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Ongoing rumor tracking for next Necron codex.

The basics:
• due Jan 2015
• minimal update, similar to Gray Knights
• no new kits, but may be new plastic Lord model
• possible plastic repackaging of Destroyers to have bits for Heavy and Destroyer Lords
FoC changes coming for the codex. Focus on different Dynasties making different lists (bonuses granted, certain units "allowed", etc.)

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Lords of Wargaming on FB:
https://www.facebook.com/Lordsofwargaming
"Tons of rumors flying around about Necrons and they are all wrong. The Necrons will only see the release of a Necron lord, no codex will be released."
They later amended that rumor by stating,
"A little bit of correction of the Necron rumors: They will receive a codex, but it will be in January. There will be a major change to FoC in this codex."
Apparently this FoC change has something to do with how your army can be composed, because they follow up with,
"There will be a lot of stuff covering the Dynasties. This is important because they will affect how you can build your armies."
I can't be too specific, but the dynasties will allow certain units to be taken and given certain bonuses.
[UPDATE]
When questioned about the comments, they responded,
The models won't change. Armies will be generated along dynasties. Maybe one focuses on Destroyers and one focuses on immortals and so on.
Almost sounds like something along the lines of Necron chapter tactics.
VERY excited about this potential. (especially if it means we'll be able to see the Destroyer Cults of the Red Harvest outside of Apocalypse games).

Lords Of Wargaming have got a pretty good reputation for accurate rumor tracking, so all other rumors from other sources may require liberal dashes of salt before consuming.

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Bell of Lost Souls
Spoiler:
claims their source says the new 'Cron dex will be a minimal update, similar to the Gray Knights (no surprise there), but unlike the GK, there's supposedly a repackaging of the Destroyers: plastic, with bits to make both Heavy Destroyers AND Destroyer Lords. If the update makes Destroyers worth taking again, this could be an awesome addition.
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2014/08/necrons-codex-whispers.html

The bigger surprise is how early the "above average" source claims the next codex will drop: week of Halloween .
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2014/10/guess-whos-next-for-40k.html

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Faeit
Spoiler:
has an anonymous source who also claims the Necrons are next... but they then go on to post a comment from a user that the current physical codex has been removed from the GW webstore.
http://natfka.blogspot.jp/2014/10/blood-angels-or-necrons.html

As of Oct 5th, the physical copy of the current (5th ed.) codex is still available via the webstore, so Faeit's info isn't exactly watertight.
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-WW/search/searchResults.jsp?searchTerm=necrons

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If anyone knows of any more info, post it here and I'll update the top post with it.
... try to tone it down with the wishlisting in the comments, though.
Only rumors coming from previously established sources will be reposted into the top post.

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A minimal release, ala GK, is pretty much what I am expecting. The update to Destroyers makes sense, though. Maybe a single pose plastic or two. Cryptek would be a good choice for that.

   
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Didn't they already claim Necrons-short-like-Grey Knights for August?

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2014/08/necrons-codex-whispers.html

New talk is doing the rounds on the Necrons coming in the months ahead, on the heels of Grey Knights.



Codexwise: the Necron codex is described as being a minimal updated codex, similar to Grey Knights, crammed into a very short release window.

Models: Unlike Grey Knights there is talk of a new combo-plastic kit for Destroyers which will include the parts for Heavy Destroyers and Necron Destroyer Lords. There is mixed chatter on whether the clear green rod will be replaced with standard plastic.

Timing: Look for these to be coming in Fall.
   
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I think that Michael Scott "PLEASE GOD NOO" is approirate here.


I welcome a remodel of destroyers though. I'm betting we get some minor changes, warlord table, artifacts. Imotekh is made a lord of War... Probably the no tesla on overwatch. I doubt we will get much more than that.

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Wonderwolf wrote:
Didn't they already claim Necrons-short-like-Grey Knights for August?
Yes, but I included the link for completion's sake. (most "recent" collection of rumors)

 Sasori wrote:
I'm betting we get some minor changes, warlord table, artifacts. Imotekh is made a lord of War... Probably the no tesla on overwatch. I doubt we will get much more than that.
I'm most concerned with all that missing FAQ info. CCB and Death Ray clarifications are probably most pressing. There's probably some other major things, too, but exactly what escapes me at the moment.

 
   
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A GK-style release does not surprise me and I am perfectly fine with that.
I honestly don't think we really need new models and I'd be happy if those dozen unplayable units become decent.
My army is around 15.000 points and nearly half of it 'sucks' if I want to stand a chance with my list.

A decent Destroyer-kit would be welcome and classifying those rumours as 'above average' is also interesting.
I also think that a GK-release wouldn't exclude Pariahs or a new Cryptek-box.
   
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Kangodo wrote:
A GK-style release does not surprise me and I am perfectly fine with that.
I honestly don't think we really need new models and I'd be happy if those dozen unplayable units become decent.
My army is around 15.000 points and nearly half of it 'sucks' if I want to stand a chance with my list.

A decent Destroyer-kit would be welcome and classifying those rumours as 'above average' is also interesting.
I also think that a GK-release wouldn't exclude Pariahs or a new Cryptek-box.[/quote

Why would you think a codex update would suddenly make more units useful? That's never what happens :p Some units get buffed, but still half will be garbage.

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Kangodo wrote:
I also think that a GK-release wouldn't exclude Pariahs or a new Cryptek-box.
I don't know, from the sounds of things, I'd be surprised if we got anything more than that Destroyer repack (and even that's being generous, considering this will more than likely be a quick-dex). If Pariahs were coming back, that'd mean new plastic, and so far no one's heard anything about that. More likely, they'll just make Praetorians/Lychguard better, so people end up buying that box.

 
   
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I'd be suprised if there is no plastic lord with the release then again new grey lord or inquisition plastics so I guess we'll see.
   
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Am I right in thinking that all the Necron special characters have a model? If so, I'm thinking the Necron Codex won't be a Diet Codex like the DE and GK books.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Am I right in thinking that all the Necron special characters have a model? If so, I'm thinking the Necron Codex won't be a Diet Codex like the DE and GK books.


Yes, all the Necron SCs have Models.

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Lets not forget that AM, DE, and GK(essentially) all dropped characters with models. Necrons easily can drop the two Cryptek SC and just website exclusive them to being Harbinger Crypteks. Also none of the other characters physically represent anything you can't take as Overlord/lord Wargear. Personally I'm hoping for a return to the bland faceless enemy fluff from 3rd edition. Giving them character and dynasty fluff was the worst part of the 5th ed. codex, IMO.
   
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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Am I right in thinking that all the Necron special characters have a model? If so, I'm thinking the Necron Codex won't be a Diet Codex like the DE and GK books.
Yes, you are right!

 Kirasu wrote:
Why would you think a codex update would suddenly make more units useful? That's never what happens :p Some units get buffed, but still half will be garbage.

Because despite all the doomsday-talk on this forum I am actually quite pleased with the recent codices and that's what I have seen with the other releases.

There are multiple levels of garbage.
There is the "Unit X in the same Codex is way better, so this is garbage".
And then we have the "Lol, you are paying 40 points for a T5 with 3+ model"-garbage.

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 NecronLord3 wrote:
Lets not forget that AM, DE, and GK(essentially) all dropped characters with models. Necrons easily can drop the two Cryptek SC and just website exclusive them to being Harbinger Crypteks. Also none of the other characters physically represent anything you can't take as Overlord/lord Wargear. Personally I'm hoping for a return to the bland faceless enemy fluff from 3rd edition. Giving them character and dynasty fluff was the worst part of the 5th ed. codex, IMO.


What characters had models that were dropped from the 6/7th AM, DE and GK Codex? I'm pretty sure any characters there in the 5th edition, when they were updated that had models, stayed in....

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Sly Marbo, Al Rahim, Vect, all the inquisition characters(like I said essentially) I think there were more AM characters(don't play the army). Thawn and Mordrak also had models easily made from the plastic Terminator kits, it just wasn't spelled out for you like Nork Dedog.


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Weren't those all really old models, that by today's standards are "hideous"? Obviously some people still like them, but most kitbashed their own. The necron ones are all brand new to the 5th codex. I don't think you'll see those disappear. GW isn't that stupid.

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 NecronLord3 wrote:
Sly Marbo, Al Rahim, Vect, all the inquisition characters(like I said essentially) I think there were more AM characters(don't play the army). Thawn and Mordrak also had models easily made from the plastic Terminator kits, it just wasn't spelled out for you like Nork Dedog.


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I don't remember any of those models being available during their 5th edition codexes.

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 timetowaste85 wrote:
Weren't those all really old models, that by today's standards are "hideous"? Obviously some people still like them, but most kitbashed their own. The necron ones are all brand new to the 5th codex. I don't think you'll see those disappear. GW isn't that stupid.


I like the fact Necrons are like an fractured ancient empire clawing it's way back. But I liked the old background also

The characters are quite cool and I really don't think any will disappear, we might get a clampack with a cryptek or Lord but I don't know.

If we get a destoyer repack that's good.

I've converted several crypteks for the various disciplines so I'm hoping they stay at least. Though considering I play a second ed version of the rules it doesn't make much difference to myself what they do.

   
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Pariahs should get a revival. But I highly doubt it.
Destroyers need to become cheaper to be useful.

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I'd personally love if pariahs returned but I honestly doubt they will.
   
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 skoffs wrote:
Faeit has an anonymous source who also claims the Necrons are next... but they then go on to post a comment from a user that the current physical codex has been removed from the GW webstore.
http://natfka.blogspot.jp/2014/10/blood-angels-or-necrons.html

As of Oct 5th, the physical copy of the current (5th ed.) codex is still available via the webstore, so Faeit's info isn't exactly watertight.
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-WW/search/searchResults.jsp?searchTerm=necrons

This same 'rumor' popped up months ago just because someone at GW messed up and didn't put it in the Necron section but it is in the general Codex section.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/609472/7121818.page

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I'd also love Pariahs to return, perhaps as a 3rd option in the Royal Court besides Lords and Crypteks.

I'm also hoping that Necrons get a rules balance on par with Dark Eldar.
   
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This just sounds like an educated guess from the "rumormongers" involved.

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 Sasori wrote:
 NecronLord3 wrote:
Sly Marbo, Al Rahim, Vect, all the inquisition characters(like I said essentially) I think there were more AM characters(don't play the army). Thawn and Mordrak also had models easily made from the plastic Terminator kits, it just wasn't spelled out for you like Nork Dedog.


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I don't remember any of those models being available during their 5th edition codexes.


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A destroyer repack would be nice but I don't see it as it would require cutting a new sprue for an existing unit just to add a gun and maybe a staff.

I'd think we'd sooner see Flayed Ones since those are the only non-plastic units in the range aside from characters or Crypteks.

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 Breotan wrote:
A destroyer repack would be nice but I don't see it as it would require cutting a new sprue for an existing unit just to add a gun and maybe a staff.

I'd think we'd sooner see Flayed Ones since those are the only non-plastic units in the range aside from characters or Crypteks.



A new kit for Destroyers would let them add some more weapon options, and as a kit, let them sell it as a 3 pack rather than singles, and remove the finecast lord and heavy destroyer upgrade bits. Destroyers are one of the few remaining hybrid kits out there, so I expect them to go away.
   
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My two cents:
Model Side
Flayed ones were new sculpts with the 5th ed codex... I double that they are going to get redone in plastic... honestly, it makes for sense to sell a $50 plastic box to make all the various C'Tan (crossing my fingers for C'Tan with wings... FMC)... not that I expect that to happen.
Plastic destroyers (3 to a box for $60) makes sense... let's hope that the rules improve as well.
Multi-piece, clampack crypteks would fly off the shelves (think the Ork Mek sprue with 2-3 staff head options).
No more than 1 unit redone and 1 Clamshell character

Rules:
I expect the Lychguard/Praetorians to see a price drop.
I expect to see MSS get dropped or a huge nerf.
I expect flayed ones to see a buff. (But who am I kidding... they still will suck unless that can assault the turn they hit the table... and nothing can do that anymore)
I expect Tesla to see an across the board nerf... most likely no extra hits on snap-shots but who knows.
I expect our transports to get a price increase... I expect our fliers to get a big price increase.
I expect our C'Tan shards to have a price decrease.

Seeing how Tyranids and Orks got crippling leadership abilities... I almost expect Phase Out to come back.
"Opps... your unit of Warriors failed a morale check... POOF they are gone" kind of thing.

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 Anpu-adom wrote:
Seeing how Tyranids and Orks got crippling leadership abilities... I almost expect Phase Out to come back.
"Opps... your unit of Warriors failed a morale check... POOF they are gone" kind of thing.


Nonsense. There will be a Phase Out Chart, so that whenever you fail an Ld test you can roll randomly cinematically to find out what happens to your unit.

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So with our sources being Vela and Natfka, we can just shut this thread down right?

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 pretre wrote:
So with our sources being Vela and Natfka, we can just shut this thread down right?

Why? It does seem likely that the Necrons are next as they are the LAST non marine army (other then Eldar) who are a power house, and GW will want to Nerf them...

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