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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/01/31 19:13:29
Subject: Re:5th Ed Rumors: Round 4
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Raging-on-the-Inside Blood Angel Sergeant
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I don't think you can count the new Chaos Space Marines (Renegades) as an official chaos codex. The Ultramarines are more chaotic at this point.  If the Legion books are released, than 5th will be VERY marine centric. Who knows, they might even wedge marines into the IG book.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/01/31 19:21:16
Subject: 5th Ed Rumors: Round 4
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Do NOT give them ideas.
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Be Joe Cool. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/01/31 19:25:43
Subject: 5th Ed Rumors: Round 4
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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Maybe as Grey knights to get rid of that pesky non-model selling codex they have now...
Greets
Schepp himself
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40k:
Fantasy: Skaven, Vampires |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/01/31 19:57:36
Subject: 5th Ed Rumors: Round 4
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Asmodai wrote:I think the current book is released with at least the basics of 5th edition in mind, so it will count as Eldar's 5th ed. Codex.
Guard, Necrons, Space Wolves, and Dark Eldar are all in much more pressing need of editing.
What armies need updates from a rules perspective, and what armies get updates from a sales perspective are 2 entirely different things, with sales dictating which armies actually get their updates. Fairness has nothing to do with anything, only sales.
So while I agree that it is likely that Eldar could get by with their current Codex, the sales dictates that the Eldar are more likely to get an updated Codex or a Biel-Tan Codex before Dark Eldar.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/01/31 20:15:11
Subject: 5th Ed Rumors: Round 4
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Secretive Dark Angels Veteran
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Except that, you know, Dark Eldar are already mostly done. The sculpts are largely finished (there's been pics of the new jetbike) and GW has publicly noted they'll be out soon~ish.
GW just sold a whole pile of Eldar to the people who are interested in them (I spent about $500 on an Eldar army this year). Those people won't be buying much if a new Eldar Codex comes out next year. They might buy a Space Wolf or Dark Eldar army though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/01/31 20:19:14
Subject: 5th Ed Rumors: Round 4
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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Right, even though the jetbike was rather undarky looking, it had been said the parts would be interchangeable. But I don't give much about those roumors. End of the year maybe? Planetstrike -> new Eldar models?
New Edition -> new Space Marines and/or new Orks (there's stuff for the second wave...)
Stuff like that.
Greets
Schepp himself
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40k:
Fantasy: Skaven, Vampires |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/01/31 20:31:35
Subject: 5th Ed Rumors: Round 4
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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I've seen pics of a new Eldar Jetbike, but not a Dark Eldar Jetbike. So the Eldar are going to be in good shape. GW hasn't released any Dark Eldar teaser pics that I'm aware of, no "leaked" any preview Codices to the Web. So as far as I'm concerned, the Dark Eldar are still dead in the water. Which represents no change from 2004-2005, when they were moved from the active line to "Classic / Collectors".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/01/31 20:35:10
Subject: 5th Ed Rumors: Round 4
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Long-Range Land Speeder Pilot
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Aren't you talking about the Eldar jetbike that as next to the Reaver Titan? I thought that was from Forgeworl. Please point me right if I'm wrong.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/01/31 20:45:32
Subject: 5th Ed Rumors: Round 4
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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Wasn't it a Jes scoulpt? Since when does he do FW work?
Greets
Schepp himself
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40k:
Fantasy: Skaven, Vampires |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/01 00:55:13
Subject: Re:5th Ed Rumors: Round 4
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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Hi !
About the new rules concerning vehicles, as I can't get the mighty pdf file, could you confirm some points :
Skimmer moving 7-18'' get 5+ save, as tanks in smoke.
Protecting the vehicle behind a crest vill receive 5+ or 4+
and what about, let's say... woods?
How will work ordnance shots at a tank, in terms of penetrating and damage rolls ?
EDIT :OK managed to get the PDF finally.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/08 04:39:02
Subject: 5th Ed Rumors: Round 4
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Fireknife Shas'el
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Just saw this. Sounds pretty cool.
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2009, Year of the Dog
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/15 05:17:23
Subject: Re:5th Ed Rumors: Round 4
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Somebody's gonna give me crap for this, but I'm OK with it. What's the latest rumor on when 5ed is due out? And does anyone have a reliable source for the 5 ed pdf, every one I keep trying doesn't want ot play ball. And torrents seem to take forever over satellite net connections. Email would be nice, but hey...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/15 06:28:15
Subject: 5th Ed Rumors: Round 4
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Devious Space Marine dedicated to Tzeentch
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Last I heard 5th Ed was due in July...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/03/02 13:18:53
Subject: 5th Ed Rumors: Round 4
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Fireknife Shas'el
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According to this thread it's out in June.
Like the replies in the thread say, GW may have wisened up and realized people would spend more money if you did the major releases right after summer starts. For the kids' sake.
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2009, Year of the Dog
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/03/02 18:14:48
Subject: 5th Ed Rumors: Round 4
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[MOD]
Head of Southern Hemisphere Distribution
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Conventional marketing wisdom is that the summer is a bad time to launch new game stuff because a lot of customers are doing exams and going on holiday.
You tend to see a dip in releases in June-August and a boost in September.
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Well! This is a most unexpected turn of events! For, is it the fifth time, now?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/03/03 17:56:50
Subject: Re:5th Ed Rumors: Round 4
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[DCM]
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Voodoo Boyz said at the 1st page
There is also a 'deployment' chart which I will put on in the morning (too tired) if someone else hasn't done it already.
But I couldn't find it. Can somebody please tell me more about the new deployment rules?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/03/03 18:04:15
Subject: 5th Ed Rumors: Round 4
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Dakka Veteran
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Kilkrazy wrote:Conventional marketing wisdom is that the summer is a bad time to launch new game stuff because a lot of customers are doing exams and going on holiday.
You tend to see a dip in releases in June-August and a boost in September.
In the US summer = no school for most areas, so a June release here would be a good marketing strategy for them to have time to work on new models/play, although they usually try to do both sides of the ocean at once don't they?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/03/03 18:43:02
Subject: 5th Ed Rumors: Round 4
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[MOD]
Head of Southern Hemisphere Distribution
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I think they will do a simultaneous release because people moan such a lot otherwise.
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Well! This is a most unexpected turn of events! For, is it the fifth time, now?
"In case you ever read this, here is how the whole thing works: before civilisation, the weak and old and disabled were left out at night to feed the wolves. Civilisation basically means giving natural selection a kick in the nuts. Work out the details for yourself."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/03/04 00:32:15
Subject: 5th Ed Rumors: Round 4
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Crazed Cultist of Khorne
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Does anyone know whats up with rending. ive heard different people saying it will stya the same, and other saying it will be a rollo f six two wound. my question is, people with power weapons and rending would get screwed by the rule of rending on a 6 to wound. youd kill the dude anyways.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/03/04 00:37:32
Subject: 5th Ed Rumors: Round 4
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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander
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Except that they'd get a saving throw against Rending attacks that did not roll '6' to wound. Changes to Rending would be irrelevant to Power Weapon attacks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/03/06 20:48:24
Subject: 5th Ed Rumors: Round 4
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I was told that rending for close combat would remain the same and that for shooting it would be on the wounding roll not the to hit roll.
so termies and speeders (that have both already been nerfed) will see a further reduction in effectiveness if that turns out to be true.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/03/10 22:32:58
Subject: 5th Ed Rumors: Round 4
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No big deal, everything gets nerfed and then some things get boosted, its the circle of life Gw style
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/03/11 12:05:14
Subject: 5th Ed Rumors: Round 4
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[DCM]
5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
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Reecius wrote:I was told that rending for close combat would remain the same and that for shooting it would be on the wounding roll not the to hit roll.
so termies and speeders (that have both already been nerfed) will see a further reduction in effectiveness if that turns out to be true.
That would be perfect. And because it would be perfect so I am sure that won't be the case-they'll nerf my not offensive genestealers/demonettes along with the A Cannon Spam option.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/03/12 02:56:41
Subject: 5th Ed Rumors: Round 4
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I'm of the opinion that Rending should work this way.
Roll to hit as normal using the models ballistic skill.
Take all hits, and then roll to wound. If you roll a 6, you inflict a wound, no armor save allowed. This should be in both close combat, as well as ranged.
As for rending against vehicles, I think that it should work in a similar fashion, but rolling a 6 on armor penetration (rather than the to-wound roll) should result in an automatic glancing hit, with no further dice needing to be rolled, except on the glancing table. You'll only ever glance, as a rending weapon (at range, anyway) is typically a high rate of fire weapon and not exactly designed to punch through armor, but rather inflict punishing amounts of damage to infantry. It can still be effective against armor, but it isn't what it was designed to do per-se.
That's my thoughts on that. Take it easy everyone.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/03/13 12:48:26
Subject: Re:5th Ed Rumors: Round 4
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Imperator Titan Princeps
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Kilkrazy-I think they will do a simultaneous release because people moan such a lot otherwise.
Never. Never heard moaning before.
I'm going to play 'Hello Kitty' MMORPG now....
The 'said' document I have psychically browsed...
Is propaganda.
It's spelt too well and makes too much grammatical sense to be a GW production
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/03/28 05:03:43
Subject: 5th Ed Rumors: Round 4
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I don't know if this has been said, but basically only a carnifex in close combat with a monolith is the only way nids can take down a monolith? seems kind of.....well, just kinda bones nids versus necrons
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