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2015/02/18 21:16:56
Subject: [Kickstarter] Barbarian Hordes by Red Box Games
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Novice Knight Errant Pilot
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Hi guys didn't see a thread already for this
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1103158358/barbarian-hordes-by-red-box-games
Hello again kickstarter! Red box Games is back again to fund the production of a new set of figures intended to finalize the Helsvakt hordes with the most requested units from the very dedicated and much appreciated fans of Red Box Games. First on offer are the . These 5 figures can be selected individually or as a themed set.
Pictured here as works in progress............
So to begin the campaign I offer The Chosen: Armoured Elite Hordesmen the elite corps of Hel's army of marauding murderous lunatics. these are the men who heeded her mad cry for blood and fury, wandered into the northern wastes, survived it's perils and scaled the great Mountain of Madness to bear her blessing and carry her vengeance out into the world. These are the mightiest of her warriors who have survived multiple campaigns and multiple proving battles. They are inhumanly strong and resilient. As ruthless as a rabid beast and equally fearsome. They bear no mercy in their hearts and no love for man or woman, kith or kin. They live for battle and carnage. Maniacs and marauders. Behold and tremble......
MATERIALS.....................................Each of these figures are cast in high quality, lead free, white metal and is supplied with a 25 mm round plastic base. The figures may or may not be cast in a single piece as determined to be most efficient for moldmaking and casting purposes. I do try to keep my figures single piece as often as possible and whenever necessary I do try to be sure that my multi-part figures are easily assembled.
The figures are built in a true 32 mm scale which means that the armature for an average sized human male would stand 32 mm tall from the bottom of the feet to the top of the head with both feet together and back straight. This typically puts the eye level of the unposed human male figure at 28 mm high. The pose can drastically effect the final height of the figure as the lengths of the bones and flex points of the miniature do not change during the posing process.
The proportions of my figure tend to be much more idealized than what you might typically find in other miniature ranges which means that the heads and hands are more appropriately sized to real life proportions. Humans are typically 7 " heads " tall while dwarves are more typically 4 to 5 heads tall, and elves would be 6 heads tall.
The Helsvakt like the Njorn are a special breed of human. They are superhumanly strong and tough by their exposure to the magics of the Sorceress Hel. This is reflected in their stature and physical heft / girth. They are slightly taller than normal humans ( between 35 and 38 mm tall unposed ) and thicker as well. their proportions are still measured by the same rubric but the overall effect is slightly comic book like.
I find most of my artistic influences for the helsvakt between the likes Frank Frazetta, Paul Bonner, and Joe Madrueira. I love Frazetta's approach to pose and gesture and Paul Bonner's incredibly realistic detail and Joe Mad's overall stylization and energy. As for the design themes of the Helsvakt I look to the icons of evil barbarians in popular fiction and film from my child hood. The Jun horde from beastmaster......probably the formative image of an evil barbarian horde for me, and the riders of Doom from Conan the Barbarian. Warduke.....one of my most beloved toys as a kid........... Brom's warriors of the Dark Sun world........and probably hundreds of other images that all run to one big ball of spikey, battered metal, torn leather, tattered pelts, chains, closed helms, horns, and bone trinkets. You know the stuff of medieval nightmares. All good fun.
GOALS...............................My ambition for this kickstarter campaign is to fund the creation and production and distribution of the final sets needed to " finish " the HelsVakt range of miniatures within the RBG fantasy world. I have already funded through a recent KS campaign a set of semi modular rank and file troops, the Hordesmen, along with a set of murderous archer / assassins called the Craven, and a group of a few Heroes of reknown withint he HelsVakt Army, Hakar the Horrible, Bloody Garm, Valda the Black hearted, and Svartulf the Savage.
NOW I want to fund the the expansion of the army with in no particular order.......
5 armoured elite warriors.
Leader, horn blower, standard bearer elites
4 female warriors.
BERSERKERS 4 new berserkers
4 new ranged helsvakt warriors
HELSRIDERS 4 new mounted warrior elites
Very ambitious I know but I am up for the challenge and ready to make my best efforts. My most recent Kickstarter funded 24 figures in 30 days and of those 24 figures I sculpted 18 of them over the course of the 30 day campaign and the original 6 I had sculpted over the course of the week prior to the launch of the campaign. I can do this. The giants and Mounted elites will probably take a while to complete but I am confident I can have all funded figures sculpted within 30 days of the close of the KS.
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2015/02/19 04:42:55
Subject: (Kickstarter) Barbarian Hordes by Red Box Games
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Unhealthy Competition With Other Legions
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Why metal and not true resin...
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2015/02/19 10:35:55
Subject: (Kickstarter) Barbarian Hordes by Red Box Games
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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18 guys in a month while running a KS. Damn.
Berserkers and female warriors sounds ace, but I have way too much stuff on my plate right now :(
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2015/02/19 10:39:53
Subject: (Kickstarter) Barbarian Hordes by Red Box Games
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Battlefield Tourist
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I believe that Tre can sculpt that fast- the progression on last KS before this one was really quick!
I'm not really into the Helsvakt, so I might sit this one out. But if the Jotun look good or if the Helsmaidens are fantastic I might be tempted to dip my toe in.
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2015/02/19 14:56:55
Subject: (Kickstarter) Barbarian Hordes by Red Box Games
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Dankhold Troggoth
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primalexile - The horse and rider are going to be resin, if that is of interest to you!
Da Boss - I agree, while I'm not in need of Helsvakt, I'm seriously tempted to back this for the Jotunn. Right now it just looks like an armature but once I see more, that will likely get me in here
Edit: Went ahead and put in a placeholder pledge for when the Jotunn unlocks . Will up it once the cost is known, etc, since it is the stretch goal after the current one (the horse and rider).
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2015/02/19 16:17:17
Subject: (Kickstarter) Barbarian Hordes by Red Box Games
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While I'm really looking forward to Tre's NEXT Kickstarter, I could see myself getting a Jotunn or two, once lthey unlock!
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2015/02/19 16:22:26
Subject: Re:(Kickstarter) Barbarian Hordes by Red Box Games
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Experienced Saurus Scar-Veteran
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More Helsvakt for me then, if you guys aren't picking them up!
I'm liking how those Chosen are shaping up.
I really enjoy painting Tre's stuff. Problem is, I still haven't figured out how to base the guys I got in the last two KS campaigns yet, and they're languishing in a half- finished state!
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2015/02/19 17:14:58
Subject: Re:(Kickstarter) Barbarian Hordes by Red Box Games
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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highlord tamburlaine wrote:More Helsvakt for me then, if you guys aren't picking them up!
I'm liking how those Chosen are shaping up.
I really enjoy painting Tre's stuff. Problem is, I still haven't figured out how to base the guys I got in the last two KS campaigns yet, and they're languishing in a half- finished state!
Did you leave them on the 25mm rounds? The wide stance poses kinda make me want to put them on 32mm round bases instead but then I'm still not sure what game I'm going to use them in and I don't want to have to rebase them. Mine are still about 2/3rds finished with the bases still bare plastic.
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Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur
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2015/02/19 18:03:14
Subject: (Kickstarter) Barbarian Hordes by Red Box Games
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Thanks for postign this Edlowe! And thanks everybody for the support, encouragement, and enthusiasm!
For those nto really interested in the Helsvakt I am planning on introducing at least one hero out to hunt them down and slay them all. Not to mention if this current rate keeps up we will be running out of planned ideas for the Helsvakt and getting in to other factions by the end of the campaign.
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2015/02/19 18:08:44
Subject: Re:(Kickstarter) Barbarian Hordes by Red Box Games
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Prestor Jon wrote: highlord tamburlaine wrote:More Helsvakt for me then, if you guys aren't picking them up!
I'm liking how those Chosen are shaping up.
I really enjoy painting Tre's stuff. Problem is, I still haven't figured out how to base the guys I got in the last two KS campaigns yet, and they're languishing in a half- finished state!
Did you leave them on the 25mm rounds? The wide stance poses kinda make me want to put them on 32mm round bases instead but then I'm still not sure what game I'm going to use them in and I don't want to have to rebase them. Mine are still about 2/3rds finished with the bases still bare plastic.
This is a good point! Maybe Tre could help us out in this.
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2015/02/19 18:30:40
Subject: Re:(Kickstarter) Barbarian Hordes by Red Box Games
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Experienced Saurus Scar-Veteran
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A 32mm round might work. I know one of the champion dudes from the Barbarian Hordes (with the mace over his shoulder) has his legs splayed out REALLY wide. He seems like he fits a 25mm square across diagonally.
I guess I could cheat and just keep him on his original round, slap a piece of "rock" on top of it and be done with it.
Should we assume that this new hero shall have gigantic melancholies and gigantic mirth, and be able to tread the jeweled thrones under his sandled feet?
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2015/02/19 20:42:53
Subject: Re:(Kickstarter) Barbarian Hordes by Red Box Games
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I'm totally in on this, I love the Helsvakt. I'm also really intrigued by how the Jotunn will turn out. Not to mention that melancholically mirthy sullen-eyed dude.
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2015/02/19 21:52:32
Subject: Re:(Kickstarter) Barbarian Hordes by Red Box Games
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Fixture of Dakka
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Well, I really should resist another KS....but, hell no, I want me some Helsmaidens
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2015/02/21 04:33:38
Subject: (Kickstarter) Barbarian Hordes by Red Box Games
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Fixture of Dakka
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Yea, I will be in for Helsmaidens, should some finished sculpts pop up before it is over.
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2015/02/21 14:06:56
Subject: (Kickstarter) Barbarian Hordes by Red Box Games
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Wehrkind wrote:Yea, I will be in for Helsmaidens, should some finished sculpts pop up before it is over.
Helsmaiden WIPs are posted on the KS now and Tre says they'll be done in a couple days.
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Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur
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2015/02/21 15:25:39
Subject: (Kickstarter) Barbarian Hordes by Red Box Games
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Dakka Veteran
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yep they are a big priority!
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2015/02/21 15:48:58
Subject: (Kickstarter) Barbarian Hordes by Red Box Games
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Fixture of Dakka
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Glad to hear it!
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2015/02/21 16:09:30
Subject: (Kickstarter) Barbarian Hordes by Red Box Games
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Those girls are rather large-chested compared to first KS Yrsa. Hmh. I likeher better.
Now:
How to you work so fast?! Besides experience and knowing what works regarding volumes and poses, of course. I have to do an armature, then cover it with two part epoxy putty and put my FIMO (or Cernit,but that can have weird sharp "sand" pieces manifest themselves while baking?!, so I use less) over that and wait till the putty is hardened before working on the FIMO. Do you glue whatever not- self hardening putty you use onto the armature and that black putty or what, if I may ask. And the amazing cloth you're knocking out, I can hardly get decent flowing cloth at all (that's part of why I do mostly naked monsters instead of humans), let alone several pieces on multiple models in a day.
If the Berserkers get non-wide stanced poses you'll have my money even though I want to stop buying minis for a while.
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2015/02/21 17:41:18
Subject: (Kickstarter) Barbarian Hordes by Red Box Games
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Thanks Binabik.
The speed is mostly knowing what works and doesn't and beign a bit obsessive about the process. I have practiced and praticed to the point that I fidn it difficult to take my time with a project. I try nto to work in thin layers as that can SERIOUSLY complicate things.
Right now I use a two part epoxy putty called ProCreate mixed with another 2P called Aves Apoxie sculpt. The aves softens the Procreate without interfering with it's rubber liek qualities once it begins to set. those qualities help my process.
The aves DOES speed up the set time and that also contributes to the speed. I only have so much time to get things done so i do nto waste any motions.
Cloth.......that can be a bit more dynamic in process. Sometimes I have to use different methods depending on the sculpt.
I have been considering producing a How-To video series.
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2015/02/21 17:50:15
Subject: (Kickstarter) Barbarian Hordes by Red Box Games
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Fixture of Dakka
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I'd appreciate a how to series Although if I could bug you for perhaps a text accompaniment, I would like that as well. I read and think a LOT faster than most people talk, especially when they are doing a video, so videos are really hard to me to watch and really learn from unless they move quickly.
Learning to half sculpt would be really fun though! Automatically Appended Next Post: (I say "half sculpt" because I don't expect to get as good as you by any number of videos combined with the limited time I can apply to it )
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2015/02/21 19:59:50
Subject: (Kickstarter) Barbarian Hordes by Red Box Games
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
We'll find out soon enough eh.
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tre manor wrote: Thanks Binabik.
The speed is mostly knowing what works and doesn't and beign a bit obsessive about the process. I have practiced and praticed to the point that I fidn it difficult to take my time with a project. I try nto to work in thin layers as that can SERIOUSLY complicate things.
Right now I use a two part epoxy putty called ProCreate mixed with another 2P called Aves Apoxie sculpt. The aves softens the Procreate without interfering with it's rubber liek qualities once it begins to set. those qualities help my process.
The aves DOES speed up the set time and that also contributes to the speed. I only have so much time to get things done so i do nto waste any motions.
Cloth.......that can be a bit more dynamic in process. Sometimes I have to use different methods depending on the sculpt.
I have been considering producing a How-To video series.
Oh interesting, I'd assumed you were using a polymer clay. I could never get ProCreate to play nice with varied mixes in the same way green stuff can, but try making the ProCreate equivalent of a very high yellow-content GS mix before you mix in the Apoxie, I've found that mixture(1/3 high-yellow GS to 2/3 even mix Apoxy) actually remains workable for a lot longer than either GS or Apoxie alone. Oh, and a how-to would be very cool, I'd love to see you do a Miniature Mentor-style video going from armature to finished model with commentary as you work.
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I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
I have a blog now, evidently. Featuring the Alternative Mordheim Model Megalist.
"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal |
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2015/02/21 20:56:22
Subject: (Kickstarter) Barbarian Hordes by Red Box Games
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That si basically what I am thinking. Interspersed with additional commentary explaining my process and thoughts a little deeper.
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2015/02/21 20:58:33
Subject: (Kickstarter) Barbarian Hordes by Red Box Games
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Novice Knight Errant Pilot
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I'd definitely be interesting in the sculpting dvd, I'm sure it would be hugely popular.
new pic from the latest update
Hey everybody!
Sorry for the lateness of today's update. I had planned to get more work done today but I lost 2.5 hours after having to tear off the Jotunn's anatomy when the putty hardened before I was able to finish detailing it properly. So I ended up sculpting it twice effectively. BUT the anatomy is done now and the Jotunn will be ready for the addition of the armor and costume layers tomorrow. I will also be working on the Helsrider Horse tomorrow as well.
I also have the updated progress of the helsmaidens as well. I know this i going a little slower than I had hoped as well but the tiny little details on the chosen's armor and the Helsmaiden's armour is taking a little more time than anticipated. I promise though I will be done with them by Wednsday evening. In the meantime however I will still be working on the other planned projects for this campaign and I will be posting daily updates as the campaign progresses.
Again I am ALWAYS open to suggestions and criticisms so please feel free.
Cheers,
Tre'
The giant certainly looks like it'll be an awesome sculpt, I believe that its two to a rank in pledge terms.
Heres some more wip from the previous updates
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2015/02/25 20:43:07
Subject: Re:(Kickstarter) Barbarian Hordes by Red Box Games
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Novice Knight Errant Pilot
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Some more updated pics from the latest update
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2015/02/25 20:51:29
Subject: Re:(Kickstarter) Barbarian Hordes by Red Box Games
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Nasty Nob
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Man, that Jotunn looks coooool. I have most of your dwarves and he would look epic fighting them!
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2015/02/25 21:14:40
Subject: (Kickstarter) Barbarian Hordes by Red Box Games
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So Jotunns are definitely in then?
Nice!
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2015/02/25 21:42:20
Subject: Re:(Kickstarter) Barbarian Hordes by Red Box Games
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Experienced Saurus Scar-Veteran
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You guys can have your giants, I want me more spiky heavy metal van panel Frazetta warriors.
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2015/02/25 21:47:11
Subject: Re:(Kickstarter) Barbarian Hordes by Red Box Games
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Novice Knight Errant Pilot
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Probably should have posted this info as well from the last update about the jotunn and helriders weapons.
hey everybody!
Well here is a ntoher update of the Helsrider and Jotunn for you all. I have settled ont he face / head for the Jotunn and I am very very happy with it thus far. I will be adding a bit of a forehead nodule above his brow and his left ear as well but otherwise the head is complete. He will be wielding a chain in his right hand connected to a manacle aroudn his right wrist, and his left hand will be covered by a spiked sheet of metal. All of those little balls hanging from rings and chains will be Skull trophies. His feet will be wrapped in leather strips.....or at least one of them will be.
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Teh Helsrider is also movign right along. Here I have begun the under layer of his armour and attached the first layer of his shield. His weapon will be a flail and he will wear a fur cloak and closed helm, and a very special back adornment which I do not want to spoil until I know i can make it work. hope you all like the progress thus far and be lookign out for the first WIPs of the Berserkers this evening / tonight.
Cheers,
Tre'
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2015/02/26 20:11:55
Subject: (Kickstarter) Barbarian Hordes by Red Box Games
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Fixture of Dakka
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That is a pimpin' jotun! Loving it!
The horseman is also off to a really great start.
I need to start lining up some Johns...
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2015/02/26 20:31:03
Subject: (Kickstarter) Barbarian Hordes by Red Box Games
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Huge Hierodule
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These models look really cool. Going to wait a bit before I decide if I want to pledge, but if the models keep looking like this it's probably a strong possibility!
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