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Drop Trooper with Demo Charge





England

Wittman79 wrote:Oi may I remind you that I pick the points value to allow slightly different choices in armies, smaller games finish quick but limit stuff taken
how about no special characters ?


I have none so naturally, im okay with this

2250pts(The Grizzly Guardsmen)
WDL: 28\8\14 (All point lists)

WHFB - Ogre kingdoms:
WDL: 6/0/0 (All points lists)
The Lascannons roll.... 
   
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Swift Swooping Hawk





England, Sunderland, Hetton-Le-Hole

If that is the case then Nathan is fued. But that could work. I like the idea. I wuld need to change my list but i would have doen that anyway.

 
   
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Implacable Skitarii




North East of England




RatWolf wrote:
Hesh_Tank_On wrote:
RatWolf wrote:1750 and 2000 have always gone down well.

it was certain people that turned up that made it slow.

Great weekend tho.


Fixed that for you Ratwolf


Wait what? who was playing slow?


The comment was made in jest, the smiley face gives a hint ( ).

But to be serious for a minute no matter what points value sometimes games will be slower (playing style, rule queries, horde armies) and the majority will have to wait.

I for one enjoyed the points limits, All my good tournie choices were maxed out at 1750pts so I just had fillers but it meant I played armies with a bit more variety than the norm. EYIGs three storm ravens didn't make it (thankfully) but the Death company Dread List did.


A wise man never plays leapfrog with a Unicorn.

My interpretation of unreasonable force falls somewhere between
shooting them with a gun that fires werewolves, and dropping a volcano on them.

 
   
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Druid Warder





North-East England

Not a fan of that in the slightest.

My Nids have 2 in the list ...

I'm neither Angel nor a Demonspawn. 
   
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Steadfast Grey Hunter




North east England

2 what ?
Yeah I agree Hesh rules queries and hordes can slow the games down
I will look at when and points limits or variations to lists and potential of chapter approved vehicles etc
   
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Druid Warder





North-East England

2 Special Characters.

I'm neither Angel nor a Demonspawn. 
   
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Regular Dakkanaut




UK

Thanks for the tourni wittman. Looking forward to the next one. I like the split points, but have no strong feelings on what they should be. My only comment would be if they are larger (2250) there needs to be time limits on the games - maybe 3 hours? Round 4 went on for over 4 hours!

EYIG
   
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Swift Swooping Hawk





England, Sunderland, Hetton-Le-Hole

Yeah sorry about that. It was a long game with lots of killing.

 
   
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Druid Warder





North-East England

redkeyboard wrote:Yeah sorry about that. It was a long game with lots of killing.


If i recall correctly, it wasnt your game, it was Bede and Greg.

I'm neither Angel nor a Demonspawn. 
   
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Swift Swooping Hawk





England, Sunderland, Hetton-Le-Hole

No my game lasted past theirs by about 15 minutes to half an hour. And my game only got to turn 5 theres was turn 7.

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Steadfast Grey Hunter




North east England

Well a time limit will be set from now on meaning the people who take longer will have less turns also may have to set a turn limit of 5 maybe 6 turns then game over
As for points the limit will be 2250 at max if I decide to go this high again
Keep the feedback coming though guys
   
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Druid Warder





North-East England

Feedback ?

1750 is definately a solid bottom point level. Absolutely no complaints there.

2000 or 2250, both are good, both change the game drastically but, 2000pts would be quicker games.

Although that special scenario screwed me righteously, it was as fun as a monkey in a barrel.

I'm neither Angel nor a Demonspawn. 
   
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Implacable Skitarii




North East of England

Wittman79 wrote:Well a time limit will be set from now on meaning the people who take longer will have less turns also may have to set a turn limit of 5 maybe 6 turns then game over
As for points the limit will be 2250 at max if I decide to go this high again
Keep the feedback coming though guys


Time limit works better I think, especially the way Bede and I played our 5th turn. Bede had last player turn. At the end of the fourth turn we divided what time we had left in half for each player. This stopped any last minute " I've forgotten the rules or proceeding slowly to stop your opponent getting his final turn" shenanagins I've seen elsewhere.

The trouble with defined game turn length in objective games is the second player just hides several units in cover until the last minute objective rush without the need to plan for a further turn.

No easy answer Witt, but would an earlier start on the second day not help or does transport issues mean it has to stay the same?

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A wise man never plays leapfrog with a Unicorn.

My interpretation of unreasonable force falls somewhere between
shooting them with a gun that fires werewolves, and dropping a volcano on them.

 
   
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Druid Warder





North-East England

Hesh_Tank_On wrote:
Wittman79 wrote:

No easy answer Witt, but would an earlier start on the second day not help or does transport issues mean it has to stay the same?


I thinks its so Yvonne and Alan can have a lie in.

I'm neither Angel nor a Demonspawn. 
   
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Loyal Necron Lychguard





I'm ok with no SC's, scince my Tau are just battlesuit commanders. (yes, Im thinking of playing Tau next time)

 Pilau Rice wrote:
I meant in the typical Chaos ritual, you know blood, virgins .. Justin Bieber Albums. I can imagine after many years of frustration and constant burnt food, Jerold the Chef calls his cooker one to many bad names and it subsequently removes itself from the wall and fries him.


Experience is something you get just after you need it
The Narkos Dynasty: 5k 
   
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Shunting Grey Knight Interceptor




Newcastle

No special characters would limit the variety of armies severely. How many of the new books have vastly different armies unlocked with special characters?
Also, no special characters wouldn't affect how long the games took.
I do realise that I played a special character, but is that a bad thing? My army wasn't like any of the other grey knights armies at the tourney.

I don't have a preference to points limits.



http://apostatesanonymous.blogspot.com/ - tactics and army lists with the occasional hobby article. 
   
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Swift Swooping Hawk





England, Sunderland, Hetton-Le-Hole

I agree with Bede here. All the Blood Angels armies were vastly different from each other. I was running a DoA army, Nathan ran DC and dread soam then Chris ran his list (not sure what it had in) but it was different from our lists. Me and Nathan also both took special characters which allowed us to differ our armies vastly. But although I don't see it as a good thing to remove special characters it is not a bad thing either.

 
   
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Regular Dakkanaut




UK

I agree that Special Characters are an integral part of 40k. They add variety, and character to armies.

I'm excited about Imperial armour units...!

EYIG
   
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Loyal Necron Lychguard





If Imperial Armour units are allowed next time, I might run crons again with some FW Tomb Stalkers

 Pilau Rice wrote:
I meant in the typical Chaos ritual, you know blood, virgins .. Justin Bieber Albums. I can imagine after many years of frustration and constant burnt food, Jerold the Chef calls his cooker one to many bad names and it subsequently removes itself from the wall and fries him.


Experience is something you get just after you need it
The Narkos Dynasty: 5k 
   
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Steadfast Grey Hunter




North east England

If you are using tombstalkers then you have to have the model as the model is available
   
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Swift Swooping Hawk





England, Sunderland, Hetton-Le-Hole

If forgeworld is allowed I might bring my tau out for a spin. Tau Pathfinder Tetras sound like a good choice.

 
   
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Regular Dakkanaut




UK

Tetras are pretty cool. 110 points for 2 BS4 fast skimmers with 4 marker lights each - that's only 14 points more than 8 pathfinders. And they come with disruption pods....! They solve all the problems with pathfinders, for only 14 points more!

Awesome

Also - check out the sensor tower......not bad!

EYIG
   
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Loyal Necron Lychguard





Wittman79 wrote:If you are using tombstalkers then you have to have the model as the model is available

Yes, I know Witt.

Happy, is it your IA book that has the the Tomb Stalker rules in it, or is it yours Hesh? Either way, I would appreciate a chance to check them out.

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 Pilau Rice wrote:
I meant in the typical Chaos ritual, you know blood, virgins .. Justin Bieber Albums. I can imagine after many years of frustration and constant burnt food, Jerold the Chef calls his cooker one to many bad names and it subsequently removes itself from the wall and fries him.


Experience is something you get just after you need it
The Narkos Dynasty: 5k 
   
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Druid Warder





North-East England

IHateNids wrote:
Wittman79 wrote:If you are using tombstalkers then you have to have the model as the model is available

Yes, I know Witt.

Happy, is it your IA book that has the the Tomb Stalker rules in it, or is it yours Hesh? Either way, I would appreciate a chance to check them out.


Same book mate.

I'm neither Angel nor a Demonspawn. 
   
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Loyal Necron Lychguard





Oh, I thought they had two different IA books... -__-

Anyway, could I have a look at one of them this saturday

 Pilau Rice wrote:
I meant in the typical Chaos ritual, you know blood, virgins .. Justin Bieber Albums. I can imagine after many years of frustration and constant burnt food, Jerold the Chef calls his cooker one to many bad names and it subsequently removes itself from the wall and fries him.


Experience is something you get just after you need it
The Narkos Dynasty: 5k 
   
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Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel





*bursts though room with axe* HEEEAAARRRS JHONNY!!!

Yeah mine has tomb stalker rules, as well as pylons.

SC: since prices have been drastically nerfed then my viable choice is Abbadon, or Nurgle DP with warptime or chaos sorcerer units with gift of chaos...

Either way I can go around this but it will make my games harder to win (adding tactical challenge) so im not fussed about this.

the points are good just the way they are

cant wait for the next tourney (hopefully with new CSM dex ).

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 Grey Templar wrote:

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Druid Warder





North-East England

I dont think i'll be using any FW units.

I dont mind playing against them tho.

Sean will make sure they arent OP.

I'm neither Angel nor a Demonspawn. 
   
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Steadfast Grey Hunter




North east England

Op ?
   
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Swift Swooping Hawk





England, Sunderland, Hetton-Le-Hole

Over powered. And how can Sean make sure that they arent over powered he doesn't exactly write the imperial armour books.

 
   
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Loyal Necron Lychguard





Meaning he'll disallow the unit if it is like a 20 power attack unit or something (not saying that there is a 20 power attack unit out there somewhere, but not saying theres not either)

 Pilau Rice wrote:
I meant in the typical Chaos ritual, you know blood, virgins .. Justin Bieber Albums. I can imagine after many years of frustration and constant burnt food, Jerold the Chef calls his cooker one to many bad names and it subsequently removes itself from the wall and fries him.


Experience is something you get just after you need it
The Narkos Dynasty: 5k 
   
 
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