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LOL, Kinda reminds me of the posts a few here make. lol Entertaining but unfortunately, I am sure some of thos actually happen. Come on, I know a few of you guys do this (restraining from saying names is very difficult so I'll end the post here).
Definately entertaining. The facial expressions make it.
clively wrote: "EVIL INC" - hardly. More like "REASONABLE GOOD GUY INC". (side note: exalted)
God guys, stop making fun of competitive players who use actual STRATEGY in their games. Bunch of nerds trying to redefine the word "competition" to mean anything but WIN EVERY TIME.
"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"
"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"
"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"
"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!"
the_scotsman wrote: God guys, stop making fun of competitive players who use actual STRATEGY in their games. Bunch of nerds trying to redefine the word "competition" to mean anything but WIN EVERY TIME.
While I do see this sometimes (check my sig) this thread has absolutely no examples of it and is just some harmless fun. Get over it.
P.S.A. I won't read your posts if you break it into a million separate quotes and make an eyesore of it.
There were a few things he missed, like making sure to forget the same minor rule several times in a row, or missing several at the same time so that your opponent lets one or two slip through.
That and the semantic shuffle, where you pick some obscure definition of a word in a rule which lets you basically rewrite the rule in your favor, and then vigorously defend your definition until your opponent gives up.
And undermining your opponent by always making vague negative comments on everything he does, like "oops" and "interesting..."
In any case, this is pretty minor league WAAC stuff. If he really wanted to insure the win, he'd be willing to poison people or get the police involved in one way or another. It counts a forfeit if your opponent ends the game early due to getting arrested.
curran12 wrote: Scotsman, I think you need to step back and get a few breaths. Not everything is an attack on things.
Tiny plastic army men are serious business you scrub ! Those were legitimate tactics showcased in that video, and I will not stand aside while this....this festering legion of scrub lords DEFILES my strategic mastery of war simulationing!
I haven't been this mad since the last time someone dared to be female on the internet!
"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"
"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"
"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"
"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!"
EVIL INC wrote: I have seen players use the "semantic shuffle" and the negative comments.
Or the fake polite version of it. You pick a way of reading things that makes the rule not make sense anymore, and then you go all like "Oh, it doesn't make sense, I'm so confused. Silly GW, I wish they'd just write rules better. Oh well, if there's no way it's supposed to be, then I guess we can just use my way of interpreting it."
And then if your opponent disagrees with you, you get to redirect to an invisible third party.
Sort of like how people used to cheat the challenge system, or the "use the base the model came with" abuse.
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Genuinely forgetting the rules doesn't seem like a good way to win a game. It's much better if you know the rules well so that you know what the most opportune time to "forget" them is.
jreilly89 wrote: Hey guys, thought you'd get a kick out of this.
More or less how games look here. There is no turning off lights, but people offten bend while puting models in their case to knock the models on the table off.
He missed the one were you pick up the "Hits" instead of the "Misses", leaving less dice on the table and netting you more Hits than were actually rolled. If my opponent does this, I politely ask them to only pick up Misses so I can confirm the Hits, or will count every picked up Die as a Miss. That cheat tends to come back quite a bit.
Another common cheat is sliding or dropping the dice, rather than rolling. Personally, I'm pretty good at sliding 6's across the table, so my group instituted a "if it didn't roll, it's a miss" house rule.
As to the Off-the-Table dice rolling, my gaming group instituted a "If it hits the floor, it's an auto-miss, non-re-rollable" house rule, because we had a guy that always did this.
And finally, there's the "snapping measuring tap" cheat, where when measuring, you snap the ruler shut before immediately moving or shooting, so your opponent doesn't varify the measurement was wrong. For moving, once the models are moved, its easy to not put them back exactly where they started if called out, so you gain movement regardless. For shooting, its a bit ballsier as your opponent can counter measure, but most people won't if you snap measure all your units, then start shooting. It plays on people's inability to remember more than few things at the same time. The only counter to this is for your opponent to be "that guy" and re-measure every declared shooting, slowing down the game and making them seem like its them being unreasonable. If I see my opponent doing this, I ignore their attack until they re-measure correctly before each unit attacks, because I am "that guy".
SJ
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“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world.”
- Ephesians 6:12
Vigilant wrote: If someone did that to me. I would follow them out to their car and handle things old school...
I'm sure you would.
I would. Cheaters need to be taught a lesson. Be a man about it, 9 times out of 10 cheaters will show their true colors and cower. If they do try to test me, they get taught a harsh lesson. I'm not a small scrawny tabletop nerd. I'm a 6'2" 230 lb working man, with shoulders that fill a doors width. Haha.
That being said, the video was pretty funny. Dave has been getting kind of full of himself lately. His older vids were way funnier. Before. All. The. Crazy. Editing. Every. Other. Second. Lol.
I am the watcher now the night. I am ever Vigilant...
Vigilant wrote: If someone did that to me. I would follow them out to their car and handle things old school...
I'm sure you would.
I would. Cheaters need to be taught a lesson. Be a man about it, 9 times out of 10 cheaters will show their true colors and cower. If they do try to test me, they get taught a harsh lesson. I'm not a small scrawny tabletop nerd. I'm a 6'2" 230 lb working man, with shoulders that fill a doors width. Haha.
That being said, the video was pretty funny. Dave has been getting kind of full of himself lately. His older vids were way funnier. Before. All. The. Crazy. Editing. Every. Other. Second. Lol.
Oh wow, you're a big man. "I can't express myself through words, so I'll use my fists!" Please. A) It's a joke video and B) if you beat people up over 40k, you're more pathetic than the cheatingest of cheaters
Automatically Appended Next Post: By the way, for those who were too zealous to notice, this is a joke. C'mon guys.
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I would happily let you hit me so I could have you arrested for aggravated assault, and sue you for damages, because America!
SJ
<semi-joke, litigation is our national past time>
“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world.”
- Ephesians 6:12
Jreilly89, It shouldn't matter if it's a tabletop game, a video game, in line at the store, work, or school. Letting someone screw you while you lay there and take it, that's what's truly pathetic.
I know it's a joke, that's why I mentioned it was funny.
I don't beat people up either pal, I just don't let them shaft me. If I need to use something more than words to stop abusive people. So be it.
I am the watcher now the night. I am ever Vigilant...
Vigilant wrote: Jreilly89, It shouldn't matter if it's a tabletop game, a video game, in line at the store, work, or school. Letting someone screw you while you lay there and take it, that's what's truly pathetic.
I know it's a joke, that's why I mentioned it was funny.
I don't beat people up either pal, I just don't let them shaft me. If I need to use something more than words to stop abusive people. So be it.
Cheating at 40k is abusive? Good to know, I'll call my lawyer. I have a lot of lawsuits to start. Also, good to know you always treat the smallest of things with the utmost importance. Sounds like you [/i]really[i] have your priorities in order.
I posted a joke post in a tactics thread that was discussing jedi mind tricks as a forumula for success. Keep in mind it's a joke :p (and a repost).
Spoiler:
I've won every game I've played my record is really big. I could probably offer some valuable insight in this thread.
The first thing I would recommend is acquire the best models in the game at the moment. You really want to make sure you've bought the best models with the best stats and the fewest drawbacks.
A lot of times I try to size up my opponents. I try to make sure I pick someone who looks like they don't know all the rules, perhaps someone who looks like they can be bullied into a rules arguement roll off. I also look for poor people who I know can't possibly have the best units in the game becauae they look like they struggle to feed the seven year old they brought with them. Playing people who have there families there to is a good idea because they will likely concede after I've wasted oodles of time talking about rules. Usually a good idea to pick a smoker so I can have my friend move models around the table while we are BSing on a smoke break. One thing is for certain is that I try to avoid competitive players and avoid competitive events.
Its usually a good idea to just cheat to. Like when I move a vehicle you can typically pickup two inches by simply sliding the tape forward slowly while you move the model. If you can't get bonus pen range on melta that way just pivot the model excessively.. slowly placing it each time closer to the destination. Be sure to be subtle about it, this is also good for wasting time with impatient opponents. If you cant get range by then just lie about the range on your melta or just claim its a multi melta. I've had a lot of success with adding extra points to my lists to, especially with the newwer crowd. Often times I add gear to my models and vehicles and just conveniently forget to add it. Its often a good idea to try and claim transports that aren't a DT are indeed a DT to help free up FOC slots.
Its also important to paint all your models the same. You really want to be able to lose track of your units when they stand side by side so you can forget which models were in which unit and play shenanigens with removing models, squad sizes, ld checks etc.. Also good for mixing up and confusing the contents of identical transports.
Be clumsy. If you know the unit you are shooting at is melee based go ahead and accidentally bump his models with the tape when measuring for shots. The right kind of work can put an assault out of range if the overwatch you've buffed to BS2 doesnt.
Forget your codex.. I mean claim you have memorized it but dont bring it to the table. Was your BS 3 or 4? Oh wait.. definately six and Twin Linked. Its also a good idea to increase the shots on all weapon profiles by one. Sell your friends on needing to repair your codex's flaws and then overbuff things.
Model to your advantage, hack bases of skimmers make troops kneeling. Make terrain that compliments your armies playstyle etc..
The next thing I recommend is dismissing every loss and not counting it for reasons like a bad roll, an opponent that may be better at cheating than me, or just a stuffy nose. Also, count every victory an extra D6 times.
You could also play Orkz, because orkz never lose, because they can run and come back for unuver go see?
This has been a non serious post meant to be for giggles or mean, depending on your humor. I don't actually do these things and am usually a joy to play with and felt like making a poo here in a thread quoting a strong record sighting Jedimindtricks as a formula for success.
and felt it would be relevant here :p
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I am the kinda ork that takes his own washing machine apart, puts new bearings in it, then puts it back together, and it still works.
Scares me to think these guys are just down the road from me.
Who knew what evil lurked in Welland Ontario...
What is not so funny is he is giving voice to a minority of people that actually think a bit like this: "no-one is allowed to get the "better" of me at all costs!".
I agree these tricks are pretty weak from what I have seen used.
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