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I am still trying to make DA work without focusing on Raven Wing and without exploiting the LR PFG FAQ issue.
The problems with DA are numerous: poor AA, low model count, low rate of fire, too few answers to high AV, expensive terminators... generalists in the worst sense.
But, where there is a will there is a way. Let's see if I am on to something.


Primary 1850
Belial

Techmarine w/ PFG and Bike

5xDWT, Assault cannon, TH/SS, Chain Fist

5xDWT, Assault cannon, TH/SS, Chain Fist

5xDWT, Assault cannon, TH/SS

5xDWT, CML+TH/SS, TH/SS

1xTLAC Mortis Dreadnought (skyfire & interceptor)
1xTLAC Mortis Dreadnought (skyfire & interceptor)

3xRavenwing Bikes, Plasma gun, meltabombs
1x MM Attack Bike

1x MM/HF Speeder

1x Whirlwind

Secondary Detachment - Assassins brings it to 2000
Vindicare Assassin


What do you think?


Whirlwind to help with hordes.
Terminators can deep strike to try and capture multiple objectives or that can group up for a scarier unit.
A few fast moving MMs can take AV13-14
The Vindicare is there as a good tool for medium armor and tactical precision shots
The Forgeworld Mortis Dreads ravage air units and are great against grounds units including low AV.

I'd say it looks pretty solid. Obviously, low model count is an issue, but I'm sure you're well aware of it.

Well, I am going to give this a go for a few games and see how I like it.

As the power levels of the 7th Ed. dexes get dropped across the board I am thinking there are opportunities for DA to regroup and snatch some wins here and there.

I'd honestly drop the bikes. They don't really do much for you and if you drop them and the attack bike you can grab a 6 man dev squad with lascannons. (IMO a much better AV overall, as the bikes die easier cuz they are close.)

HQ - Sammael

HQ - Librarian w/ Power Field Generator & Bike

HQ - 5x Ravenwing Command Squad w/ RGL, Champion, Apothecary

HQ - 5x Ravenwing Command Squad w/ RGL, Apothecary, Standard of Devastation

Troops - 6x Ravenwing Bike Squadron w/ Melta Bombs

Troops - 6x Ravenwing Bike Squadron w/ Melta Bombs

Troops - 6x Ravenwing Bike Squadron w/ Melta Bombs

Troops - 6x Ravenwing Bike Squadron w/ Melta Bombs

Attack Bike w/ Multi Melta
Attack Bike w/ Multi Melta
Attack Bike w/ Multi Melta

Typhoon Pattern Land Speeder
Typhoon Pattern Land Speeder
Typhoon Pattern Land Speeder

Fast Attack - Ravenwing Darkshroud

Ap3 flamers say hi.

peteralmo wrote:
HQ - Sammael

HQ - Librarian w/ Power Field Generator & Bike

HQ - 5x Ravenwing Command Squad w/ RGL, Champion, Apothecary

HQ - 5x Ravenwing Command Squad w/ RGL, Apothecary, Standard of Devastation

Troops - 6x Ravenwing Bike Squadron w/ Melta Bombs

Troops - 6x Ravenwing Bike Squadron w/ Melta Bombs

Troops - 6x Ravenwing Bike Squadron w/ Melta Bombs

Troops - 6x Ravenwing Bike Squadron w/ Melta Bombs

Attack Bike w/ Multi Melta
Attack Bike w/ Multi Melta
Attack Bike w/ Multi Melta

Typhoon Pattern Land Speeder
Typhoon Pattern Land Speeder
Typhoon Pattern Land Speeder

Fast Attack - Ravenwing Darkshroud

Sorry, no raven wing lists. I do not have the models


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 raiden wrote:
I'd honestly drop the bikes. They don't really do much for you and if you drop them and the attack bike you can grab a 6 man dev squad with lascannons. (IMO a much better AV overall, as the bikes die easier cuz they are close.)

They are a bit out of place but they help with with maelstrom missions. Las cannons would be welcome in this list however. It's a good thought; one to consider.

Another thing. You gave your dreads 2 tl ACs right?

 raiden wrote:
Another thing. You gave your dreads 2 tl ACs right?

Twin-linked Autocannons, yes.

The AI rules for mortis dreads provides sky fire and interceptor. The points are slightly different. maybe a 15 point delta if i remember correctly. Great great unit.