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I seen that apparently there are only 2,000 copies world-wide of the Ork Warboss edition codex stuff, so im wondering if there actually IS only 2000 and its not selling, or if GW is just printing more, lying about the numbers?

But it comes with tokens!

I doubt they're printing more and lying about it, that would be too easy to detect. I'm sure the book will sell out eventually; they can't all be homeruns - sometimes you gotta work for it.

It's extra expensive.
The alternate cover art is ugly.
The coins are kind of cool, but not worth the price tag

 adamsouza wrote:
It's extra expensive.
The alternate cover art is ugly.
The coins are kind of cool, but not worth the price tag

This.

cosmicsoybean wrote:
I seen that apparently there are only 2,000 copies world-wide of the Ork Warboss edition codex stuff, so im wondering if there actually IS only 2000 and its not selling, or if GW is just printing more, lying about the numbers?

It might be that some people preordered and canceled, returned their product, or any number of possibilities.

Their losses on this will be minimal. The books are not especially expensive to produce and the mark up is massive. They lose out on profit but the investment on their part is nothing in comparison to a poorly selling line of miniatures.

 adamsouza wrote:
It's extra expensive.
The alternate cover art is ugly.
The coins are kind of cool, but not worth the price tag

I LOVE the artwork on these books personally!

I got the warboss edition and I love it. The covers are nice and orky, the chest they came in seems pretty sturdy and I'm just crazy about those objective marker coins.

To each his own. I don't think all of the warboss books sold, they were pretty expensive.

well they're not numbered so who knows how many they've sold. Call in the next ten minutes and get a limited edition book mark!

VanHallan wrote:
well they're not numbered so who knows how many they've sold. Call in the next ten minutes and get a limited edition book mark!

Oh? I have seen a few open ones with a numbered paper inside

 Mumblez wrote:
To each his own.

I specifically did not buy the Warboss Edition because of the exclusive cover art

Well, we will never really know as GW conveniently forgot to include the actual numbers with the books. You have to send them proof that you purchased the set, and then they will send you a certificate to place within the book saying "#1234 of 2000 copies Imperial Sanctioned" or some such nonsense. I believe it was not an over sight, and at some point in the future, 2-3 people will step up showing they have the exact same number in this "Limited Edition" release.

Well, I think they may be learning. The Space Wolves special editions will only total 1500 copies; 1000 of the 'lesser' version, and 500 for the super special limited uber edition.

Cover art looks pretty boring too.

7th had 2,000 copies of the limited edition and it took them like a month to disappear, I have no trouble believing GW can't move an equal number of ork books.

Tired of shelling out $50 for a hardcover codex ?

Well we have just what you need, a $150 version of the same book !!

 Tamwulf wrote:
Well, we will never really know as GW conveniently forgot to include the actual numbers with the books. You have to send them proof that you purchased the set, and then they will send you a certificate to place within the book saying "#1234 of 2000 copies Imperial Sanctioned" or some such nonsense. I believe it was not an over sight, and at some point in the future, 2-3 people will step up showing they have the exact same number in this "Limited Edition" release.

Trust me, it was an oversight (I'm friends with the guy who wrote the apology note you got with the numbered sticker); there was a lot of shouting up at Lenton over this cock up...

Maybe it is because this new Ork book was VERY Underwhelming.

Orkhead wrote:
Maybe it is because this new Ork book was VERY Underwhelming.

This.

GW is still under is self made delusion that the models sell themselves, that well thought out and competitive rules don't help sales in the slightest, and that people will gladly shell out 240 dollars for 5 mek guns for anywhere from 90 to 150 or so points for their army.

I believe poor sales will frighten them, and that space wolves will get the over compensated swing to the op side this edition to ensure sales.

 Orock wrote:

Orkhead wrote:
Maybe it is because this new Ork book was VERY Underwhelming.

This.

GW is still under is self made delusion that the models sell themselves, that well thought out and competitive rules don't help sales in the slightest, and that people will gladly shell out 240 dollars for 5 mek guns for anywhere from 90 to 150 or so points for their army.

I think it mostly has to do with the price of the collectors edition itself.

I believe poor sales will frighten them, and that space wolves will get the over compensated swing to the op side this edition to ensure sales.

Not a chance, the Space Wolf book would have been finalised long before the Ork book was released. The SW book might be over powered, but it won't be because of the Ork book, it will simply be because GW suck at balance.

Also has a lot to do with many players abandoning 40k during 6th and at a much larger pace since 7th. Less people around to buy = less being sold.

 adamsouza wrote:
It's extra expensive.
The alternate cover art is ugly.
The coins are kind of cool, but not worth the price tag

The cover art isn't bad, it's just basic. It's a Deathskullz emblem and a Goff emblem.

I'm not sure I'd call it "extra" expensive. Remember, a basic special edition codex or supplement is $100. If you got a special edition codex and later a special edition supplement, that's $200. The Ork Warboss edition had one of each in it, plus the art prints, and tokens, in a pretty sturdy case that had magnets in it to help keep it closed. The tokens actually are pretty nice, better in person than I expected them to be, they're pretty sturdy (but apparently will cast a curse on your dice if you try to teleport onto them). So, given that you're getting two books, plus the extras, for less than what two special edition books normally cost, it's not "extra" expensive. It's less expensive than normal special editions, really. (Granted, those are pretty bloody expensive, but eh.)

On the subject of how many there are... I'm annoyed about some still being available. I put in a request for a sticker the moment they sent out the email saying "Oops, we forgot to put the numbers on them!" (And I also put in one of the first pre-orders.) When I finally got it, it was 1967/2000. Makes me wonder how many are still available and if they might end up being "numbered" lower than the ones folks have already bought. Sure, the number doesn't mean that much to me, I just wanted a spiffy looking pair of books and all and to feel like I did something special for my Orks (my favorite army EVER). But the principle of it does bother me.

I find it funnier with the Munitorum (or whatever) bags they were selling for $100. Supposedly limited edition and all that. But every time someone finally buys the one at the local GW store (with the manager saying, "That's it, I can't get more in"), they send him another one... which makes him look like a liar, even though as far as he knows they should have all been sold out long ago (and it's not easy moving the product).

Yeah, this has gone out of hand, I'm really not surprised it's not selling.

I mean, I like the idea of a limited edition codex and it is a cool idea. I'd pay £5 more, maybe £10, for the novelty and a snazzy cover. But double the price was ridiculous.

But now they're doing these stupid £100 bundles: it's just unfathomable. I was shocked the limited edition books sold out but now I think they've taken it too far. I hope that, if they have, and they're not selling, GW learn a lesson from this. Most probably they won't though.

 Orock wrote:
GW is still under is self made delusion that the models sell themselves, that well thought out and competitive rules don't help sales in the slightest, and that people will gladly shell out 240 dollars for 5 mek guns for anywhere from 90 to 150 or so points for their army.

Not the best example to use, though. The people I know who've grudgingly paid for the Mek Gun models (because they don't feel comfortable modeling their own) did so because those guns are ridiculously useful, especially the Traktor Kannon, which is possible the best AA gun in the game. The Smasha Gun also gives much-needed AP1, and the Kustom Mega Kannon is a high Strength AP2 blast, great for taking out Terminators and moderately armored vehicles. They jacked up the price on that model because they knew people would want them because of the rules.

The Orkanauts are where their confusion sets in. It is a pretty cool kit, I'll admit, and I'd love to convert one with a bar inside based on a joke someone made at the store, but I can't justify dropping that much money again when I've had "meh" experience with the Morkanaut I currently have. A lot of people look at the rules and figure that $105 is a silly amount to drop on something that can't move quickly, is still just BS2, has an odd small Transport inside (that isn't Assault Vehicle), and can be blown up with one shot. Sure, it's a cool model. But it's not terribly useful in-game.

I play orks since 2010 and this last release was like meh!

 ErikSetzer wrote:

 Orock wrote:
GW is still under is self made delusion that the models sell themselves, that well thought out and competitive rules don't help sales in the slightest, and that people will gladly shell out 240 dollars for 5 mek guns for anywhere from 90 to 150 or so points for their army.

Not the best example to use, though. The people I know who've grudgingly paid for the Mek Gun models (because they don't feel comfortable modeling their own) did so because those guns are ridiculously useful, especially the Traktor Kannon, which is possible the best AA gun in the game. The Smasha Gun also gives much-needed AP1, and the Kustom Mega Kannon is a high Strength AP2 blast, great for taking out Terminators and moderately armored vehicles. They jacked up the price on that model because they knew people would want them because of the rules.

The Orkanauts are where their confusion sets in. It is a pretty cool kit, I'll admit, and I'd love to convert one with a bar inside based on a joke someone made at the store, but I can't justify dropping that much money again when I've had "meh" experience with the Morkanaut I currently have. A lot of people look at the rules and figure that $105 is a silly amount to drop on something that can't move quickly, is still just BS2, has an odd small Transport inside (that isn't Assault Vehicle), and can be blown up with one shot. Sure, it's a cool model. But it's not terribly useful in-game.

Your friends are missing the joy of orks if they feel uncomfortable scratch building. I made all this out of one trukk kit, one mek gun kit, some plasticard, and scraps I had saved up over the years. People will just give you random left over parts sometimes.

cosmicsoybean wrote:
I seen that apparently there are only 2,000 copies world-wide of the Ork Warboss edition codex stuff, so im wondering if there actually IS only 2000 and its not selling, or if GW is just printing more, lying about the numbers?

This is a very serious accusation. I understand there is a culture of hate against GW on DakkaDakka but seriously has it come to this?

 changerofways wrote:

cosmicsoybean wrote:
I seen that apparently there are only 2,000 copies world-wide of the Ork Warboss edition codex stuff, so im wondering if there actually IS only 2000 and its not selling, or if GW is just printing more, lying about the numbers?

This is a very serious accusation. I understand there is a culture of hate against GW on DakkaDakka but seriously has it come to this?

I don't think it is an accusation, the OP is only wondering. Yet there are good cause for his thinking, since I too don't think GW is taken too seriously about their limited edition products.

Here are 3 examples (facts) that I recall about GW limited edition products.
1. Dark Angels Limited Edition Codex, it has been found out that there are 2 LE codex with the same number, GW investigated that around a few hundred does indeed have the same numbers but 1 set is sold in US and another set sold in Europe, 1 of those batches were sent stickers to represent the proper numbering.

2. Space Marine Ultima Limited Collection. Duncun (Offical GW painting rep) did a official unboxing, the product does not have any numbers and Duncun confirmed it is a store copy. confirming there is at least 501 copies.

3. Orks LE doesn't have any numbering at all, making any type of verfication all the more harder.

 changerofways wrote:

cosmicsoybean wrote:
I seen that apparently there are only 2,000 copies world-wide of the Ork Warboss edition codex stuff, so im wondering if there actually IS only 2000 and its not selling, or if GW is just printing more, lying about the numbers?

This is a very serious accusation. I understand there is a culture of hate against GW on DakkaDakka but seriously has it come to this?

No, it isn't, and no there isn't.

 ErikSetzer wrote:

 adamsouza wrote:

It's extra expensive.

I'm not sure I'd call it "extra" expensive. Remember, a basic special edition codex or supplement is $100.

$50 for a codex is pushing it, $100 for the same book with alternate cover art is insanity

The Pathfider RPG retails for $49.99, although you can easily get it for 30ish, and is hard covered containing 576 pages of Full Color.

Paizo makes it's money selling you that book.
GW makes it's money selling you models.

I take that back, GW evidently is in the printing money in book format buissiness. Don't even get me started on the digital versions....