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2014/11/19 14:09:37
Subject: [1000-1500] - Chaos newbie
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Hi, I have recently go back in to 40k and am currently putting together a CSM army and would like some help putting together a coherent army list. Currently I have;
HQ
Lord (From DV)
Lord/ Sorcerer in Terminator armour*
Bike Conversion (Lord/Champion)
Kharn the betrayer
Troops
Cultists (x20)
Chaos Marines (x10)
Elites
Chaos Terminators (x13)
Chosen (x7, inc. 2 aspiring champions)
Hellbrute (x2)
12x Bezerkers
Dedicated Transport
Rhino (x1)
Fast
Bikes (x8, of which 1xChampion/Lord)
Raptors/Warp Talons (x5)*
Heavy
Havocs (x5)
Mauler/Forgefiend (x1)*
*I haven’t made these models yet so am open to sugestions, currently I am thinking Lord, Raptors and mauler
I have a kind of World Eaters/ Khorne theme going and would like help with putting this in to a list and some basic tactics.
Any help at all will be greatly appreciated. Thanks dakka
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2014/11/19 21:46:31
Subject: [1000-1500] - Chaos newbie
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Sneaky Striking Scorpion
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I see the potential for this to be a quick, harsh attacking army with some fire support, although my advice is secondary as I play Nurgle with Khorne allies. If you want to, you could get a Chaos Land Raider and put Kharn and all of the Bezerkers in it. This makes a good iron fist unit. I would also suggest Raptors over WT through past experience. A Lord in Termie armour could go with some MoK Termies kitted out with good cc weapons, and he could have the Axe of Blind Fury.
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There's no turning back... Triumph or oblivion. |
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2014/11/20 00:14:02
Subject: [1000-1500] - Chaos newbie
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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Main: CSM
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Kharn
Elite:
Chosen without rhino = useless
Troops
9 KB in rhino. Seriously need more rhino (Kharn goes here)
10 CSM, 2 plasma guns foot slog behind the rhino. if you had rhino, then 2 melta gunners
10 Cultist (no upgrades)
Fast:
Raptors, 2 melta but dont bother making
Heavies:
Proxy Termi as Oblitz
3xOblitz
3x Oblitz
3x Oblitz
Allies: Crimson Slaughter
Biker Lord, pf+lc, daemon heart
Elite:
3 Helbrutes, mm and pf, in Mayhem Formation from data slate which allows deepstrike.
10 Cultist (consider combining from main to create 20 man blog)
7 Bikers, 2 melta gunners
Heavy:
3x Oblitz
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2014/11/20 11:52:32
Subject: [1000-1500] - Chaos newbie
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Annoyed Blood Angel Devastator
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mark of khorne bikers with a lord with axe of blind fury are horrifying in cc. take a squad of 8ish or more and watch as they charge and decimate most squads in a single charge...
if you want to use beserkers/khorne termies your only real choice is a LR although I hate land raiders in general so ya your choice...
I use the helcult (20 cultists with fearless & 1 hellbrute with a cover save from the cultists) 200pts alot and I find it works very well.
You could also try khorne raptors (but they're pretty much just assault marines with extra attacks/+1 str on the charge and ALOT more expensive with the toys added)...
for shooting support you can take havocs (i prefer preds but if you dont have the models, havocs will do). or a terminator squad ds with combi-weapons & heavy flamer/reaper ac for some mass wound shooting and after the DS turn you've got another CC threat up the board supporting your bikers/zerkers/maulerfiend ect.
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We are the sons of Sanguinius, the protectors of Mankind. Aye, we are indeed the Angels of Death.
Angels Redemptive: 5000 pts
Plague Legion: 2000 pts |
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2014/11/20 14:13:33
Subject: [1000-1500] - Chaos newbie
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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At 1000 points, I would structure an army around the following:
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CL with Bike, Sigil of Corruption, MoN, Black Mace
Troops:
CSM x10 with Plasma guns and Rhino
20 cultists
FA:
5 Bikers, MoN
HS:
3x Obliterators
This gives you some long range shooting and durable bikers who are going to hit hard when they get the charge. Your CSMs are going to get a little protection with the Rhino, but it's not going to last long. From there, you can decide whether you want more dakka (forgefiend, more obliterators) or more cc troops (terminators, raptors).
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2014/11/20 14:54:00
Subject: [1000-1500] - Chaos newbie
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Thanks for the help guys. Much appreciated. Looks like I might need to get myself some oblitartors as they seem a popular choice. I'll let you know how I get on.
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2014/11/20 15:47:02
Subject: [1000-1500] - Chaos newbie
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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No you do not. Just convert your termi into oblitz.
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2014/11/20 16:34:55
Subject: [1000-1500] - Chaos newbie
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Primered White
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I'm putting a vote in for raptors.
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2014/11/21 08:52:27
Subject: [1000-1500] - Chaos newbie
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Annoyed Blood Angel Devastator
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oblitz are far to expensive.... 3 shotsof a las or multi-melta or plasma cannon for 200+ points is not worth it... but others would disagree...
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We are the sons of Sanguinius, the protectors of Mankind. Aye, we are indeed the Angels of Death.
Angels Redemptive: 5000 pts
Plague Legion: 2000 pts |
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2014/11/21 23:54:52
Subject: [1000-1500] - Chaos newbie
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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You pay for versatility. One turn, you shoot lascannons at tanks, on their turn they move tanks into cover, your next turn you can move 6" thanks to relentless and shoot the plasma cannon (rarity for CSM) on TEq or infantry blobs caught in the open, You move another 6" but this time you get sights on tanks and shoot with lascannons, repeat.
Or you ds them like termi if you definate have too to use heavy flamers in a squad of snipers in cover or treat them like expensive melta termicide if you have to. Has the advantage of Assault Cannons which rend and high out volume of shots. Can have twin linked plasma guns to avoid gets hot.
If you only want lascannons, then get tri-laspred for minimal points at 155pts or get havocs with lascannons at same points but is vulnerable so it needs more bodies which makes it cost as much as 200pts.
If you used term as is. Then definitely spam melta termicide. Are you able to choose different power weapons for different opponents in tournaments? Like if you fight GEq such as orks and eldar, can you pick and spam power mauls? You next opponent is MEq, can you pick and spam power sword?
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2014/11/22 00:00:57
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