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CrashUSAR wrote:So uh...in that last batch of pictures, does anyone else see a face on the Sentinel? Third from the top, its on one of the back panels of the cockpit...

Lucie looks great though! I need to find the patience to do this one day...


It's an optical illusion much like the notorious, "Face on Mars". It is in fact one of those bitz that are used to make the model more realistic looking by busying up the surface and is part of the original casting. This one looks like a canteen with two notches at the 11:00 and 1:00 o'clock positions.

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CrashUSAR wrote:So uh...in that last batch of pictures, does anyone else see a face on the Sentinel? Third from the top, its on one of the back panels of the cockpit...

Lucie looks great though! I need to find the patience to do this one day...


omg your right thats crazy haha

Great work though man looks amazing!

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This is amazing, just went over the whole thing for the last couple of days. While I'm extremely impressed, I have to say this has 100% discouraged me from making my own as I'm sure it would look like a stick figure compared to this thing. =P

Great attention to detail, sir.

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I'm sorry to hear that, the intent of this thread is to inspire not discourage the attempt and to demonstrate what is possible with a little effort.

Most of the hard work has been done i.e. eliminating the pitfalls and boondoggles of construction such as my failed attempts at building workable toes, knee joints, and waist and ankle joint sockets until I found a viable solution to fully articulated appendages. Of course movable joints aren't necessary and I find that I leave Lucie in almost the same pose all the time anyway but it is nice to be able to reposition the appendages if needs be.

As far as dimensions I hesitate to give them as for all I know Lucie may be horribly outsized or diminutive and while this doesn't bother me too much it may others who plunk their scratchbuilt along side a genuine article and are subsequently razed for error in scale.

No one I know is rich enough to afford a real one so I have little fear of such a comeuppance.

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Hey Blackadder,

I saw your photo and just had to do this to it. I hope you don't mind.




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I like what you did, looks real.

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Dang, that is sooooo good. Are you planning on taking commissions?

 
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I hadn't thought of that. I guess I could.


EDIT: sorry, I assume you were talking to me @Whalemusic ?

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Just beautiful, thanks I'd like that for my desktop background. Pity it's so small.

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The_Blackadder wrote:I'm sorry to hear that, the intent of this thread is to inspire not discourage the attempt and to demonstrate what is possible with a little effort.

Most of the hard work has been done i.e. eliminating the pitfalls and boondoggles of construction such as my failed attempts at building workable toes, knee joints, and waist and ankle joint sockets until I found a viable solution to fully articulated appendages. Of course movable joints aren't necessary and I find that I leave Lucie in almost the same pose all the time anyway but it is nice to be able to reposition the appendages if needs be.

As far as dimensions I hesitate to give them as for all I know Lucie may be horribly outsized or diminutive and while this doesn't bother me too much it may others who plunk their scratchbuilt along side a genuine article and are subsequently razed for error in scale.

No one I know is rich enough to afford a real one so I have little fear of such a comeuppance.

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It was kind of a joke, yours just has so much detail I'm not sure anything my hands could come up with would look half as gorgeous =P

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No, sorry shoulda been more clear, to Blackadder. New to the thread and havent worked all the way thru (reading anyways) so not sure if he answered it already.

 
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I'm sorry to say Whalemusic that Lucie was too labor intense to make reproduction profitable and I find repetition intolerable. The cost for me to duplicate Lucie would far exceed the price of an original FW model plus I believe FW would take a dim view of me selling copies of their artwork for profit but all the steps are there to reproduce it. There's something very satisfying in knowing you did it yourself.

Man the thought of reproducing all those toes makes me shudder.

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That titan looks amazing in that picture! man you did really great!

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Just to keep this thread alive and to add to the "How to" portion of this dissertation I whipped up a diagram of how to make the mount gimbals on the end of hydraulic cylinder and the piston.

The red objects are plastic bead headed straight pins (metal would be better). You drill a recess into the rod end head and insert the straight pin. Glue on the cap and drill an tight hole into the mount plate. Repeat the process on the other end and voila a gimbal mounted telescoping hydraulic cylinder. These have a reltively long travel and are used on the ankle gimbals and the waist to hip gimbals and are primarily used for steering and adjusting the feet to variations in the terrain.

The other style mounting for the hydraulic cylinders on the Warhound is the double rod end. This is the most common mounting and consists of a pin or axle through the mount end of the cylinder and a pin through the rod end of the piston. These are heavy duty cylinders and actually support the weight of the vehicle. They have a very short travel and are thick in cross section.

The toes use a variation on the rod end mount called a base mounted cylinder or trunnion mount.
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Brilliant idea! Diggin' all the mobility of this thing.

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Very original.

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Those pistons are very good! Keep it up!


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Thanks, as far as I know this idea is original to me I've never seen it employed before. If they ever break I have thought of an improvement which I will employ on an as needed basis ("If it ain't broke don't fix it!" is my mantra.) My improvement will be to drill a hole through the bead and flatten the top. Then insert a regular straight pin and super glue it into the bead. Then assemble as in the diagram. The reason for this is the cheap Chinese manufactured beaded straight pins have a tendency to have the pin pull out of the bead. What can you expect from people who cannot even make a decent paperclip or pencil eraser. Fah!

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I love your titan! Where did you get all the measurements?

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Thanks, and thanks to all for keeping this thread alive. As for measurements I had none to speak of but curiously I found just today verification that while Lucie might not be perfectly exact in scale she is at least in the right order of magnitude. Rummaging through my son's bitz box (a Ulyssian odyssey in itself) I happened across a banner from a Rhino sprue. That looks familiar thinks I and loading up my trusty Jabba guide on how to assemble a Warhound found the very pages that reinforce my supposition. The banner is almost a perfect fit on Lucie's shank.

Now I need to find another one but wonder of wonders I nailed the width of the appendage to within a quarter of a millimeter. Close enough for government work even if it is for the Emperor.

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Incidentally, bitz are a great way to reinforce your measurements. It's a pity I didn't realize that there were so many of GW kit pieces incorporated in the FW castings when I started Lucie; it would have saved me a lot of rebuilding. While I can't actually give out dimensions to be fair to the originators; it's not my fault that they took shortcuts in the designing of the prototype.
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Wow an entire summer shot in the arse and nothing to show for it.

I took most of the summer off from modeling as I just got tired of doing it.

This weekend I started detailing Lucie and my first project was the daunting Griffin Logo. I calculated the proper size for my particular greaves was 1.25 inches by 0.82 inches. This approximates the area covered by the FW Mark Tait model. The direction Mark's Griffin faces always bothered me so I reversed mine to face left purely for asthetics mind you lest my political affiliation be misconstrued.



Now a question; what is the significance of the capital 'T' on the left greave and is there any clear representation available for the drapery hanging from the waist armour.

How's that hope and change working out for you?

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Looks really great!!

Pretty sure the 'T' is representative of the Legio Titanica branch of the AdMech.

The drapery will just be personal heraldry and kill markings, sagas or whatever, see if i can find a pic from one of my IAs for you...

 
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Looking good Blackadder, is the griffon free hand or did you make a stencil ??
To answer your question, the T is the symbol of the Collegia Titanicus (Not sure it's spelled right) And it is the symbol that essentially shows the unity of all the loyal titan legions. Kinda like the inquisitorial I, and then the legion markings of course shows the different legions apart but you knew that. The reason that it is added to the lucius warhound I suspect is that they re-entered the T in the iconography when they released the mars pattern warhound, and also the reaver.
The T is also displayed on the titanicus eagle that I seem to remember is a sign of the union between mars and terra although the design is different then the normal imperial aquilla . The Jackal class warhound has a resin version of this symbol included.

The banner is the titans personal banner, and the way they are arranged is mostly the same throughout the legions, the BoLS titan sheets include the banners http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2008/07/bols-logo-sheet-archive.html so you should be able to create one for your titan by replacing some text and the legion symbol from one of the loyalist titan banners

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Here you go, this is from a Legio Astraman Reaver Titan, from IA7 i think. Obviously you'd need to change the Legio heraldry but i hope this helpd in some way!!




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No wonder this is my favorite forum. One need only ask to receive volumes of information, much appreciated. Armed with the above knowledge I did a google search and came up with the rest of the requisite information; unfortunately I also found a picture of a production Warhound that looks disturbingly less thickly gammed than my beloved Lucie.

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I like a Titan with a bit of meat on its bones... Gives me something to hang onto! Woof!
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Just a few updates today, The Collegia Titanica "T" needs to have the paint scraped off and repainted. A little dressing on the Gryphon and the Heraldic drapery is just clipped on for sizing up the scale. I finally managed to find a couple of Rhino banners and glued them on the shins upside down on purpose. It looks better to me that way.

A lot of the same images in this lot.

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The banner looks great, the T however seems to be a bit crooked to the one side (might just be the pic) and could in my opinion be a bit bigger

Would be really awesome to see some pics in daylight without flash

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Oh it's crooked alright but hell it's a copy of a FW model, at least all the toes match
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