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I need some input between two potential lists for an upcoming 2.5k tourney. It's Swedish comp, but End Times will be allowed. I am using standalone WoC.

The first list is a combined arms style list, where I throw in all the threats I can while staying relevant in Swedish. It scores fairly well because I don't have many duplicates. The second list is tooled to do better at holding its points, and has fewer but harder hitting units. I've tried out both, am currently leaning towards the second one. Any units with mark of Khorne have been heavily kitbashed and converted, so will not be played as anything else. Tzeentch, Nurgle, and unmarked can be anything.

C&C appreciated!

Winds of Change
2,498 Warriors of Chaos
Comp: 12.6

LORDS

Sorcerer Lord
-Level 4, lore of Tzeentch, mark of Tzeentch
-Third eye of Tzeentch, chaos familiar
-Talisman of Preservation, dragonhelm
-Mounted on Disc of Tzeentch

HEROES

Exalted Hero
-Battle Standard, Mark of Nurgle
-Sword of might, enchanted shield, opal amulet

Exalted Hero
-Mark of Nurgle
-Sword of anti-heroes, charmed shield
-Juggernaut

Exalted Hero
-Daemonic mount w/ barding, shield
-Sword of strife, dragonbane gem, ironcurse icon

Chaos Sorcerer
-Lvl. 2, lore of Shadow
-Skull of Katam, chalice of chaos

CORE

20 Chaos Warriors
-Mark of Nurgle, hand weapon, shields
-Full command, banner of swiftness

40 Chaos Marauders
-Full command, shields
-Mark of Tzeentch

2x 5 Warhounds


SPECIAL

5 Chaos Knights
-Musician, standard bearer w/ Blasted Standard
-Mark of Tzeentch, ensorcelled weapons

RARE

Hellcannon


Troll King’s Hold
2,500 Warriors of Chaos
Comp: 11.5

HEROES

Throgg
-Great weapon, the Wintertooth Crown

Exalted Hero
-Battle Standard, Mark of Khorne
-Sword of anti-heroes, enchanted shield, luckstone, ironcurse icon

Chaos Sorcerer
-Level 1 wizard, lore of Fire
-Daemonic mount w/ barding
-Skull of katam, charmed shield
-Burning body

Chaos Sorcerer
-Lvl. 2, lore of Shadow
-Chaos familiar

CORE

20 Chaos Warriors
-Mark of Khorne, halberds, shields
-Full command, banner of swiftness

2x Chariot
-Mark of Khorne

2x 5 Warhounds


SPECIAL

7 Chaos Ogres
-Full command, great weapons
-Mark of Nurgle

Chimera
-Flaming Breath, Regenerating Flesh

Gorebeast Chariot
-Mark of Khorne

RARE

3 Skullcrushers of Khorne
-Musician, standard bearer w/ gleaming pennant
   
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wolverhampton

Throgg is good but why take him if your not going to take core trolls, thats his main use.

mean green fightin machine 
   
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I like what he gives you for his point cost, and have always been a fan of ogres over trolls.
   
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Powerful Chaos Warrior






Exalted Hero
-Mark of Nurgle
-Sword of anti-heroes, charmed shield
-Juggernaut


No such thing as a nurgle juggernaut I'm afraid

Alex 'Salior' Wheatley
- Warriors of Chaos / Savage Ogres
- Most VP - Eatbats 2014
- 2nd - Bunker Brawl 2014
- 3rd - Blood on the Sands 2013


'A proper Imperial Guard regiment should have enough men to build a starport from corpses, if need be.'

 
   
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Morphing Obliterator





Mexico

I've never used Throgg so can't help much on that list, on the first one however....

 Warptide wrote:

Winds of Change
2,498 Warriors of Chaos
Comp: 12.6

LORDS

Sorcerer Lord
-Level 4, lore of Tzeentch, mark of Tzeentch
-Third eye of Tzeentch, chaos familiar
-Talisman of Preservation, dragonhelm
-Mounted on Disc of Tzeentch


The chaos familiar isn't your best option on a lvl4 wizard, since there is a high chance that you will know the spell you want and knowing a 5th will only make it harder to cast with the winds of magic rolls. I'd take a dispel scroll instead at 2,500 you will surely use it against other armies. Also I'd put the enchanted or charmed shield here since he will be flying solo and I'd rather have a 1+ save or discard a cannon ball on a 2+, after all this is your most expensive unit in the list, losing him will hurt on the points.


HEROES

Exalted Hero
-Battle Standard, Mark of Nurgle
-Sword of might, enchanted shield, opal amulet

Exalted Hero
-Mark of Nurgle
-Sword of anti-heroes, charmed shield
-Juggernaut

Exalted Hero
-Daemonic mount w/ barding, shield
-Sword of strife, dragonbane gem, ironcurse icon

Chaos Sorcerer
-Lvl. 2, lore of Shadow
-Skull of Katam, chalice of chaos


As mentioned above the nurgle hero can't take a juggernaut so... assuming it was a MoK hero I wouldn't send him solo, without a ward he will be an easy prey and probably fall before he can get into combat, the main problem with the solo units is that they are great to hunt monsters or warmachines but not so good to fight units because of the resolution, you'll have to do really really well to not lose combat if facing any decent sized unit. I'd drop the jugger hero.

The BSB is ok I guess, I've never tried the opal amulet, but if you are going for it I'd get scaled skin and fencer blades instead of the sword of might, most enemies should be hitting you on 6's and with a 2+ save you should be able to hold on that one use 4+ ward. Still I think it's an expensive loadout for a 2W model. I'd keep it simple and just get MoN, scaled skin, shield and ironcurse icon, getting hit on 5's 1+ armor save, 6's parry save.

On the daemonic mount hero, give it MoT, armor of destiny, halberd, shield and burning body. He would get a 2+ armor save vs range and 3+ armor save in close combat with a 3+ ward. The +1 str and flaming attacks will be great to deal with nasty monsters like the skaven abomination, of ogre cannons with regen. Hell if you get some "free" points getting soul feeder on this guy could be really nice, doing 4 S6 hits, followed by 2 S5 and a stomp give you lots of chances to roll a 6 and get back one of your wounds

The lvl2 sorcers is ok, I'd take the familiar with him instead of the skull of katam thou. Knowing a 3rd spell in shadows is great and I love the chalice it isn't one of the best items but I take it on my sorcerers/heroes whenever I have some free points, you never know when a DP will appear to save the day


CORE

20 Chaos Warriors
-Mark of Nurgle, hand weapon, shields
-Full command, banner of swiftness

40 Chaos Marauders
-Full command, shields
-Mark of Tzeentch

2x 5 Warhounds



I'd drop the marauders and get the 2xChariots from your 2nd list instead.


SPECIAL

5 Chaos Knights
-Musician, standard bearer w/ Blasted Standard
-Mark of Tzeentch, ensorcelled weapons


The knights are really expensive and 5 won't really make much of a difference, the chimera and gorebeast from your 2nd list would also be a lot more threatening


RARE

Hellcannon



The hellcannon is fine, it is pretty random which is nice with chaos, but I would rely a lot more on the 3 skull crushers everytime, I didn't make the maths but with some of the cuts on the other section you might be able to fit both the hellcannon and skull crushers

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Thanks for the feedback. Good catch on the MoN on juggernaut. I was playing around with Daemonic mounts and juggernauts so forgot to change that.

I think I'm going to try to find a way to be the disc sorcerer into the first list and go with that.
   
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Powerful Chaos Warrior






7 Chaos Ogres
-Full command, great weapons
-Mark of Nurgle


Unit stacks up at 387, I assume 4 x 2 with Throgg?

for LESS points (385) you get 11 trolls, meaning 6 x 2 with Throgg....

regardless of who charges who we fight, we can assume Throgg's fight each other because they arent what we are measuring, so the trolls go first because they dont have great weapons, because they hit bad they elect to vomit, 12 S 5 means 8 wounds, no save.... thats 2.66 dead ogres! BLEGH!, Ogres hit back, 22 attacks, hitting on 4's (11) wounding on 2's (9) regen on 4's (4.5), meaning 1.6 dead trolls. HOWEVER you now have 5 wounds and a banner RES: 6, however the trolls have 8 wounds and a rank RES: 9. Because of the Ogre losses you now dont have a rank, but the trolls do, leadership 8 down to 5.... Ogres run losing their banner bearer on the spot IF they arent all run down.....

VICTORY TROLLS

(trolls are a sick fetish of mine in chaos )

Alex 'Salior' Wheatley
- Warriors of Chaos / Savage Ogres
- Most VP - Eatbats 2014
- 2nd - Bunker Brawl 2014
- 3rd - Blood on the Sands 2013


'A proper Imperial Guard regiment should have enough men to build a starport from corpses, if need be.'

 
   
 
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