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What everyone Expects




What everyone wants



What we will get instead

I laughed.

Hope you get some new kits in the new year. And not jump-the-shark kits either.

So SOB players want a combi melta/flamer?

confused?

Fortress plane has been done, but they're crying out for a fortress tank or skimmer or walker

Probably a mega glass cannon fast attack choice and a powerful but overpriced heavy support

Oh and the exorcist will likely get a dumbing down

 Mr. Burning wrote:
So SOB players want a combi melta/flamer?

confused?

No. A combi-flamer-melta-bolter. So you can cleanse, burn and purge all at the same time:


(not my picture)


I must admit I'd like to see some Sisters plastics, or at least a suitable 3rd party alternative, as they are currently the only Imperial faction I don't own. I'm thinking they may be some conversion potential when Dreamforge get round to releasing the Black Widows.

I dunno, I'm pretty stoked about Sarah Palin riding a T-Rex!

 Accolade wrote:
I dunno, I'm pretty stoke about Sarah Palin riding a T-Rex!

I would field the hell out of that!

I'm pretty sure I don't want Sisters with man hands on Popeye forearms.

I'll just stick with the metals I currently own.

No Problem you can stay with the metal ones and charge 10000 for 2000 points while we build our t rexes:-)

Unless Jes Goodwin sculpts the entire range (a lá Dark Eldar) and the current rules writers are struck by divine inspiration, I say leave the Sisters alone. At this point in GW's history, nothing good will come of it, otherwise. We'll get Sister Menses Menstralclaws wielding the Sword of the Cycle, riding a giant maxi-pad pulled by penitent engines. And a giant Spaceballs Mega-Maid superheavy-walker kit because reasons...

Some conversion potential here I think. Obviously they'll need scrollwork, tabards and a skull or two, but I think it could work.

I just want a decent heavy support choice, a HARDBACK codex, plastics and a little rework for 'acts of faith' for my bolter bitches

 Josey4u wrote:
I just want a decent heavy support choice, a HARDBACK codex, plastics and a little rework for 'acts of faith' for my bolter bitches

You don't find either Exorcists nor Retributors decent HS choices?!? I do agree about having an actual hardback codex.

 the_Armyman wrote:
Sister Menses Menstralclaws wielding the Sword of the Cycle, riding a giant maxi-pad pulled by penitent engines. And a giant Spaceballs Mega-Maid superheavy-walker kit because reasons...

Sign me up for the Megaforce deal.

What I find odd is how much love they still seem to have for Sororitas. I got the Leviathan: Shield of Bhaal today and the artwork is just "DAYUM! THIS IS AWESOME". Just translate that artwork into Sororitas, damn it :(

There is a very small number of people who very much love Sisters. The problem is that their supporters are very, very few, and they don't buy much stuff.

If I wanted to make Sisters work, I'd relaunch them in plastic against Dark Eldar in a future boxed "starter" set. Otherwise, fold them under another Imperial army (Guard / Inquisition) and move on.

Still, at least they're available, and that's far better than Chaos Dwarves or Dogs of War.

It's very hard to blame low demand for models on the player base when GW hasn't released new models for, um, a decade?

It is easy to blame the players when we didn't buy the models when the were released in 2nd, and 3rd, etc.

That's why I say we're very lucky GW hasn't Squatted our Sisters.

From a pure business standpoint, GW probably should have pulled the plug back in 4th edition. But obviously, they have some strong champions in the studio that are keeping them on life support.

Of course, there's no money for new models, but better than being Squatted!

At the time I was interested in getting into the army, but the limited range + higher prices than the normal stuff put me off. Now its all just pants on head running in circles crazy prices. The slasher sisters become more of a negative the more i see them. Really, what the hell was gw thinking when they came up with repentia?

 Mr. Burning wrote:
So SOB players want a combi melta/flamer?

confused?

No. Two combi melta-flamers. In pistol versions. Hold by a canoness with a jump-pack. With a rule to fire them in close combat and the Hit and Run rule. Like Cypher. Only better because jumppack and flamethrowers.

 SisterSydney wrote:
It's very hard to blame low demand for models on the player base when GW hasn't released new models for, um, a decade?

Maybe they didn't release new models for a decade because there was low demand for them a decade ago?


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JohnHwangDD wrote:
From a pure business standpoint, GW probably should have pulled the plug back in 4th edition. But obviously, they have some strong champions in the studio that are keeping them on life support.

Of course, there's no money for new models, but better than being Squatted!

Not really. What they're doing works well. It's low cost (the 6th Edition Codex was recycled fluff from White Dwarf and recycled art from FFG and previous books), and was packaged into an e-book that has no carrying cost. Easy revenue, and it allows existing players to continue using their models with the updated ruleset, which is good customer service.

I have said this several times now about the sisters.

The reason they do not sell well is because GW doesn't support them. It is a self fulling prophecy. Their 3rd codex was shared with Inq and received no plastic troops. When that somehow didn't sell models GW then decided to take them out of stores. So GW then didn't bother to update them for nearly a decade only to give them a list in WD. Gosh could you believe that not updating the models to plastic, taking them off store shelves and giving them a WD codex list would somehow hurt sales? I mean surely this should have helped. So GW updated us to a digital edex with no model support and cranked the prices to stupid but can you believe that this still didn't sell many models????

Now look at the DE reboot. Unpopular army that wasn't updated for an extremely long time and was taken off store shelves sold poorly. Then GW updates them with a full size print book and re-do's the entire line. Oh look they are starting to sell now and become more popular. I mean who would have thought supporting the army in stores with a full line of models including lots of plastic kits would help sales?

The reason sob sell poorly is because GW can't be bothered to support them and put some effort into them.

The few people who have sob armies also don't buy much because there isn't much to buy. After you buy a couple of squads of boltgun sisters, seraphim, several transports, exorcists and sprinkle special weapons to taste you don't need any more. For a decent 7ed list all you need is boltgun, flamer/heavy flamers, meltaguns sisters with a few rhino's and immolators backed by exorcists and a special character to taste. You don't even need seraphim now a days to have a good list(although I love them and always field a squad in every game).

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
It is easy to blame the players when we didn't buy the models when the were released in 2nd, and 3rd, etc.

Easy, but silly.

The 2nd edition codex was released, with very little fanfare, three and a half minutes before 3rd edition came along and rendered it obsolete. We already knew that 3rd ed was coming by that point, and so nobody bought it because they didn't know how much 3rd ed was going to change things.

Sisters then languished through 3rd edition, and were once again released as an afterthought right at the end of 3rd edition... It's not surprising if people were a little reluctant to jump on the bandwagon when it had already been tipped over once before.



From the start, Sisters were a battleground between the studio and the beancounters... There have been several comments made over the years to the effect that the studio has wanted to do more with them, but have had to fight just to keep them in the game because the accountants didn't consider them a viable line.

Veteran Sergeant, I'm grateful for the codex we got, believe me. But I still want more... and keep homebrewing it. So what I really wish for 2015 is for GW to rip me off, because, hey, I was playing with their IP anyway, right?

Commanders of the Faithful: Brutal New HQs for the Adepta Sororitas
Vigils, Thrones, & Novices: Infiltrators, Bikers, & Child Soldiers for the Adepta Sororitas
Queen of Battles: Artillery & Alternative Exorcist Ammo for the Adepta Sororitas
Tank Heaven For Little Girls, II: Sororitas Vindicta, Predator, Oriflamme, Deliverer Assault Shrine
Fly Girls: BS4, Sv6++ Sororitas Valkyrie variants, Flying Exorcists, & Sister-ized Avenger

That's not all of it, but it'll do for now....

Knock off Terminator movie robots were released in metal at the tail of 2nd and didn't figure much in 3rd. They were uglier, and more expensive than Sisters, but look at them now.

JohnHwangDD wrote:From a pure business standpoint, GW probably should have pulled the plug back in 4th edition. But obviously, they have some strong champions in the studio that are keeping them on life support.

Or had. Andy Hoare no longer works in the studio, as far as I know, and he was the one who kept championing them, from what I gathered at the old yahoo group he used to frequent.
Which explains a lot about what GW did with the Sisters over the past years, if you think about it.

I've actually gotten to a point where I'm thinking they should just squat them - this "neither here nor there" approach just makes it harder to let go.

Torga_DW wrote:The slasher sisters become more of a negative the more i see them. Really, what the hell was gw thinking when they came up with repentia?

Nothing wrong with Repentia - they suit the faction mindset perfectly and are yet another real life reference.
That said, I actually do consider the very first version to be more badass. But I think that's just because she was an independent character rather than a unit, and because of her very fitting special ability.

 MrFlutterPie wrote:

The reason sob sell poorly is because GW can't be bothered to support them and put some effort into them. hates girls.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
Knock off Terminator movie robots were released in metal at the tail of 2nd and didn't figure much in 3rd. They were uglier, and more expensive than Sisters, but look at them now.

The initial Necron release was much earlier. There were two releases in 2nd edition... The initial lot which just had Warriors, Scarabs and possibly the Lord, and then a later update which added in Immortals and Destroyers.

Presumably the extra effort they've had put into them since then would be down to either them selling better, or the accountants seeing more potential sales in them.

 MrFlutterPie wrote:

 Accolade wrote:
I dunno, I'm pretty stoke about Sarah Palin riding a T-Rex!

I would field the hell out of that!

Well, you can watch the hell out of that soon enough: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG2utrMwTyY

Seriously, I wish the sisters players best of luck with any new models. About now, even Palin on a T-Rex would be welcome I think, especially with that tripple-combi-boltflamelter

I would be happy with a hardback version of the digi dex at the point. Plastic sisters would certainly make me open my wallet too.

A full revamp would be awesome, it's good to know we haven't been completely forgotten with nods to the faction in the latest campaign book, but it's no substitute for a full release.

D