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A long time ago in a galaxy far, far, away...

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TERMINATOR GENISYS

In the ravaged wasteland left after the nuclear holocaust of Judgment Day, the Human Resistance, led by the legendary John Connor, is locked in a desperate conflict against Skynet’s pitiless machines.

Who will ultimately survive in The War Against the Machines?

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Contents:
Full-colour rulebook: 128 pages
Exclusive metal Kyle Reese model
10 Terminator Endoskeletons
5 Terminator Crawlers
16 Resistance Soldiers
Quickstart rules
Card scenery and tokens
Double-sided gaming mat
Rules reference sheet
13 colour-coded dice
Fate die

GBP 70.00 / USD 112.00
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Full Wargames System!

The War Against the Machines opens up a whole world of Terminator Genisys wargaming.

The Endoskeletons and Human Restistance fighters in the main set will plunge you straight into the desperate battle for survival - but this is just the start.

• Advanced Rules covering commanders, different weapons, vehicles, transports and even VTOLs such as Hunter-Killer Gunships.

• Battle Scenarios - a matrix of 36 balanced games.

• Force Lists. Statlines and special rules for all models and weapons of the Human Resistance and Skynet’s Machines.

• Narrative Scenarios - recreating the events of the War Against the Machines.

More to Come...

Over the coming months, we'll be releasing lots more for Terminator Genisys, including:

• Special character models of all the main characters.

• Reinforcement sets to expand your forces.

• Command and special weapon models for the Endoskeletons.




Saw this over on Beasts of War and didn't see a thread here yet...

January 2, 2015 in Featured, SciFi, The Terminator by brennon

So we had a look at the teaser trailer for the movie not long ago and speculated as to the future of the miniatures game for us to play out the battles against Skynet on the tabletop. Well, it looks like that might become a reality this year…

Well there’s already a few clues to go on that’s for sure. The first is the little River Horse stamp in the corner. This means we’ve got the mind of Alessio Cavatore behind this for sure. Away from that the game seems centred on the Terminator Genisys film that’s coming out so it’s probably going to develop some of the big military engagements we see in that film. With Cavatore at the helm we could potentially see his trademark ‘easy to learn, hard to master’ rules set being a thing as well. It will be interesting to see how this one develops!


Not much to go on yet, but as there seem to be a miniatures range associated to it I could be all over it... Being a Fox IP and given the AvP kickstarter delays due to the laborious approval process, I suspect 'Summer 2015' may become 'Summer 2016' My bad - this is apparently a Paramount/Sundance IP...

Still who wouldn't want an army of T-800s stomping over human skulls (oh wait - GW have both of those..)

I'll be back (with more updates as they come in...)

UPDATE: 7 Jan 2015

Announcement: Terminator Genisys – The Miniatures Game

We are very excited to announce that Warlord Games will be the exclusive distributor for the forthcoming Terminator Genisys Miniatures Game.

Produced by River Horse and written by Bolt Action author Alessio Cavatore, it will be a 28mm skirmish game pitting the Human Resistance led by John Connor against the Machines of Skynet.

The boxed set – War Against the Machines – is due for release in the Summer to coincide with the new movie...


UPDATE 22 Jan 2015

Info from the BoW Google Hangout held on 21 Jan '15 kindly provided by NoggintheNog
NoggintheNog wrote:
I watched it.

The boxed starter game will be 10 terminators versus 16 humans plus human hero.

Models are hard plastic, done by renedra, they only showed the terminators, they look a little static but were decent quality.

Heroes for both sides will likely be resin.

Besides the starter box, there will be hero clampacks and boxed additional plastic forces, with larger models such as vehicles coming later.

The game used poly dice, d4, 8, 12 and 20's, plus another dice he called a 'fate dice' (custom D6) to determine activation order. He designed bolt Action so think of a variation on that sort of turn mechanism.

The boxed set – War Against the Machines – is due for release in the Summer to coincide with the new movie…


Unfortunately, due to IP restrictions, the images shown on the Google Hangout cannot be previewed elsewhere at this time:
warzan said: On January 21, 2015

Sorry guys this was a live one only.

Their contract with FOX stipulates it can’t be viewable after because of imagery we were able to show live.

They will let us know when we can set it public again

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 Ruglud wrote:


Not much to go on yet, but as there seem to be a miniatures range associated to it I could be all over it... Being a Fox IP and given the AvP kickstarter delays due to the laborious approval process, I suspect 'Summer 2015' may become 'Summer 2016'

Still who wouldn't want an army of T-800s stomping over human skulls (oh wait - GW have both of those..)

I'll be back (with more updates as they come in...)


Yes Necrons are cool. You have something like this...



But then I think, Prodos have managed to do this from AvP..and how awesome the miniatures look..



And I think what might be possible with this!



Even with just the license this has already become my 'most anticipated KS of 2015', closely behind the Conan game. I've now placed myself in the position of being massively disappointed if it isn't perfect!

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Hah, yeah - the horror that is Necrons... If Prodos got in on the sculpting I would imagine the final minis would be 'blow your head off' awesome...

I also agree, please don't let this game disappoint...

   
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 Ruglud wrote:
I also agree, please don't let this game disappoint...

Given how badly River Horse fethed up chess, I wouldn't hold your breath.

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 Ruglud wrote:
... Being a Fox IP ...


Paramount and Skydance productions have the rights to Terminator Genisys not Fox. Could be interesting but never really struck me as a tabletop/board game depends on what's in the new film I guess.

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I sure hope Prodos isn't involved in any way.

   
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 AlexHolker wrote:
 Ruglud wrote:
I also agree, please don't let this game disappoint...

Given how badly River Horse fethed up chess, I wouldn't hold your breath.


They did Bolt Action and Dust Warfare, and those are solid.

 
   
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Alessio did Bolt Action, not his company.

edit.

Huh, colour me surprised, Andy and co are also working there.

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Problem is that their is a lot of worry in the movie community that this movie may be a bomb! I hope not cuz I love the universe and damn who doesn't love the flash forward scenes in the previous flicks of hundreds of skellie termies marching into combat! I just hope it doesn't ruin it for a possible cross over game :(

   
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We still don't know what scale and what quality the miniatures will be. Will they be pre-painted mush like Heroclix? Will they be little more than board game markers? Will they be wasted talent on cheap materals like Sedition Wars and Escape?


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John D Law wrote:
Problem is that their is a lot of worry in the movie community that this movie may be a bomb! I hope not cuz I love the universe and damn who doesn't love the flash forward scenes in the previous flicks of hundreds of skellie termies marching into combat! I just hope it doesn't ruin it for a possible cross over game :(
Movie bombing or not, the Terminator franchise is still rather beloved. Aliens movies being rather poor past 2 didn't kill people's desire for the franchise.

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Some comments on BoW from a poster called 'cavatore'

In answer to comments about this going to Kickstarter;
Nope, no KS!


How many factions would there be in a Terminator universe?
2 factions. to start with…


Game mechanics based on BA or a completely new system?
New mechanics. No KS and no chess involved!

   
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Nice spot Ruglud I had read those comments but didn't notice the name - and not sure if that is a photo of Alessio, or of Jean Reno from the movie Leon(?!)

Glad in a way that this isn't going to be KS, I forget what it's like seeing a preview for something and it not consisting of being a concept sketch on the back of a napkin or having to wait 2 years for the game to be released.

Makes absolutely sense though as I guess this will be released to tie in with the launch of the movie, and not when it's being shown as a repeat on TV!

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This has me very interested.

Please let me field a resistance army complete with scrap car technicals.

I wonder what scale this will be. Also I am so happy to see that this will not be a KS

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@MrFlutterPie - That's not currently a service we offer, but you can purchase quality miniatures from us..

 
   
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19mm scale PVC minis. Calling it now.

   
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yeah,
 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I sure hope Prodos isn't involved in any way.
To be fair I'd be happy if prodos are casting the Miniatures. they seem to have had the AVP ones ready for some time now.
Less happy if they are running the Kickstarter IP managment and customer interaction...

Panic...

   
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 AlexHolker wrote:
 Ruglud wrote:
I also agree, please don't let this game disappoint...

Given how badly River Horse fethed up chess, I wouldn't hold your breath.


you mean loka? Yeah, that was bad.

 
   
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Bolt action is a good basic game that's full of holes though. Same for dust. No follow through design for him and his company.

   
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What holes exactly are we talking about in respect to Bolt Action?
   
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BobtheInquisitor wrote:19mm scale PVC minis. Calling it now.


Goodness I hope not

RoninXiC wrote:What holes exactly are we talking about in respect to Bolt Action?


I would also like to know.

I don't really know much about Bolt Action but I see it being mentioned on the boards often positively..

 MrFlutterPie wrote:
Have my babies Anvil Industries!

 Anvils Hammer wrote:

@MrFlutterPie - That's not currently a service we offer, but you can purchase quality miniatures from us..

 
   
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 Vertrucio wrote:
Bolt action is a good basic game that's full of holes though. Same for dust. No follow through design for him and his company.


Bolt Action? So, other than the constantly updated FAQ and errata, the release of new supplements and campaign books every few months, the loads of free content that keeps being released, and the fact that Alessio himself interacts with the playerbase on the Facebook group, yeah, you're right, no follow through.

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Hahah! I knew people would jump on the bolt action defense. But you should probably do your own searching, the problems are out there and there are numerous topics about them all over the place in the very same forums you guys say are filled with positives.

Holes such as: Many units don't, or until recently, didn't have a reason to take them as one of the other experience levels. MMGs having little to no gameplay use due to weak rules. Overall balance issues. Off the wall national rules. Rally order being useless. Weak tank/vehicle rules. Etc.

But, notice how I originally said Bolt Action is, "a good game..."?

Just because a game has problems and holes, doesn't mean it can't be good at its core. Likewise, just because a game is good, doesn't mean you blindly ignore the problems and let lazy design slide.

That FAQ and Errata wouldn't have been needed as much had they tried a little bit harder to think through, and the fact that it's actually taken quite some time before they fixed other errors that were identified as problem from the very start.

So I'm hoping that games like this, and Gates of Antares don't suffer the same drive by design where the designer might spit out a pretty good core system, but fail to extrapolate into a solid game without the need for erratas to core systems. After all, Loka was designed by the same group...

   
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Vertrucio - think it's fair to say that you hold the bar quite high for game mechanics judging from some of your comments in other sections of the forum. Not to absolve Bolt Action from criticism but I don't think it's as bad as you make it out to be, or that Terminator is somehow doomed because of the design team. Let's remember, a team that has massive experience in Alessio's hands from his GW days through to Mantic, Warlord and all of the other stuff in-between. That's going to be a selling point for a lot of people.

Piston Honda wrote:
 AlexHolker wrote:
 Ruglud wrote:
I also agree, please don't let this game disappoint...

Given how badly River Horse fethed up chess, I wouldn't hold your breath.


you mean loka? Yeah, that was bad.


What was bad about it out of interest?

Panic wrote:yeah,
 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I sure hope Prodos isn't involved in any way.
To be fair I'd be happy if prodos are casting the Miniatures. they seem to have had the AVP ones ready for some time now.
Less happy if they are running the Kickstarter IP managment and customer interaction...

Panic...


Despite everything else that has happened with AvP hitting speed-bumps along the way, if nothing else the miniatures look absolutely stunning. Again, this game would be a sure sell for me if they got to even 75% as good (although that doesn't include 19mm scale )

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 Pacific wrote:
What was bad about it out of interest?

Have you ever looked at a game of chess being played and thought "What this game needs is a 'critical failure' rule"? No? Because apparently Alessio did.

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 AlexHolker wrote:
 Pacific wrote:
What was bad about it out of interest?

Have you ever looked at a game of chess being played and thought "What this game needs is a 'critical failure' rule"? No? Because apparently Alessio did.


Same concept as Nightmare Chess and Battle Chess and all the other variations of chess. There's a whole subgroup of chess enthusiasts who love weird takes on chess; Loka was just filling one of the market niches.

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I wonder who is making the figures. I suppose that it is not Hasbro, as they would probably do the rules in house. I would guess that the license would be too expensive for Mantic or Warlord. It would also conflict with the sales of their existing future space games. It would be really cool if it were Wargames Factory, as that would mean inexpensive plastics.
   
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Yes although Prodos are a relatively small company, and yet managed to get the AvP license from Fox.

My top bet would probably have been Mantic (Alessio has worked with them, and Ronnie has stated several times that he wants a big license), although I'm not sure if they are over-worked with other projects and if they had been working on this license I'm sure we would have read some hints about it by now.

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Might it be Warlord? They have at least two active resources for plastics:

1. Their own secret in-house plastics - the T-34/85, Sd.Kfz 251/1, Universal Carrier, and Panzer IV F/G/H; as well as the last few Bolt Action infantry releases, US Marines and Japanese at least, and I believe the Caesarian Roman plastics, have all been manufactured either in-house or via a separate contractor that is NOT Renedra

2. Italeri partnership. Through this partnership Warlord and Italeri have released a Sherman, Cromwell, Panther tanks, and Puma recce vehicle.

3. Renedra - though Warlord hasn't made a kit through Renedra in about two years, so not really any more.

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Now confirmed as Warlord games. http://www.warlordgames.com/announcement-terminator-genisys-the-miniatures-game/


We are very excited to announce that Warlord Games will be the exclusive distributor for the forthcoming Terminator Genisys Miniatures Game.

Produced by River Horse and written by Bolt Action author Alessio Cavatore, it will be a 28mm skirmish game pitting the Human Resistance led by John Connor against the Machines of Skynet.

The boxed set – War Against the Machines – is due for release in the Summer to coincide with the new movie…

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