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So according to Bell of Lost Souls, the Necrons will be the next one to get an updated codex.

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2014/08/necrons-codex-whispers.html


New talk is doing the rounds on the Necrons coming in the months ahead, on the heels of Grey Knights.



Codexwise: the Necron codex is described as being a minimal updated codex, similar to Grey Knights, crammed into a very short release window.

Models: Unlike Grey Knights there is talk of a new combo-plastic kit for Destroyers which will include the parts for Heavy Destroyers and Necron Destroyer Lords. There is mixed chatter on whether the clear green rod will be replaced with standard plastic.

Timing: Look for these to be coming in Fall.



Most likely become a Hardcover book be written in a format similar to the Ork codex.

From Lord_Gir:

This 'talk' is based pretty much on speculation as far as I can tell ('cos I'm such an authority). The Necron Codex (hardcover) 'disappeared' from the UK and US GW sites and the AUS one on closer inspection. But with a bit of digging you can still find it in the "codexes and supplements' sections. The rest seems to be wish-listing and educated guesses as to what would need to be done for the release

And the rumours are worthy of face-palming.
"Coming in Fall" < This will mean somewhere in the next five months. My baby-nephew could tell us that
"Minimal updated" < Wild guessing from people on a forum. "Grey Knights had a minimal update, perhaps Necrons will have the same" is not a reliable rumour.

That post was made for clicks, nothing more.

Mephiston is not pleased.

If true, good good good! For one, they need fixes for the good of the meta- Tesla should not work on snap-fire. And the Tran-C'Tan and Mindshackle Scarabs need toned down. And as a bonus, it means my wallet can relax for a few weeks.

All I hope for is that they don't give in to the lame QQ about Tesla and MSS.
If MSS makes you lose the game, you should learn the rules.

 changerofways wrote:
Mephiston is not pleased.

That had to be expected!
We've had Space Wolves and Grey Knights. I was nearly 99% sure that the next release would be Xenos.

''Coming in the months ahead'' makes me doubt this rumour, recently the best we've been getting is about 2 weeks notice.

On the other hand, I would not be surprised by a quick update to the Necron Codex. No new models are really needed, other than maybe some big mechanical gribbly? But we already have the FW Tomb Stalker for that.

Also, there is a possibly underhanded reason for the quick releases of the GK and Necron codices: removing Matt Ward's name from the publications. After those two, how many others will still have him credited as the author?

Banking on Destroyers and monoliths becoming awesome again since after they nerf wraiths, mss, annihilation barges, night scythes, and chariots... we won't have much else to play with

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
If true, good good good! For one, they need fixes for the good of the meta- Tesla should not work on snap-fire. And the Tran-C'Tan and Mindshackle Scarabs need toned down. And as a bonus, it means my wallet can relax for a few weeks.

Boooooo. Necrons aren't exactly rolling everyone in the tourney scene, and without any reliable high strength shooting, we're very reliant on those barges dealing out the hurt. Sure, NS rock the same weapon, but come from reserves and require careful maneuvering to line up targets. I really feel that tesla working on snap shots is one of my army's standard rule bends, like RP or ATSKNF or BF etc. Necrons have some severe limitations to deal with, very limited range, one feasible CC unit, very limited tank punching weapons, etc. Come to think of it, as far as ground forces go, are only source of medium level firepower is the AB. Why nerf 'em?

I'd be happier with a codex that made a variety of Necron units, new or old, competitively feasible, so we can see a similar variety in builds. Necrons are not incredibly OP - they have fewer OP units than a number of armies out there, and have not proved to be an OP force in recent tourney builds. I think players have just gotten a bit weary of the same old tricks, but that's not the fault of the Necron player - we just need a new bag of tricks.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
Also, there is a possibly underhanded reason for the quick releases of the GK and Necron codices: removing Matt Ward's name from the publications. After those two, how many others will still have him credited as the author?

This is taking some peoples delusions a little too far...

UltraPrime wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
Also, there is a possibly underhanded reason for the quick releases of the GK and Necron codices: removing Matt Ward's name from the publications. After those two, how many others will still have him credited as the author?

This is taking some peoples delusions a little too far...

Except, I have nothing personal against Matt Ward, so I'll thank you for not implying I am delusional. But I honestly would not be surprised if GW may want to remove his name from their products, as he is no longer employed there. Particularly if his departure was less-than-amicable, and, especially, if he were to work for another game developer. If you were GW, would you want to sell a product with his name featured on it if he were to start working for a competitor?

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!! Why does GW hate me!!!!!! Come on my BA NEED an update I have spen countless hours/days/weeks painting customizing and making the army the best I have ever done why can't they toss me a bone PLEASE!!!!!

My Blood Angels are now Black Raging.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
On the other hand, I would not be surprised by a quick update to the Necron Codex. No new models are really needed, other than maybe some big mechanical gribbly? But we already have the FW Tomb Stalker for that.

Also, there is a possibly underhanded reason for the quick releases of the GK and Necron codices: removing Matt Ward's name from the publications. After those two, how many others will still have him credited as the author?

The existence of the BA book makes this theory very dubious.

And isn't the BA book also due for an update, as well? Besides, my eBook version of the BA Codex is credited to the Design Studio.

Honestly, no, I do not put much (next-to-none, really) stock in this "theory" at all, but I did say I would not be surprised if it was something GW wants to do.

The BA book is the oldest Ward book, and thanks to core edition changes and other codexes, the weakest, and was also rumoured to be ahead of the others in the queue.

To potentially bring another Ward book forward to eliminate his name from the books when there is already a Ward book in line for update and in greater need defies logic.

Which probably means its true.

I'd be really pleased if a sea of reanimating metal skeletons is a credible list! Nagash Warhammer Fantasy Battle to 40k cross-over kit ;-)

 Thokt wrote:
... very limited tank punching weapons ...

I think there are many things that it can be argued Necrons don't have... but I think we've got quite flexible anti-tank. Gauss, haywire stormteks, Eldritch lance destroteks, war scythes. When I'm using necrons, tanks are one of the things that don't cause me the least bit of stress.

UltraPrime wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
Also, there is a possibly underhanded reason for the quick releases of the GK and Necron codices: removing Matt Ward's name from the publications. After those two, how many others will still have him credited as the author?

This is taking some peoples delusions a little too far...

They did something similar (albeit slower) when Alessio Cavatore left the company.

 DexKivuli wrote:
I'd be really pleased if a sea of reanimating metal skeletons is a credible list! Nagash Warhammer Fantasy Battle to 40k cross-over kit ;-)

 Thokt wrote:
... very limited tank punching weapons ...

I think there are many things that it can be argued Necrons don't have... but I think we've got quite flexible anti-tank. Gauss, haywire stormteks, Eldritch lance destroteks, war scythes. When I'm using necrons, tanks are one of the things that don't cause me the least bit of stress.

Yeah, my regular Necron opponent LOVES it when I take lots of AV against him. He practically cackles madly as I deploy my future casualties, er I mean, tanks.

 DexKivuli wrote:
I'd be really pleased if a sea of reanimating metal skeletons is a credible list! Nagash Warhammer Fantasy Battle to 40k cross-over kit ;-)

 Thokt wrote:
... very limited tank punching weapons ...

I think there are many things that it can be argued Necrons don't have... but I think we've got quite flexible anti-tank. Gauss, haywire stormteks, Eldritch lance destroteks, war scythes. When I'm using necrons, tanks are one of the things that don't cause me the least bit of stress.

Technically he does have a point. There are few High-strength low AP weapons in the necron arsenal, which does mean that necrons have to rely on RoF to down tanks.
Which they can totally do.

What they do struggle with are monstrous creatures, but that's understandable; being able to wreck vehicles army wide whilst being slightly weaker to MC than most armies is a fair trade, imo.

If they retcon the fluff back, I'll spend 1000$ right on the spot.

 Azreal13 wrote:
The BA book is the oldest Ward book, and thanks to core edition changes and other codexes, the weakest, and was also rumoured to be ahead of the others in the queue.

To potentially bring another Ward book forward to eliminate his name from the books when there is already a Ward book in line for update and in greater need defies logic.

Which probably means its true.

This makes sense. Necrons are fine, and honestly could wait another year for an update and not feel the sting. If it takes much longer, us Blood Angels players might actually rage out and raid GW headquarters.

 Sigvatr wrote:
If they retcon the fluff back, I'll spend 1000$ right on the spot.

You can buy my 5th Edition book for $500, that will save you 50%!!!

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Technically he does have a point. There are few High-strength low AP weapons in the necron arsenal, which does mean that necrons have to rely on RoF to down tanks.
Which they can totally do.

What they do struggle with are monstrous creatures, but that's understandable; being able to wreck vehicles army wide whilst being slightly weaker to MC than most armies is a fair trade, imo.

That is true, but that VOF is only within 24", anything beyond that is really dangerous.
We do have some long-range options, but they are generally 'meeh'.
Stalker has 36" range and quite expensive for their life-expectancy.
Heavy Destroyers are 36" and overcosted.
Gauss Pylons got kicked in their big shiny metal balls by 7th Edition.'
Doomsday Arcs could use Ordnance or something.
And then we have the Transcendent C'tan.

I don't mind having fewer options against MC's, I think it fits the army and their style.

 th3maninblak wrote:
This makes sense. Necrons are fine, and honestly could wait another year for an update and not feel the sting. If it takes much longer, us Blood Angels players might actually rage out and raid GW headquarters.

I think both armies desperately need an update.
Blood Angels because 'Black Rage' is not just a special rule, it's how people feel when they play their army.
Necrons because they need a lot of small tweaks. It's a good Codex, especially in the tournament scene. But nearly every unit could use a small tweak or change.

I personally thought it would be: Dark Eldar > Blood Angels > Necrons.
Any way would make me sad, because it'd be an attack on my wallet since I want all the new units ánd Limited Editions of BA and Crons.

I played necrons when I had 1 HQ (Lord), 1 Elite (Immortals), 1 Troop (Warriors), and 2 FA options (Destroyers and Scarabs).

It was so easy back then....

Woo hoo! Hope Necrons don't get nerfed.

Kangodo wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:
If they retcon the fluff back, I'll spend 1000$ right on the spot.

You can buy my 5th Edition book for $500, that will save you 50%!!!

I recently sold my own 5th codex

I'd even pay 2000$. 1000$ for common sense and going back to TruCron and 1000$ for the entire act being basically spitting Matt Derp in the face.

I wouldn't be surprised is GW released a supplement that appealed to the Oldcron players.
Complete with C'tan cults and hoards of killer robots.

Tbh, I was hoping for there to be renegade tech-priests who are affiliated with the Necrons. Just imagine it, Skitarri decked out with gauss. That would have been awesome, and it would have reflected that bit of lore in the 3E codex about Mars.

I guess the design team just didn't want Necrons to compete with Chaos in the mortal minions department.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised is GW released a supplement that appealed to the Oldcron players.

Fall of Orpheus?

Ahh, Larry. Well, we'll see how this shakes out.

I expect our Fearless units to get a nerf, similar to Instinctive Behavior for Nids or Mob Rule for Orks. GW still seems to fear effective tarpitting.