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2015/02/20 21:44:37
Subject: New hordes gargantuans
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Monstrous Master Moulder
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2015/02/20 21:58:52
Subject: New hordes gargantuans
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Sure Space Wolves Land Raider Pilot
Schaumburg, IL
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For those of us that can't view Youtube while at work, could you please tell us what the announcement was?
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2015/02/20 22:01:52
Subject: Re:New hordes gargantuans
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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RiTides wrote: Boss Salvage wrote: RiTides wrote:People keep saying the Dracodile, but I don't know if it's just wishlisting or not ...
I'd buy that, and I don't have any serious plans of playing gators
Now strapping guns to it and calling it a Mammoth, that's more my style
- Salvage
Nice
Looking forward to the announcement today!
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Edit: Pictures have begun coming out from the Smogcon Keynote, looks like no Dracodile but here are the Gargantuans:
Stephen Reynolds @ScapegoatSte 1 minute ago
Circle - Storm Raptor - Roc
Trolls - Glacier King
Skorne - Desert Hydra
LoE - Blightbringer
Here are pics from Celebros in this thread:
http://privateerpressforums.com/showthread.php?222009-Smogcon-keynote/page2
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BlaxicanX wrote:A young business man named Tom Kirby, who was a pupil of mine until he turned greedy, helped the capitalists hunt down and destroy the wargamers. He betrayed and murdered Games Workshop.
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2015/02/20 22:06:30
Subject: New hordes gargantuans
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Sure Space Wolves Land Raider Pilot
Schaumburg, IL
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Cool! Looking forward to an Everblight Gargantuan that doesn't suck.
Is Everblight really now making a push towards insects? Really. They started as Land Sharks, then they went Cthulu, now insects. PP really needs to settle on one.
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2015/02/20 22:10:18
Subject: New hordes gargantuans
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Kelne
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You mean the faction that literally grows/invents its beasts is trying different shapes?
Circle's got giant wolves, goats, griffons and stone golems. So why not?
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2015/02/20 23:01:04
Subject: New hordes gargantuans
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Sure Space Wolves Land Raider Pilot
Schaumburg, IL
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B0B MaRlEy wrote:You mean the faction that literally grows/invents its beasts is trying different shapes?
Circle's got giant wolves, goats, griffons and stone golems. So why not?
Yep, the faction is starting to look like Darwin's grab-bag.
Circle is not the same comparison. Wolves, Satyrs, Griffons, and golems can all be found in their forests.
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2015/02/20 23:07:58
Subject: New hordes gargantuans
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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Yeah and Everblight can create beasts on the fly as the situation dictates, so you'd expect a variety of styles.
I'm very excited about these. Im glad they're all new sculpts, the Hydra is stupid cool, blown away by that model. Only disappointment is no Dracodile.
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2015/02/20 23:18:42
Subject: New hordes gargantuans
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Azeroth wrote:Yep, the faction is starting to look like Darwin's grab-bag.
Perhaps, but Legion beasts literally exist by intelligent design rather than evolution.
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2015/02/21 04:09:25
Subject: New hordes gargantuans
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Tough Tyrant Guard
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Don't get me wrong, they look cool and I hope they're fun to play and to play against... but I hope they release some changes to make the old gargantuans that people already paid $150 or whatever for more playable before those come out.
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2015/02/21 05:32:16
Subject: New hordes gargantuans
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HiveFleetPlastic wrote:Don't get me wrong, they look cool and I hope they're fun to play and to play against... but I hope they release some changes to make the old gargantuans that people already paid $150 or whatever for more playable before those come out.
I agree with this. the way Hordes works it really does seem like warlocks want more beasts to fuel their fury, and a Gargantuan kind of goes against that spirit (as opposed to a Colossal, which fits perfectly with the Warmachine desire to want only one or two great jacks to spend focus on). I think it would be cool if Gargantuans had a "fury battery" ability where you could put ~3 fury on it each activation (independent of forcing and the fury stat) so that you could fill up your warlock. Admittedly I don't play Hordes so I don't know how balanced that is.
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2015/02/21 06:34:57
Subject: New hordes gargantuans
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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I want a giant lightning bird now.
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2015/02/21 10:38:45
Subject: New hordes gargantuans
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Knight Exemplar
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Ditto
She looks so amazing!
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2015/02/22 06:08:37
Subject: New hordes gargantuans
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Fresh-Faced New User
Hamilton, Ontario
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I seriously as all he double hockey sticks want a Hydra, lol! That thing is nasty!
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2015/02/22 07:18:43
Subject: Re:New hordes gargantuans
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Member of the Ethereal Council
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Privateer press, you will never get more on my money if you keep making it hard too decide a faction
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2015/02/22 09:07:51
Subject: Re:New hordes gargantuans
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Knight Exemplar
UK
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hotsauceman1 wrote:Privateer press, you will never get more on my money if you keep making it hard too decide a faction
Easy fix... get them all!
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2015/02/22 13:06:42
Subject: New hordes gargantuans
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Hopefully they will put a pair of spectacles on the glacier king to let him see well enough to have MAT 6.
I think one key to making all the new gargantuans worth taking (as opposed to the older ones) is LOTS of ranges attacks. 2-3 big ones and then 4-6 lighter ones, or couple sprays.
The Storm Wall, Galleon, earthshaker and prime axiom all have multiple shot (and each only 1 or 2 big guns) but the volume of fire makes it not a 19 -20 point single shot missed and it is useless gargantuans that we currently have.
The desert hydra looks a step in the right direction.
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2015/02/23 01:06:02
Subject: New hordes gargantuans
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Steady Space Marine Vet Sergeant
Hanging out on the Great Plains
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Dang, I haven't got the old ones done yet.
But OMG that Skorne Desert Hydra is wicked.
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2015/02/23 02:41:55
Subject: New hordes gargantuans
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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Waaagh_Gonads wrote:Hopefully they will put a pair of spectacles on the glacier king to let him see well enough to have MAT 6.
I think one key to making all the new gargantuans worth taking (as opposed to the older ones) is LOTS of ranges attacks. 2-3 big ones and then 4-6 lighter ones, or couple sprays.
The Storm Wall, Galleon, earthshaker and prime axiom all have multiple shot (and each only 1 or 2 big guns) but the volume of fire makes it not a 19 -20 point single shot missed and it is useless gargantuans that we currently have.
The desert hydra looks a step in the right direction.
(It amuses me in light of this that the Gargantuan usually cited as the best is sitting on a ROF 3 stack of cannons)
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2015/02/23 03:10:35
Subject: Re:New hordes gargantuans
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Member of the Ethereal Council
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I always thought Gargatuans/Collassals should have a blast marker melee attack. So if they hit, they do full damage, bit it can deviate. A mountain king with his giant fists hitting a winterguard is going to do more than just squash on dude.
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2015/02/23 03:32:20
Subject: Re:New hordes gargantuans
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Satyxis Raider
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hotsauceman1 wrote:I always thought Gargatuans/Collassals should have a blast marker melee attack. So if they hit, they do full damage, bit it can deviate. A mountain king with his giant fists hitting a winterguard is going to do more than just squash on dude.
How about if they just gave them a thresher-like power attack?
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2015/02/23 04:01:28
Subject: New hordes gargantuans
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Krazed Killa Kan
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They did, but few use it, because power attacks the way they work are kind of a lame holdover the Mk1. Those that do use it, will find some use, but it's far from optimal.
Eating up both a focus, and all your initials, for that one power attack. And depending on the jack/beast you'll probably have to boost to hit most infantry.
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2015/02/23 05:55:48
Subject: New hordes gargantuans
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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Vertrucio wrote:They did, but few use it, because power attacks the way they work are kind of a lame holdover the Mk1. Those that do use it, will find some use, but it's far from optimal.
Eating up both a focus, and all your initials, for that one power attack. And depending on the jack/beast you'll probably have to boost to hit most infantry.
Hey, if the lightning bird keeps the sweep it's going to be living, you could take it with PKaya and Primal it for MAT 9-10! Automatically Appended Next Post: (Not to mention that a Mammoth only needs four targets to be breaking even on Focus and five before it becomes more efficient to sweep than take initials and buy; the sweep isn't an auto-use trick, it's got situations where it's applicable, just like anything else)
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2015/02/24 18:04:59
Subject: New hordes gargantuans
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Combat Jumping Ragik
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Ill likely grab a hydra. I like the mammoth rules wise, but theres one angle where the sculpt just looks stupid and awful. Like a giant bent slug.
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