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Found this quote in the GW life cycle thread and thought it was a great idea!

Who else is part of the reason GW took a dive in sales and profit this year?

I'm part of the reason because I used to spend £50-100 a month on GW stuff - books, paint, models etc...

BUT with the move to 7th edition I have really lost interest in GW. Prices are too high, new products seem a bit childish (murdefang) and I just feel they couldn't care less about me as a veteran gamer at all. Oh, they want my money but there seems no love for the game.

Anyone else feel this way?

Someone better at twitter campaigns take up the mantle and send this message to GW.

I started feeling that way in 6th, and then the quick turn around of 7th that I feel never fixed my issues with 6th just turned me off completely. So I relate to your feelings completely.

But I feel a twitter campaign is being abit over dramatic. I just spend my money on other things, and games. It's not that big a deal that GW doesn't offer people like us a compelling product anymore. Just give money to companies that do.

If you need ideas for other games to play just PM me, lol

A smallish group of people (those dissatisfied with a particular manufacturer) within a niche hobby (tabletop wargaming) within a niche hobby (traditional gaming) I doubt could move the twitter needle. If you're unhappy about something, write a real letter to GW on real paper. I've always gotten the impression that someone actually reads the mail that arrives at GWHQ.

#NotMe

I just bought another copy of Space Hulk.

I bought quite a few things from the new Space Wolves pieces.

All the new Nagash stuff is beautiful. I haven't bought any, but I will be.

Additionally, GW would have to CARE about or even be AWARE of twitter for it to matter. Laughably, I'm not sure they do or are.

OP and the others whom may post similar musings, take note:

Our market is a niche market made up of people who want to collect our miniatures. They tend to be male, middle-class, discerning
teenagers and adults. We do no demographic research, we have no focus groups, we do not ask the market what it wants. These things are
otiose in a niche.

http://investor.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Games-Workshop-Group-14-combined-FINAL-cover-version.pdf

They do not care what you think of their products - the positive or negative.

 cincydooley wrote:
#NotMe
I just bought another copy of Space Hulk..

#impartofthereason because the only GW I've bought this year was Space Hulk (from an indy for 10% off RRP), 3 drinks & meal @ WHW, and a tape measure, whilst I've spend about as much every month on competitors stuff (Battlefront, Warlord, West Wind, SodaPop, Avatars Of War, Wyrd, Corvus Belli and Ramshackle Games).

I did buy a lot of Dwarfs for WHB but since my indy didn't get the army book in on time I bought infinity instead and shelfed the dwarfs. None of which were from GW either, so it's not as if I even play their games much.

I bought Space Hulk for the nostalgia factor, but I won't be buying the digital supplements and since they won't be releasing any real supplements my money is safe (I say safe, but I've just got hooked on Bolt Action, so I need to buy lots of Soviets).

My off hand comment sparked a movement!

The only way to effect them is to stop buying. That's the only language they speak now.

GW can tell I am part of the reason because I regularly bought stuff from their website and I stopped.

Except they can't tell, because when they redesigned their website they threw away all the existing customer records.

£4 Million well spent!

 Kilkrazy wrote:
GW can tell I am part of the reason because I regularly bought stuff from their website and I stopped.

Except they can't tell, because when they redesigned their website they threw away all the existing customer records.

£4 Million well spent!

#GreatNews.

For myself, I wouldn't say "I am part of the reason" because I am still buying from GW occassionally...just not directly (usually). Though I am definitely taking steps to move away from GW and envisage a point some time in the future (probably after the last Hobbit film and GW lets the LOTR SBG go OOP).

I recently got the 6th Ed 40K rulebook off ebay (only £11 ). I haven't liked what I've heard about 7th Ed so I won't be getting it. 6th is my final Edition.

Instead of quitting the game entirely, I'm aiming to complete my 40K army (Raven Guard) by collecting up to 4000pts or so. I only want a couple more things to complete the force (Vanguard Veterans, a Stalker and more Drop Pods - which I can get off eBay). I've considered starting 2nd & 3rd 40K armies in the past, like Chaos Space Marines (went so far as to get the 5th Ed book) and Dark Eldar (I'd really like a Wych army with Lililth Hesperax). But the prices and scale creep has put me off.

Instead, I just recently got the Gaunt's Ghosts set (Commissar Gaunt and Tanith Veterans) off eBay. I intend to supplement them with some Border World Rangers from Victoria Miniatures, so I can run a few veteran squads as allies alongside my Raven Guard (probably using 5th Ed rules or the Fandex by Chaos_Seer) instead of collecting a full blown Imperial Guard army. Plus it turns out that the Raven Guard were active in The Sabbat Worlds Crusade, as were the Tanith First and Only, so its a very fluffy combo. Both the Raven Guard and Gaunt's Ghosts specialist in stealth, so its not inconceivable that they would have worked together at some point.

I've got some WIP Anglo Saxons for SAGA/other historical games, and I've got some rulebooks for Bolt Action. Haven't yet decided which army to go for.

Point is, I'm not rage quitting, but I am planning to complete my collections so I can stop buying from GW, and instead start non-GW games.

 Lockark wrote:


But I feel a twitter campaign is being abit over dramatic .

Sorry, I was being a bit overly dramatic there sat on my soapbox don't know what came over me!

Hey, you gotta have some fun here, especially since no matter what we do GW won't notice it anyway!

Shadow Captain Edithae

My off hand comment sparked a movement!

You ringleader you!

nanook wrote:

Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:My off hand comment sparked a movement!

You ringleader you!

If I suddenly go missing from the forums, its because I've gone into hiding. Or because Gamesworkshop found me.

I am the Auld Grump, and... I am part of the reason.

It has been a bit over two years since I last bought a GW model, and I am still taking one day at a time.

The Auld Grump, aw, who am I kidding, I have just switched addictions to cheaper drugs miniatures. Mantic had the first dose for free....

I'm not part of the reason for any recent slump, my total GW spend for the last 10 years is about £50 (and is mostly spray paint and brushes).

Spent about 4 times that on Infinity in the last 3-4 months...

 TheAuldGrump wrote:
I am the Auld Grump, and... I am part of the reason.

It has been a bit over two years since I last bought a GW model, and I am still taking one day at a time.

The Auld Grump, aw, who am I kidding, I have just switched addictions to cheaper drugs miniatures. Mantic had the first dose for free....

So I'm guessing you must not have an addiction to quality then

To be fair, I'll never understand the attraction that people have to Mantic's models. I tried with Deadzone. I really did.

#yawn

I certainly used to throw about a thousand pounds a year on GW stuff up until the end of 5th. I was very disappointed in 6th, got my hopes up for 7th only to have them entirely dashed and much of what I disliked about in 6th doubled down on, then got excited for for the long awaited ork codex... and that put me through the floor. That disappointment didn't even cause anger in me, my interest just stopped. It was the weirdest thing, after so many years loving the game and figures and hating the corporate behavior and pricing... There wasn't anything. I'd bought some forgeworld stuff and it just sat on my desk untouched.


I am getting some interest back, gradually, a tiny amount. But unless something quite massive changes with the company, with the current frankly awful edition rules, I can't see me ever throwing huge swathes of my cash at it any more. It's quite sad really, given how much time and love I've put into these games. Whether GW is on it's last legs, drunkenly veering into wild attempts to glean every last penny or it's going to continue for another hundred glorious years, all I know is my interest is at perhaps the lowest it's been since I started collecting miniatures, at the age of 11, 27 years ago.

I am also keen to look into other options now, because we do find ourselves with many many choices of miniature ranges and games.

The last two things I've bought from GW were the IG codex and 6th ed rules.

Couldn't be arsed to shell out $100 for a minor game update so short after I bought the 6th ed rules. Sold my IG army. Now I'm rebuilding a smaller 3rd party force to keep around as a back up to my re-investment into Firestorm Armada and Planetfall shortly.

When it costs more to update my army with new units and rules than starting an entire new system with a tournament ready force, guess where my money is going.

I'd buy an army of Knights of the prices were easier to stomach. The FW variants are pretty slick, but $200+ is too steep for me now.

#impartofthereason

The last GW product I purchased was a box of Centurions to be hacked into Oblits for my long-suffering chaos army. That was when the box was released, however long ago that was. I haven't bought into 7th ed., nor have a purchased the new Ork codex. That's a zinger for me, as the ork books on my shelf go back to "Ere we go!", and anybody that has seen my man cave has seen the horde of greenskins on the shelves.

I'm out because GW has shown it's hand. They don't care. WHFB jumped the shark when the new edition encouraged little Timmy to field units of 50+ infantry, or 100 skavenslaves or night goblins. No thanks. I held out for 40k, until they started cutting old codices into multiple portions and $erving each up for it's own healthy price tag. Some of the new models look delicious, Nagash is gorgeous, and I'd *love* to chop up a Morkanaut or two and add them to the ranks, but at this point they'll never see a table or a game.

I know I'm beating a long dead horse here, and I haven't said anything new. I just vote with my wallet. Right now Spartan games is getting my 'fun money' budget, and I'm having a blast with my British, Russian, and Chinese fleets. I'm waiting for KD:M to ship, and between that, DW2.0, and my recently acquired Relic Knights minis, my gaming time is enjoyably occupied.

I was part of the reason once GW filed its complaint against Chapterhouse Studios. With the exception of one GW tape measure purchased because it was the only tape measure with centimeters available at hand, I haven't purchased a single GW product since 2011.

 cincydooley wrote:

 TheAuldGrump wrote:
I am the Auld Grump, and... I am part of the reason.

It has been a bit over two years since I last bought a GW model, and I am still taking one day at a time.

The Auld Grump, aw, who am I kidding, I have just switched addictions to cheaper drugs miniatures. Mantic had the first dose for free....

So I'm guessing you must not have an addiction to quality then

To be fair, I'll never understand the attraction that people have to Mantic's models. I tried with Deadzone. I really did.

I'd say I have an addicton to quality models, which is why I'm part of the reason.

I'm spending far more than I care to admit these days and most of it is going to infinity, historicals or places like Noctuna and Scale 75.

I still spend money on GW products, I picked up space hulk from my FLGS, I've been nabbing up old LotR model before they're gone for good and my local blackshirt is actually a cool guy so I try to get into his monthly painting comp. But really GW are getting maybe a fifth of my hobby budget.

Oh, especially when you factor in kickstaters, I have over a thousand dollars worth of stuff I'm hoping to have by the end of the year between Arena Rex and Toughest Girls in the Galaxy.

I bought a 3000 point CSM army in 2013 and a 2000 point IG in 2014 before 7th edition dropped. Now I'm spending what I would have spent on Infinity and WMH. Vote with your wallet people.

I bought Space Hulk. That's it. And that's all I'll be buying. It's a great game with great models, and I feel it's still great value. But things like the stupid Logan Sled? Bad value for a crap model. I feel sorry for anyone with crap taste enough to enjoy that plastic abortion.

I've bought more new GW this year than I have in the last ten. I'm part of a different reason.

 pretre wrote:
I've bought more new GW this year than I have in the last ten. I'm part of a different reason.

Did you buy Santa Logan? Cuz if you did, I will personally come to Washington and slap the gak out of you. For your own good, of course.

I don't want to be part of the reason, but I have been for some 10 years, barring two times during that period. I just can't support a game with such a lousy company behind it. I even stopped going to a FLGS that had only 40k going on, because they offered nothing else to me and I refused to get in on 40k after seeing how bad things had become.

Given they have no active twitter presence(their last tweets are from February, at best, and I think most of those are Feb of earlier years), a twitter campaign would be less than useless.

While I still feel that blaming ourselves is pointless - GW themselves are the reason for all of this - I guess I am part of the reason.

All I've bought from them in the last 2 years has been the new Tyranid codex, a box of Termagants, a plastic Hive Tyrant, and the occasional paint.

Not me, I buy a lot, and in fact I'm currently beginning a Beastmen army and much of it will be bought retail. I buy paints and supplies from third-parties however. Models are all GW, with the exception of a few proxies/scratchbuilds.