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The peak of evolution for British armour, the Comet combines the speed of a light tank (16”/40cm) with improved armour (FA 7) and an AT 14 Semi-indirect fire gun.











I find it interesting there is no Motor Company box. Instead British players will have to buy a full Rifle Company and their half-tracks.

That Panther box looks tempting; very simple to swap between a Panther G and a JP, it seems.

One of the Battlefront staff mentioned it was possible to convert the kit to change from Panthers to Jagdpanthers but it was a bit 'fiddly' in his words.

Nice stuff about time for the PAnthers, But i really like the STG VAmpyr infantry. I hope someone doe a comparsion of the BF vs. PSC plastics. But on that note it looks like BF is a little late to the party on that one.One good thing about the Comets is that now i will be able to get some Cromwells on cheap, because a few players will want to upgrade.

I'll certainly pick up a box of Comets. I really like the look of the infantry, but I've got more than enough metal British infantry already.

It's nice to see BF making more plastic kits but on all of those kits PSC have already beaten them to it with the single exception of the Comet.

And the Jagdpanther. Yeah

Good point, I forgot about the Jagdpanther option.

The JP option is really the only thing that allows this Panther box to compete with PSC's; even if it is 'fiddly' to swap between the two.

Spotlights for the British Rifle Company and M5 Half-track Transport Platoon are up. I must say that the Rifle Platoon looks quite nice.

Damn and I just sold my British army. Well here is a reason to build a new one.

I'm currently working on some PSC British and I'm tempted to throw them out and try these new BF models as they look a lot nicer.

I saw that Heer 46 Has IR equipment in it web store,i think i am going to go that route.

I really like that those Sdkfz 251s have the light bridging equipment to use with pioneers. Something that you have to buy that extra variant box to do with the PSC ones.

Wish the Panthers had an option to build them as A's and D's. Would have much rather they used the space for the night vision devices for those mantlets instead. Far more people need panther A and D's than they do G's with night vision.

That said, I might get a box as it can double as Jagdpanthers, and will almost certainly get a box of 251s

sultansean wrote:
I really like that those Sdkfz 251s have the light bridging equipment to use with pioneers. Something that you have to buy that extra variant box to do with the PSC ones.

Yup... But then with the PSC box extras you get the Stummel, the Flammenwerfers, the mortar and the bridges... So horses for courses.

Why not just buy this and save some bread. UHU-Infarotsystem for the SdKfz 251
http://www.heer46shop.de/49211/uhu-infarotsystem-for-the-sdkfz-251
Universal kit for psc and bf.

GSO206 Sd Kfz 251 IR Equipment (x4 sets)

You'll be able to purchase the bits from Battlefront as well.

I would consider getting the battlefront plastic infantry but pretty sure I don't need any more considering I already have a box of the PSC infantry. If they sold single sprues I would have picked up one or two for some variety in models/poses though.

Big P wrote:

sultansean wrote:
I really like that those Sdkfz 251s have the light bridging equipment to use with pioneers. Something that you have to buy that extra variant box to do with the PSC ones.

Yup... But then with the PSC box extras you get the Stummel, the Flammenwerfers, the mortar and the bridges... So horses for courses.

Actually checking again the PSC box does not have the option for the bridges. And reading a review that used the BF plastic accessory sprue, it apparently does not come with the support struts to mount the bridges on....

I thought that many moons ago a man named P mentioned a possible PSc German 1/2 trax engineering conversion set.

Spotlights for the Panther/Jagdpanther Platoon and Panzersturm Platoon are up.

They look really nice, I do like the Panther but unfortunately I don't need any G's. It probably makes sense they didn't try and combine them because most A's would have had zimmerit (I guess?).

I really am liking the tracks on the BF models, they are really head and shoulders better than PSC ones which I've been fighting with on my last few kits.

I'd love to see plastic Tigers and a non-zimmerit-correctly-schurzened Panzer IV's.

Dunno why people have such issues with PSC tracks. They only fit on one way and dry fitting first makes it very simple.

Not sure how far ahead BF can be when both companies offer one piece track options on some kits, does seem a little unfair not to mention that PSC do it too.

15mm gamers are spoilt for choice.

Big P wrote:
Dunno why people have such issues with PSC tracks. They only fit on one way and dry fitting first makes it very simple.

The only issues I've had were the multi-part ones of the Shermans just being fiddly (which, admittedly, isn't helped by my being lazy >_> ), and the Cromwell's tracks, where neither the instruction manual nor the instructional video I found on YT mentioned having to snip the tabs off the end of the pegs before they'd fit, and it not really being obvious, even with dry-fitting, because the tabs look like they should be there and nothing really suggests the contrary.

I never noticed that on the Cromwell, I will mention it to the designer and see if its been changed.

Big P wrote:
Dunno why people have such issues with PSC tracks. They only fit on one way and dry fitting first makes it very simple.

Not sure how far ahead BF can be when both companies offer one piece track options on some kits, does seem a little unfair not to mention that PSC do it too.

15mm gamers are spoilt for choice.

The only ones that i have had issues with were the older 2 piece ones and that is because of my HAm hands, just love the new style on piece traxs.My first being the Stuarts.If it was not for PSc me and alot of new players probably would have never went the 15mm scale. I was getting ready to play the now op KGN in 20mm. but i already had a few pdfs of fow and really like the intel books and also battlegroup was transtioning from KGN warhammer historical and i didnot want to be stuck with another defunct game.now i sometimes kick myself for not waiting.but are group was wantingsomething else than another Gw product. Also a game that us poor folks can play.PSc and ZVEZDA with out you i think their would be less of us 15mm guys out their.Like my brother when i built his started soviets for a 150 bucks solid build.2 boxes of psc t34 and a box of soviet infantry.everything else bf bisters and zvezda especially the 4 katy trucks.

Big P wrote:
Dunno why people have such issues with PSC tracks. They only fit on one way and dry fitting first makes it very simple.

The 2 part tracks on everything I've had massively increase construction time and still don't look as nice as BF's single piece ones. On my Panzer IV's, the tracks are a bee's dick too small, so if you want them to meet and not have a gap you have to shave where they contact the first road wheel to get them to line up, getting them so they have an even track spacing all the way around is time consuming. On my Shermans, they're pretty much the right size, but because of the necessary draft angle the tread pieces closest to the join have extra plastic around the U shaped rubber grousers that needs to be trimmed out. The Tiger tracks are too big, you have to shave the ends to get them to fit around, shave too much and you end up with a gap, too little and the track spacing will be off.

In each case, the detail of the 2 part tracks is good on the top and bottom but not on the ends where the join is, which is the worst place because it's the area of track you see the most often (you only see the top on vehicles with fully exposed tracks and you only see the bottom when you pick the model up, the bit you see most often is the bit that looks the worst).

Maybe they've improved on newer kits but on the ones I've got they're the weak point of the model.

Not sure how far ahead BF can be when both companies offer one piece track options on some kits, does seem a little unfair not to mention that PSC do it too.

When it comes to the single track option, the BF ones are much more detailed than the PSC ones and most PSC don't come with them anyway. Here's the track from a BF Panzer IV:



and a single piece track from my PSC Panzer IV kit (excuse the blurriness, just took it with my phone quickly to demonstrate):


As a whole kit I do like the PSC offerings and I don't necessarily think the PSC tracks are awful, the 2 piece are fiddly and lack detail in the most critical area while the single piece lack detail all over, but I understand the limitations so in isolation I don't think they're terrible... but BF have really stepped up with really nice looking tracks and being 1 piece is so much nicer.

15mm gamers are spoilt for choice.

That is true, but one can always want more

I do appreciate that PSC were first to the table with really high quality 15mm plastics and they have a bigger range in the plastic department, but BF has been upping it's game since it's first disappointing plastics in the "Open Fire!" set and incorrectly schurzened Panzer IV.

Thinking about it, I probably would have preferred if PSC made their tracks 4 part so they could be well detailed all the way round instead of just on the top and the bottom, but that would have made flaws in the track length (like the Tiger which is too big or the Panzer IV which is too small) even worse.

Skink,

Can you PM a pic of where you have these issues and I will send it back to the design team, cos I aint had the same problem with the Tiger when doing it for display and its not something thats come up before in relation to that model.

I havent had it with the Panzer IV being too short, but I think, it happens if you dont get the tracks on the right way (something very easy to do with that kit and no part numbers - something I have been on at PSC to bring i to ease building). Though I seem to remember early track sections not quite meeting and a tiny gap being present... Was a while ago though, so I may be mistaken.

Anyway, PM pics of each and I can send the pics on and then they can see if the mould needs looking at. PSC are always keen to look into issues in order to improve the kits where they can, as done with the recent Marder/38t kit.

I'll have to get some pics with a better camera than my phone, though I've already assembled all my Panzer IV's and Shermans, I can demonstrate the problem I'm having with the Tiger as I haven't put the tracks on 2 of them yet. I'm pretty sure I had the Panzer IV tracks on the right way, if you put them on the wrong way they're a long way off, but even the right way they weren't quite fitting without some trimming.

It was nothing I couldn't fix, they look fine now, I just spent longer putting the tracks together than the entire rest of the tank, and they still don't look as good as the BF ones.