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So with it being my birthday in two days my gf has asked me what I would like (apparently a new beard trimmer wasn't exciting enough), and I am really torn between these two.
Stormclaw is still available in the local GW.

Imperial knight:
I have a large (10k+) BA army and I feel an IK will work very well in large games with my tankline of 3 vindis and 6 baals + other vehicles. The 12" move means I have a very mobile battlefront which can redeploy 12" whilst losing very little firepower. The knight itself will help take the heat off my vindis and baals and its 2 shot battlecannon (It will be a paladin as I have enough melta), has good synergy with the vindis demolisher cannons. Future purchases will include a couple of vengence batteries with battle cannons. This will keep the focus on my BA which may be a good move with the new dex coming out.

Stormclaw:
I want to start an ork army (bought the dex last week). I already own a small unplayable (tactically) ork force of: a MA warboss (2nd ed - as large as a slightly broad shouldered tac marine); an 'eavy armour warboss (3rd ed); 5 nobz (3rd ed); 20 boyz (2nd ed); 40 gretchin (2nd ed - boy their helmets hurt the soles of your feet); a skorcha (3rd ed); a warbuggy (3rd ed); a wartrukk (2nd ed); and a lobba (fantasy chaos dwarves cannon/lobba thing). I would want to get a stompa, a couple of units of kannons, a unit of lobbas and 3 units of warbuggies (everything in units of 5). The problem is this will cost me ~£600. Is this just a spending trap I will be falling into?
It will save me always borrowing the 7th ed rules and also give me a nice force of SW allies for my BA (although I will also probably end up getting one each of their new flyers).
I am only 'allowed' by my gf to spend £50 a month on models. So it would take a while to get this force up to scratch.

Im really struggling to decide. So fall into the spending trap of getting a 4th army (others being CSM and Necrons) or focus upon main army and hope the new BA dex hits the jackpot? Is there anything I have missed which would sway me one way or the other?

You're not even married and she's controlling your hobby spending? Ditch the gf and buy both for yourself. The only thing more expensive than a GW hobby is a woman...

Lol when you live together, shop together, pay bills, rent and council tax together, they have a say in spending!

There is something 10x more expensive than both - running a car!

Any suggestions between each though (the boxes)?

It sounds like the IK would be a better choice. Your ork army is a long way from completion and the ork side of the box isn't that useful. Not to mention orks are ridiculously expensive to build a large army.

Yeh that is the main issue :-(. They seem to be THE most expensive army £ per point. I mean a kannon is 18pts but £18.50, no other army I can think of has models which are more expensive in £s than points! I REALLY want a stompa though - and that has to be the cheapest £s for points model.
My head does say knight. But then I will also eventually have to fork out for the BRB.

As much as I want to say Stormclaw in support of the Orks, an Imperial Knight would compliment your current forces much better. If you want to get into Orks, I would say the Stormclaw set isn't the best way to do it.

Since it's a gift, I'd ask for the Imperial Knight.

The Nobz, Kanz, and Grots are not the greatest starting point for Ork armies and you don't play Space Wolves.

The Storm Claw Scenarios are only for the box contents verses the box contents, so unless you planned on assembling and painting both forces to play a 6 scenario mini campaign it's something your wallet can live without.

It's better to have a gift she'll see you assemble, paint, and use.

Since Storm claw is a sold out limited edition it should be a no brainer.

Cheers guys. By the sounds of it an IK definitely looks the better idea!


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 HisDivineShadow wrote:
Since Storm claw is a sold out limited edition it should be a no brainer.

Its still available in my local GW. Or was 3 days ago.

Poly Ranger wrote:
Yeh that is the main issue :-(. They seem to be THE most expensive army £ per point. I mean a kannon is 18pts but £18.50, no other army I can think of has models which are more expensive in £s than points! I REALLY want a stompa though - and that has to be the cheapest £s for points model.
My head does say knight. But then I will also eventually have to fork out for the BRB.

You certainly have never seen the Adepta Sororitas (Sisters of Battle) army, have you? $80 for a troop

Poly Ranger wrote:
Yeh that is the main issue :-(. They seem to be THE most expensive army £ per point. I mean a kannon is 18pts but £18.50, no other army I can think of has models which are more expensive in £s than points! I REALLY want a stompa though - and that has to be the cheapest £s for points model.
My head does say knight. But then I will also eventually have to fork out for the BRB.

But Orks also have the benefit of being the easiest to convert and scratch build for. I made my Lobbas and Kannons out of plastic army toys by painting them up and slapping plasticard blast shields and bits on them to Orkify them. And it only cost me 8 bucks for all 6 since I had extra plasticard laying around.

Ah yes - I have played against them a massive two times. They are exceedingly rare... I think I now know why with that revelation!


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Melevolence wrote:

Poly Ranger wrote:
Yeh that is the main issue :-(. They seem to be THE most expensive army £ per point. I mean a kannon is 18pts but £18.50, no other army I can think of has models which are more expensive in £s than points! I REALLY want a stompa though - and that has to be the cheapest £s for points model.
My head does say knight. But then I will also eventually have to fork out for the BRB.

But Orks also have the benefit of being the easiest to convert and scratch build for. I made my Lobbas and Kannons out of plastic army toys by painting them up and slapping plasticard blast shields and bits on them to Orkify them. And it only cost me 8 bucks for all 6 since I had extra plasticard laying around.

Hmmmm - that's a good call! I'll have to research that!

Kustomizing Orks is da main reason to play Orks !!

All you need to do is bide your time and buy some cheap boyz and nobz, AOBR was awesome for that.

Painboy - Nob with hurty Syringe
Mek - Boy with tools
Tankbustas - Boyz with Rokkit launchas
Burnas - Boyz with Burnas
Lootas- Boys with Shoulder mounted wacky gunz
Flash Gitz - Nobs with wacky guns



Scrath build EVERY vehicle



It's a lot tougher to scratch build imperial Titans

Have you considered one of the Dreamforge Leviathans as an alternative to the knight? Much better kits in posability, arguably better thematically, and much better pricing which should help you sell it to the bean counter ; )

 Yonan wrote:
Have you considered one of the Dreamforge Leviathans as an alternative to the knight? Much better kits in posability, arguably better thematically, and much better pricing which should help you sell it to the bean counter ; )

Noooooooo!

No seriously, the more people who start using them as knights, the less people who accept me using it as a warhound :(
Although mine is mounted on a 2,5" high base to make him 11" tall...

 adamsouza wrote:
Kustomizing Orks is da main reason to play Orks !!

All you need to do is bide your time and buy some cheap boyz and nobz, AOBR was awesome for that.

Painboy - Nob with hurty Syringe
Mek - Boy with tools
Tankbustas - Boyz with Rokkit launchas
Burnas - Boyz with Burnas
Lootas- Boys with Shoulder mounted wacky gunz
Flash Gitz - Nobs with wacky guns



Scrath build EVERY vehicle



It's a lot tougher to scratch build imperial Titans

Not a bad idea although I would need to start from amature levels of conversions.


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 Yonan wrote:
Have you considered one of the Dreamforge Leviathans as an alternative to the knight? Much better kits in posability, arguably better thematically, and much better pricing which should help you sell it to the bean counter ; )

Just looked at the leviathan - it looks pretty awesome. Is it a lot taller than a knight considering it is almost the size of a warhound?

By time you buy additional arms for the leviathan, your not really saving anything.

The one with the skull head is pretty sweet looking.

Knight, it sounds like it will be the most use for you and looks a pretty amazing one to paint.

Brother Michael wrote:

 Yonan wrote:
Have you considered one of the Dreamforge Leviathans as an alternative to the knight? Much better kits in posability, arguably better thematically, and much better pricing which should help you sell it to the bean counter ; )

Noooooooo!

No seriously, the more people who start using them as knights, the less people who accept me using it as a warhound :(
Although mine is mounted on a 2,5" high base to make him 11" tall...

Poly Ranger wrote:

 Yonan wrote:
Have you considered one of the Dreamforge Leviathans as an alternative to the knight? Much better kits in posability, arguably better thematically, and much better pricing which should help you sell it to the bean counter ; )

Just looked at the leviathan - it looks pretty awesome. Is it a lot taller than a knight considering it is almost the size of a warhound?

The Leviathan comes in two sizes, 15mm scale and 28mm scale. The 15mm scale is a bit smaller than the knight, the 28mm scale is substantially larger than the knight but a little smaller (with a substantially smaller profile) than a warhound. If you model either standing on rubble to match the height, most people would accept the 15mm scale as a knight and the 28mm scale as a warhound imo. I would, and my local group did/does.

The leviathans are amazing kits, substantially superior to the knights and warhounds. The knights are virtually unposeable, the leviathans are poseable down to individually moveable fingers and toes. The FW warhound kit is resin and frequently suffers from casting defects and is a PITA like most large resin kits to assemble compared to the beautiful plastic of the leviathan. Leviathans were designed to easily hot swap weapons without the need for magnets and the poseability lets you get excellent custom poses that the GW/FW kits jsut can't match. They both have (or in 15mm case will have very soon) enough weapon options to match or exceed what's available for gw and fw kits.

Came across this randomly, and remembered this thread




the 15mm is about 2" too short
the 28mm is about 2" too tall.