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Powerful Chaos Warrior






Comp - Must have fortitude

Daemon Prince, Mark of Slaanesh, Level 4 (Lore of Slaanesh), Daemonic Flight, Chaos Armour, Scaled Skin, Soul Feeder, Sword of Striking, Dragonbane Gem, Charmed Shield (495)

Chaos Sorceror Lord, Mark of Tzeentch, Level 3 (Lore of Metal), Fiery Breath, Disc of Tzeentch, Dispel Scroll, Enchanted Shield, Tailsman of Preservation (385)

Throgg, The Troll King, The Wintertooth Crown (XXX)

Exalted Hero, Mark of Tzeentch, Battle Standard Bearer, Shield, Great Weapon, Barded Daemonic Mount, Third Eye of Tzeentch, Armour of Destiny (264)

Trolls (17) (595)

Marauder Horseman (5), Mark of Slaanesh, Flails, Javelins, Musicain, Standard (110)
Marauder Horseman (5), Mark of Slaanesh, Flails, Javelins, Musicain, Standard (110)

Chimera, Regenerating Flesh (245)

2399/2400

- I never get a chance to run the horde due to comp restrictions so because I have the ability too, I am going too this tournament, I need fortitude and synergy, what would you change?

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Alex 'Salior' Wheatley
- Warriors of Chaos / Savage Ogres
- Most VP - Eatbats 2014
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- 3rd - Blood on the Sands 2013


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Chaos familiar and the dispel scroll are both arcane items, or at least the CF counts as one. So you cannot have both. Can always drop 10 points somewhere and just make him a level 4 for the extra spell, or just leave him level 3 and drop another 5 points to give your chimera the breath weapon.

Also, the armor of destiny, shield, and great weapon seem a little irrellevant on the BSB. If he uses the GW then he can't use the shield, and the armor of destiny doesn't even improve his armor save, in fact the 2+ is worse than the 1+ he'd get from the barded mount. I assume you're taking it for the 4++, but I'd just as soon see him with a talisman of endurance with a 1+ armor save for cheaper.

The list looks really good, though.
   
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 Warptide wrote:
Chaos familiar and the dispel scroll are both arcane items, or at least the CF counts as one. So you cannot have both. Can always drop 10 points somewhere and just make him a level 4 for the extra spell, or just leave him level 3 and drop another 5 points to give your chimera the breath weapon.

Also, the armor of destiny, shield, and great weapon seem a little irrellevant on the BSB. If he uses the GW then he can't use the shield, and the armor of destiny doesn't even improve his armor save, in fact the 2+ is worse than the 1+ he'd get from the barded mount. I assume you're taking it for the 4++, but I'd just as soon see him with a talisman of endurance with a 1+ armor save for cheaper.

The list looks really good, though.


Completly forgot the Arcane item thing.... I will leave him lvl 3 and buff chimera, the only reason he is a lord is because I wanted 3+ ward and scroll

I know the BSB is a tricky one because I'm trying to balance my heroes/lords wardsaves to be 3++, LVL 3 is Chaos, Mounted and I'll give him Dragonhelm for a 2+, BSB is Heavy, Barded Mount and shield, so 2+ against shooting and 3+ combat.... Im toying around atm because I want maximum saves, but I burned scaled skin on my DP

Alex 'Salior' Wheatley
- Warriors of Chaos / Savage Ogres
- Most VP - Eatbats 2014
- 2nd - Bunker Brawl 2014
- 3rd - Blood on the Sands 2013


'A proper Imperial Guard regiment should have enough men to build a starport from corpses, if need be.'

 
   
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Albany, NY

So you're in an uncomped tournament, presumably awash in filth, and you need to take fortitude. Do you see potential problems with busting out the Trollstar? As in, it provides 0 fortitude, and has some well known, easily available counters? Mostly I'm talking about Purple Sun (Death magic is everywhere in the meta now) and to a lesser extent Pit of Shades (Shadow has never really gone out of style), but also flaming stuff - though there are so many trolls in there that flaming isn't that threatening, particularly in combat.

A thought. Otherwise I can dig it. Guessing you're in for some Blood 'N' Glory? Doesn't that mean you break when those 10 horsemen die? Or do they have to down your DP or BSB as well? Show how often I play B&G

- Salvage

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He has a fortitude of 5 ( the general is worth 2). He loses when he drops to 2. I imagine he plans on dropping out of LOS with the horsemen and advancing with everything else. And if any fast cav close in on his horsemen they have to all be killed and they have javelins for pot shots.
Personally I think this list is sneaky as hell. I love it
   
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Albany, NY

MonumentOfRibs wrote:
He has a fortitude of 5 ( the general is worth 2).
I couldn't remember if he broke when he hit or passed 3, so there we go. Not overly afraid of either DP or BSB going down, but I suppose when I face WoC the game is generally going my way when either of those bastards bite it.

I am curious what the fortitude is for. In the NE we often run into scenarios where a unit needs fortitude to contest an objective, in which case my daemons get a bit hosed (few fortitude options for many of the Special/Rare choices). Likewise Supe's Trollstar here.

- Salvage

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Salvage, always a pleasure , Tournament in a few weeks is the idea, and in every game when you break fortitude you award your opponent 200 vp's, so if I start without minimum fortitute I give them a 200 point head start. Normally I agree I dont like it but, needs must .

I know the troll horde has obvious counters and GLAREING chinks in its armour.... however its the first event in a while thats been uncomped (Normally troll hordes make it impossible to take anything else filthy OR tournaments have a maximum unit cap before characters added at 450... less of a horde more of a rabble).... meaning its the first time in a while I can take it and like a junkie in a gas station toilet, feed my addiction of seeing them on the battlefield

He has a fortitude of 5 ( the general is worth 2). He loses when he drops to 2. I imagine he plans on dropping out of LOS with the horsemen and advancing with everything else. And if any fast cav close in on his horsemen they have to all be killed and they have javelins for pot shots.
Personally I think this list is sneaky as hell. I love it


You'll make me blush

Alex 'Salior' Wheatley
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I don't see the Third eye of Tz neither in the sorc or the BSB, I assume one of those 2 are carrying it and if you are afraid of losing fortitude I'd suggest the BSB.

I disagree on letting the BSB go down to 4+ ward, keep it with the armour of destiny, shield, and barded mount. Those points on the shield all well spent when he is on his way to getting into combat. I'd drop the GW thou and replace it with a halberd, having 3+ save in close combat and I1 sounds risky, I rather strike with S6 at I6 and hopefully slay whatever I'm facing before they manage to hit me back.

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I would think in most situations players would target the Slaanesh DP, Chimera, or the Sorcerer lord before going for the BSB (presumably with cannons). But I won't argue against giving him a 3+ ward. I just think AoD is a bit much in this case, considering the other options.
   
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Drop the trolls do 11 in a 4*3 formation with Throgg.

And, as much as I love the Slaaneshi Prince, drop him. Disc characters overtook them when all the wood elves showed up in force. The 3++ wards are the way forward. The 1+/5++ on the prince just doesn't cut it any more.

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You will lose fort when you drop to 3, its 1 for 0-1k, 2 for 1.1k to 2k and 3 for 2.1k to 3k seeing as 2400 in the middle its 3, so you need to keep your general and both units of horsemen alive or general bsb and one unit of horsemen alive, both a tough ask given how weak the horsemen are in the current meta (magic shooting etc).

If its for BB then you do remember about the dual lists right? this will help for some of the counters (i.e purple sun/pit of shades).

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Yeah I know but I was trying to just get the horde out there, however after 3 bad games I have -canned this list because of as DA pointed out, he DP goes down fast, then the chimera, then the rest of my army is a slow horde, a BSB and 2 sub-par fast cav units, all it takes it a lucky shooting/magic phase, I hemerage 700+ points and then the pressure is off my opponant. Its harder to keep them alive than it is to kill them. Scrapped for now, mostly in favour of this list

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/638161.page#7640144

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Alex 'Salior' Wheatley
- Warriors of Chaos / Savage Ogres
- Most VP - Eatbats 2014
- 2nd - Bunker Brawl 2014
- 3rd - Blood on the Sands 2013


'A proper Imperial Guard regiment should have enough men to build a starport from corpses, if need be.'

 
   
 
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