follow.

   
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Do we have anything on when said box is?

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Oh man, idc. I just think Sisters of Silence are cool as hell!

They can take my money if thats true

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 TheCustomLime wrote:
Honestly they'll probably cost the same as Tempestus scions if not a few dollars more due to being more elite.


More elite than Space Marines?


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nareik wrote:
 KingCorpus wrote:
Are Sisters of Silence ever going to be a thing? I'd like for them to be. Release plastic sisters of silence as a supplement after the sisters of battle release haha
I read Forgeworld are probably working on them.


So, that's a "no" on plastic Sisters?

Because Forge World does resin models, not plastic ones.

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pm713 wrote:
Do we have anything on when said box is?


I can't find what thread it was mentioned in now, but I believe it was supposed to be fall of this year. To be honest the Plastic Sisters of Silence mention is what got this latest round of calling for plastic Sisters of Battle started.

This thread is similar to this one, and predates it by about a week http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/699271.page

In the Deathwatch Rumors Thread, 30K Prospero Box game with Sisters of Silence get's mentioned
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/810/696920.page#8816361



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 Pouncey wrote:
 TheCustomLime wrote:
Honestly they'll probably cost the same as Tempestus scions if not a few dollars more due to being more elite.


More elite than Space Marines?

.


No. More Elite than Stormtroopers. If there was any faction to gauge how they would release plastic sisters Stormtroopers would it.

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 TheCustomLime wrote:
 Pouncey wrote:
 TheCustomLime wrote:
Honestly they'll probably cost the same as Tempestus scions if not a few dollars more due to being more elite.


More elite than Space Marines?

.


No. More Elite than Stormtroopers. If there was any faction to gauge how they would release plastic sisters Stormtroopers would it.


Then shouldn't an average Space Marine squad be crazily expensive compared to almost everything else?
   
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No.

GW pricing is as much based on expected unit sales as anything. The argument is that a plastic Sisters kit would be expensive because there's probably not enough potential demand to justify the lower price that Marines can and still turn a profit.

Really, the only people that are convinced that Sisters would sell in huge numbers are Sisters players, who aren't generally viewing the situation objectively.

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 Azreal13 wrote:
No.

GW pricing is as much based on expected unit sales as anything. The argument is that a plastic Sisters kit would be expensive because there's probably not enough potential demand to justify the lower price that Marines can and still turn a profit.

Really, the only people that are convinced that Sisters would sell in huge numbers are Sisters players, who aren't generally viewing the situation objectively.


This. Space Marines are popular and thus command lower prices. Hoping your faction will receive the same treatment as GW's golden boys is the first step on the road to disappointment.

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The Empire : ~60-70 models.
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