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I've been working on a list and I havnt bought any of the models yet and have never played as tyranids just have the codex on my iPhone helpful critisim would be helpful as buying all the models is gonna be expensive.

HQ tervigon

Elites
3 zoanthropes
2 lictors

Troops
30 hormagaunts with adrenal glands
30 hormagaunts with adrenal glands
60 termagaunts to be spawned by tervigon
6 warriors with poison sacks

Heavy support
2 carnifex both with crushing claws
1 trogon

It's currently at 1505 any help would be nice

I only been playing a few weeks but I think the needed models in any list is a Hive Tyrant w/wings and Twin Linked Devourers. Also nothing wrong with Carnifexs either with Twin Linked Devouerers.

To be honest Lictors are fun and all, but don't see much play. And if you really like swarm lists try out the Tervigon.


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Oh and don't make the Tervigon an HQ. For point value might as well add the free 30 gaunts if it's a troop choice instead.

I was thinking of deep striking the lictors rafter using the trygons subterranean assault would be useful what do you think

I think your list is a great start. Although, if I have any advice it would be the following:

Make sure you define what you want with this army. Do you want to play focusing on the fluffy aspects? Do you want to play from a "competitive" aspect? There are major differences with how you'd build these armies and so before you buy models, decide on how you want to start.

Do you want to play a "horde" army? Where you can flood the board with bodies? Or do you want an MC heavy list.

I really like your list you have so far. A Tervigon, is by no means "the best option" and as ahemedinger mentions, a Flying Hive tyrant with twin linked devourers *is* much better. OTOH, a Tervigon is *still* an 6 wound MC that can spawn Objective secured scoring units.

Lictors are fun, but to be successful need to be supported. Most of their special rules are gimmicky to say the least and their pheromone trail is next to useless.

From what I can tell, you're trying to go for a horde style army. I would suggest to shrink your hormagaunt units just slightly to 20-25 models and instead of adrenal glands, use toxin sacs. Because poison rules allow you to always wound on 4+ (barring exceptions) these units will be much more useful against just about every unit in the game. Look into splitting your Zoanthrope unit into 2 units and you'll have a great start.

Don't have too many expectations from your Carnifexen with crushing claws though...

Trottpot wrote:
I've been working on a list and I havnt bought any of the models yet and have never played as tyranids just have the codex on my iPhone helpful critisim would be helpful as buying all the models is gonna be expensive.

HQ tervigon

Elites
3 zoanthropes
2 lictors

Troops
30 hormagaunts with adrenal glands
30 hormagaunts with adrenal glands
60 termagaunts to be spawned by tervigon
6 warriors with poison sacks

Heavy support
2 carnifex both with crushing claws
1 trogon

It's currently at 1505 any help would be nice

Not a whole lot to add....I find Tervigons a little over priced...I would suggest that you'll be happier with Dakkafexen (Carnifex, TL: Brain Leeches x2, 150 per) I would also build the Warriors as two Broods, each with a Cannon.

If you like Lictors, I suggest your Elites be: Zoey, x2...Lictor Brood, x2, Venomthrope...you end up saving 5 points, and up you board presense a fair bit. I suggest a Mawloc, rather than a Trygon.(magnets rule! ) I do think Toxic will work better than Adrenal, but plain Gaunts with no upgrades may prove the best choice. One reason to keep Toxic is not having enough Big Bugs to handle enemy MCs. AV will be a major "issue" without enough Big Bugs, so you may end up wanting more Carnifexen.

If you add a Tyrant, you can still use the Tervigon as a Troop, as long as you include one Brood of x30 Termigants.

Good luck! And welcome to the Hive Mind!

Shall I stick with 2 carnifex was or take one out

As mentioned, you need a flying hive tyrant if you're expecting to be even remotely competitive.

Make the Tervigon a troops choice, and take a brood of 30 Termagants to do so.

Ditch the Lictors. They are expensive cannon fodder.

Zoanthropes are situationally good for mid-field synapse. However, you should check out the new Forge World rules for the Malanthrope. It's an incredible unit; essentially a Venomthrope with synapse that is much harder to kill.

If you're going to give your hormagaunts upgrades, they should be toxin sacs, not adrenal glands. However, I rarely upgrade my gaunts at all. They do plenty of damage even without upgrades due to the volume of attacks, and giving them toxin sacs will make people shoot them up even more. And as I'm sure you're aware, gaunts drop like flies to shooting.

You do not need 60 termagants spare for spawning by the way. Average spawning per game for a single Tervigon is ~19 termagants.

Warriors are generally bad. They are overcosted and extremely vulnerable to instant death from S8+, which is abundant in 7E.

Give your carnifexes dual twin-linked devourers with brainleech worms. 12 twin-linked S6 shots per turn is exceptional for 150 pts. You'll tear up vehicles in assault with or without the crushing claws, but with the devourers you can shoot up infantry/elites/flyers on the way there as well.

Trygons are ok. Not nearly as good as they used to be, thanks to the nerfs to both scything talons and the Smash special rule. Personally, I'd rather have a Mawloc, or some kind of additional FMC (usually a Hive Crone).

In general, competitive Tyranid lists revolve around Flyrants and other FMCs, with Exocrines, Dakkafexes, and Mawlocs also making appearances. The best-placing Tyranid lists at tournaments lately have not included a single gaunt; they use rippers as MSU troops while spamming MCs and FMCs.

Cheers


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Ok I have redone the list here it is

Hq -
Hive tyrant with wings twin linked devourer lash whip and bone sword indescribable horror and old adversary

Elites -
2 zoanthrope

Troops
9 riper swarms
9 riper swarms

Fast attack
1 hive crone
1 hive crone
1 hive crone

Heavy support
2 carnifexes with dual twin linked devourers
1 Mawloc

Comes to around 1500

This looks quite strong and competitive. The only change I might make would be to make one of those Crones into a Harpy, probably with HVC for a bit for anti-armor.

Keep in mind that the advice in my previous post was solely with the purpose of making your list as strong as possible. However, strong and fun don't always go together. While I never run completely fluffy lists, I do frequently disregard my own advice and take sub-optimal units just because I enjoy running them.

Lastly, if you aren't familiar with it, check out the Skyblight Swarm formation. It's very strong, and once you have the 4 FMCs listed here, you already have most of it.