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I made this first Tau/Farsight allies list that I haven't bought models for yet. I have no idea how 40k works, and if this list is even any good, let alone legal/battleforged.

+++ New Roster (1493pts) +++

++ Tau Empire: Codex (2013) (Combined Arms Detachment) (700pts) ++

+ No Force Org Slot (72pts) +

XV8 Crisis Bodyguard Team (72pts)
····Crisis Bodyguard (72pts) [Crisis battlesuit, Missile pod (15pts), Onager Gauntlet (5pts), Plasma rifle (15pts), Vectored retro-thrusters (5pts)]
········Rules: Supporting Fire, Sworn Protector, Very Bulky

+ HQ (200pts) +

Commander (200pts) [Command and Control Node (15pts), Crisis battlesuit, Drone controller (8pts), Multi-spectrum Sensor Suite (20pts), Neuroweb System Jammer (2pts), Shield generator (25pts), Stimulant injector (15pts), Vectored retro-thrusters (5pts), XV8-02 Crisis 'Iridium' Battlesuit (25pts)]
····Rules: Independent Character, Supporting Fire, Very Bulky

+ Elites (125pts) +

Stealth Team (125pts)
····Rules: Infiltrate, Supporting Fire
····Stealth Shas'ui (35pts) [Burst cannon, Stealth battlesuit, Vectored retro-thrusters (5pts)]
········Rules: Shrouded, Stealth
····Stealth Shas'ui (35pts) [Burst cannon, Stealth battlesuit, Vectored retro-thrusters (5pts)]
········Rules: Shrouded, Stealth
····Stealth Shas'vre (55pts) [Fusion blaster (5pts), Markerlight and target lock (5pts), Stealth battlesuit, Vectored retro-thrusters (5pts)]
········Rules: Shrouded, Stealth


+ Troops (108pts) +

Fire Warrior Team (54pts) [6x Fire Warrior Shas'la with pulse rifle (54pts), Photon grenades]
····Rules: Supporting Fire

Fire Warrior Team (54pts) [6x Fire Warrior Shas'la with pulse rifle (54pts), Photon grenades]
····Rules: Supporting Fire
····Profiles:


+ Heavy Support (195pts) +

XV88 Broadside Team (195pts)
····Rules: Extremely Bulky, Supporting Fire
····Broadside Shas'ui (65pts) [Broadside battlesuit, Twin-linked heavy rail rifle, Twin-linked smart missile system]
····Broadside Shas'ui (65pts) [Broadside battlesuit, Twin-linked heavy rail rifle, Twin-linked smart missile system]
····Broadside Shas'ui (65pts) [Broadside battlesuit, Twin-linked heavy rail rifle, Twin-linked smart missile system]


+ Primary Detachment +

Primary Detachment

++ Tau Empire: Supplement - Farsight Enclaves (2013) (Allied Detachment) (793pts) ++

+ HQ (148pts) +

Commander (148pts) [Advanced targeting system (3pts), Crisis battlesuit, Fusion Blades (30pts), Plasma rifle (15pts), Twin-linked burst cannon (15pts)]
····Rules: Fusion Blades, Independent Character, Preferred Enemy (Orks) (CC only), Supporting Fire, Very Bulky


+ Elites (215pts) +

XV104 Riptide (215pts) [Counterfire defence system (5pts), Earth Caste Pilot Array (30pts), Heavy burst cannon, Riptide battlesuit, Riptide Shield Generator, Twin-linked smart missile system]
····Rules: Earth Caste Pilot Array, Nova Reactor, Preferred Enemy (Orks) (CC only), Supporting Fire


+ Troops (318pts) +

XV8 Crisis Team (144pts) [Bonding Knife Ritual (3pts)]
····Rules: Bonding Knife Ritual, Preferred Enemy (Orks) (CC only), Supporting Fire, Very Bulky
····Crisis Shas'ui (47pts) [Crisis battlesuit, Twin-linked fusion blaster (20pts), Vectored retro-thrusters (5pts)]
····Crisis Shas'ui (47pts) [Crisis battlesuit, Target lock (5pts), Twin-linked fusion blaster (20pts)]
····Crisis Shas'ui (47pts) [Crisis battlesuit, Target lock (5pts), Twin-linked fusion blaster (20pts)]

XV8 Crisis Team (compulsory) (174pts) [Bonding Knife Ritual (3pts)]
····Rules: Bonding Knife Ritual, Preferred Enemy (Orks) (CC only), Supporting Fire, Very Bulky
····Crisis Shas'ui (57pts) [Crisis battlesuit, Missile pod (15pts), Plasma rifle (15pts), Vectored retro-thrusters (5pts)]
····Crisis Shas'ui (57pts) [Crisis battlesuit, Missile pod (15pts), Plasma rifle (15pts), Vectored retro-thrusters (5pts)]
····Crisis Shas'ui (57pts) [Crisis battlesuit, Missile pod (15pts), Plasma rifle (15pts), Vectored retro-thrusters (5pts)]


+ Fast Attack (112pts) +

Drone Squadron (112pts)
····Rules: Preferred Enemy (Orks) (CC only), Supporting Fire
····6x Marker Drone (84pts) [6x Markerlight]
····2x Shield Drone (28pts) [2x Shield generator]


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Any tips would be appreciated.

Tip one is don't post google docs. Take the time out of your day to copy paste in the field.

Removed google doc, and pasted in list.

EDIT: Cleaned up "Profiles" from the list.

Well, you probably don't need a Shield Generator, Iridium Suit, and Stims on your Commander. Removing one or two will save you a few points.


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Also, no Fusion Blades. You don't want your Commander (or any Tau really) in CC.


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Don't mix weapons on your Crisis suits. Take two of each (not TL either if you can afford it).

I heard missiles and plasma were a good thing to do, and fusion blades just looked cool as a tank popper tbh. Buff commander probably doesn't need the shield gen, will take that off.

How do Tau use fleet though, if they don't want to be in CC?

Take a look at this revision:

Tau Empire (703)

HQ (152)

Commander (152): Drone controller, Target Lock, x2 Missile Pod, x2 Marker Drone

Troops (108)

6 FW Team (54)

6 FW Tea\m (54)

Elites (233)

2 XV8 Crisis Team (138): x4 Missile Pod, x2 Target Lock, x2 Marker Drone ( put Commander with these guys )

3 Stealth Team (95): x1 Fusion Blaster, x2 Burst Cannon, x1 Target Lock (for Fusion)\

Heavy Support (210)

3 XV88 Broadside Team (210): TL SMS, TL HYMP, x3 EWO


Farsight Enclaves (794)

HQ (152)

Commander (152): Drone controller, Target Lock, x2 Missile Pod, x2 Marker Drone

Elite (220)

XV104 Riptide (220): TL SMS, Ion Accelerator, EWO, ECPA

Troops (338)

XV8 Crisis Team (169): x2 Target Lock, x6 Fusion Blasters, BKR

XV8 Crisis Team (169): x2 Target Lock, x6 Plasma Rifles, BKR

Fast Attack (84)
6 Drone Squadron (84): x6 Marker Drone (Put commander here)

Total: 1497


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Destroyer_Bravo wrote:
I heard missiles and plasma were a good thing to do, and fusion blades just looked cool as a tank popper tbh. Buff commander probably doesn't need the shield gen, will take that off.

How do Tau use fleet though, if they don't want to be in CC?

JSJ. Don't let your enemy get close enough to put you in CC. Every Tau unit has Overwatch, which can help. FE are especially mobile when you have primarily Crisis Suits.

I'm still wondering what the difference is between TL and having 2 of a weapon, and which one is better. I wanted to run buff commander, not gun commander but I guess that works.

Also, can the empire commander not join enclave suits?

Destroyer_Bravo wrote:
I'm still wondering what the difference is between TL and having 2 of a weapon, and which one is better. I wanted to run buff commander, not gun commander but I guess that works.

Twin-linked just let's you re-roll, but having double weapons gives you more shots. More shots is always a good thing, so you want to take double weapons instead of TL if your points allow. Sorry, where were you going to run the Buffmander?

The only HQs from standard Empire not allowed with an FE list are Aun'va and Shadowsun.

 the_kraken wrote:

Destroyer_Bravo wrote:
I'm still wondering what the difference is between TL and having 2 of a weapon, and which one is better. I wanted to run buff commander, not gun commander but I guess that works.

Twin-linked just let's you re-roll, but having double weapons gives you more shots. More shots is always a good thing, so you want to take double weapons instead of TL if your points allow. Sorry, where were you going to run the Buffmander?

The only HQs from standard Empire not allowed with an FE list are Aun'va and Shadowsun.

I intended for the buff commander to rain markerlights on the enemy, is that a bad role to have CnC and MS3 for?

There are always better sources for Markerlights. I know a lot of guys on here recommend Tetras. (Those are FW models). I think Sky Rays can do some good work on the Markerlight provisional front.

Don't bother with CCN and MSSS. You can use the points better elsewhere.

This is what I have right now.


++ Tau Empire: Codex (2013) (Combined Arms Detachment) (780pts) ++

+ No Force Org Slot (153pts) +

XV8 Crisis Bodyguard Team (153pts)
····Crisis Bodyguard (62pts) [Crisis battlesuit, 2x Missile pod (30pts)]
········Rules: Supporting Fire, Sworn Protector, Very Bulky
····Crisis Bodyguard (67pts) [Crisis battlesuit, 2x Missile pod (30pts), Target lock (5pts)]
········Rules: Supporting Fire, Sworn Protector, Very Bulky
····2x Marker Drone (24pts) [2x Markerlight]

+ HQ (199pts) +

Commander (199pts) [Command and Control Node (15pts), Crisis battlesuit, Drone controller (8pts), Multi-spectrum Sensor Suite (20pts), Neuroweb System Jammer (2pts), Stimulant injector (15pts), Vectored retro-thrusters (5pts), XV8-02 Crisis 'Iridium' Battlesuit (25pts)]
····Rules: Independent Character, Supporting Fire, Very Bulky
····2x Marker Drone (24pts) [2x Markerlight]

+ Elites (110pts) +

Stealth Team (110pts)
····Rules: Infiltrate, Supporting Fire
····Stealth Shas'ui (30pts) [Burst cannon, Stealth battlesuit]
········Rules: Shrouded, Stealth
····Stealth Shas'ui (30pts) [Burst cannon, Stealth battlesuit]
········Rules: Shrouded, Stealth
····Stealth Shas'vre (50pts) [Fusion blaster (5pts), Markerlight and target lock (5pts), Stealth battlesuit]
········Rules: Shrouded, Stealth


+ Troops (108pts) +

Fire Warrior Team (54pts) [6x Fire Warrior Shas'la with pulse rifle (54pts), Photon grenades]
····Rules: Supporting Fire


Fire Warrior Team (54pts) [6x Fire Warrior Shas'la with pulse rifle (54pts), Photon grenades]
····Rules: Supporting Fire

+ Heavy Support (210pts) +

XV88 Broadside Team (210pts)
····Rules: Extremely Bulky, Supporting Fire
····Broadside Shas'ui (70pts) [Broadside battlesuit, Early warning override (5pts), Twin-linked high-yield missile pod, Twin-linked smart missile system]
····Broadside Shas'ui (70pts) [Broadside battlesuit, Early warning override (5pts), Twin-linked high-yield missile pod, Twin-linked smart missile system]
····Broadside Shas'ui (70pts) [Broadside battlesuit, Early warning override (5pts), Twin-linked high-yield missile pod, Twin-linked smart missile system]



++ Tau Empire: Supplement - Farsight Enclaves (2013) (Allied Detachment) (720pts) ++

+ HQ (110pts) +

Commander (110pts) [Crisis battlesuit, Twin-linked plasma rifle (20pts), Vectored retro-thrusters (5pts)]
····Rules: Independent Character, Preferred Enemy (Orks) (CC only), Supporting Fire, Very Bulky


+ Elites (220pts) +

XV104 Riptide (220pts) [Early warning override (5pts), Earth Caste Pilot Array (30pts), Ion accelerator (5pts), Riptide battlesuit, Riptide Shield Generator, Twin-linked smart missile system]
····Rules: Earth Caste Pilot Array, Nova Reactor, Preferred Enemy (Orks) (CC only), Supporting Fire


+ Troops (306pts) +

XV8 Crisis Team (153pts) [Bonding Knife Ritual (3pts)]
····Rules: Bonding Knife Ritual, Preferred Enemy (Orks) (CC only), Supporting Fire, Very Bulky
····Crisis Shas'ui (42pts) [Crisis battlesuit, Twin-linked fusion blaster (20pts)]
····Crisis Shas'ui (42pts) [Crisis battlesuit, Twin-linked fusion blaster (20pts)]
····Crisis Shas'ui (42pts) [Crisis battlesuit, Twin-linked fusion blaster (20pts)]
····2x Shield Drone (24pts) [2x Shield generator]


XV8 Crisis Team (compulsory) (153pts) [Bonding Knife Ritual (3pts)]
····Rules: Bonding Knife Ritual, Preferred Enemy (Orks) (CC only), Supporting Fire, Very Bulky
····Crisis Shas'ui (42pts) [Crisis battlesuit, Twin-linked plasma rifle (20pts)]
····Crisis Shas'ui (42pts) [Crisis battlesuit, Twin-linked plasma rifle (20pts)]
····Crisis Shas'ui (42pts) [Crisis battlesuit, Twin-linked plasma rifle (20pts)]
····2x Shield Drone (24pts) [2x Shield generator]


+ Fast Attack (84pts) +

Drone Squadron (84pts)
····Rules: Preferred Enemy (Orks) (CC only), Supporting Fire
····6x Marker Drone (84pts) [6x Markerlight]




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How is that?

EDIT: I should move the drone controller to the non-buff commander and leave the buff commander with plasma or missile crisis suits.

Well, it's whatever floats your boat really. Are you sure you want the XV8's as Bodyguards? Just leaving them as a standard team saves you points that you can put elsewhere. Also, having Shas'vre won't add much to your Stealth Team. Again, points that you could use elsewhere.

Also, your FE Commander has another slot open that you could be using. It would be especially good for a FE Signature System like Talisman of Arthas Moloch. And your Marker Drone Squadron would really benefit from a Drone Controller.

Destroyer_Bravo wrote:
This is what I have right now...

You need to remove all the individual points costs from your lists before a MOD sees it, then reformat it into something more readable if you want more comments.

Instead of cut and pasting:

XV8 Crisis Bodyguard Team (153pts)
····Crisis Bodyguard (62pts) [Crisis battlesuit, 2x Missile pod (30pts)]
········Rules: Supporting Fire, Sworn Protector, Very Bulky
····Crisis Bodyguard (67pts) [Crisis battlesuit, 2x Missile pod (30pts), Target lock (5pts)]
········Rules: Supporting Fire, Sworn Protector, Very Bulky
····2x Marker Drone (24pts) [2x Markerlight]

Just write:

Crisis Bodyguard x2, Dual MP, 2x Marker Drones 153pts

Most dakkanaughts (myself included) have criminally short attention spans, and are turned off by walls of cut and paste battlescribe text

I dropped a Stealth team, how is this?

++ Tau Empire: Codex (2013) (Combined Arms Detachment) ++

+ HQ +

Commander: CnC, MS3, PENchip, NSJ, Onager Gauntlet, Iridium, x2 missile pods, velocity tracker, target lock

+ Elites +

XV8 Crisis Team: x6 Fusion Blasters, x2 Target Lock

+ Troops +

Fire Warrior Team

Fire Warrior Team

+ Heavy Support +

XV88 Broadside Team: TL HYMP, TL SMS, x1 Seeker Missile (Buff commander joins these guys)

++ Tau Empire: Supplement - Farsight Enclaves (2013) (Allied Detachment) ++

+ HQ +

Commander: Drone controller, x2 Missile Pods, Target Lock, x2 Marker Drones

+ Elites +

XV104 Riptide IA, TL SMS, EWO, ECPA

+ Troops +

XV8 Crisis Team: x6 Missile Pods, x3 Target Lock, x6 Marker Drones, BKR (Mark'O joins these guys)

XV8 Crisis Team: x6 Plasma Rifles, BKR

++ Tau Empire: Codex (2013) (Combined Arms Detachment) ++

+ HQ +

Commander: CnC, MS3, PENchip, NSJ, Onager Gauntlet, Iridium, x2 missile pods, velocity tracker, target lock

+ Elites +

XV8 Crisis Team: x6 Fusion Blasters, x2 Target Lock Ditch one Target Lock. You'll only need two.

+ Troops +

Fire Warrior Team

Fire Warrior Team

+ Heavy Support +

XV88 Broadside Team: TL HYMP, TL SMS, x1 Seeker Missile (Buff commander joins these guys)

++ Tau Empire: Supplement - Farsight Enclaves (2013) (Allied Detachment) ++

+ HQ +

Commander: Drone controller, x2 Missile Pods, Target Lock, x2 Marker Drones

+ Elites +

XV104 Riptide IA, TL SMS, EWO, ECPA

+ Troops +

XV8 Crisis Team: x6 Missile Pods, x3 Target Lock, x6 Marker Drones, BKR (Mark'O joins these guys) Ditch one Target Lock. You'll only need two.

XV8 Crisis Team: x6 Plasma Rifles, BKR

It looks pretty solid to me otherwise. You may want to consider adding a Sky Ray for some AA.

The thing I'm worried about is the marker drones not being able to chain markerlights for the broadsides, because one of the un-target lock equipped suits shot something.

I'm pretty sure the fusion squad already has only 2 target locks though.

Also, that was pretty tight at 1500 points. I don't think a skyray fits.

Destroyer_Bravo wrote:
The thing I'm worried about is the marker drones not being able to chain markerlights for the broadsides, because one of the un-target lock equipped suits shot something.

I'm pretty sure the fusion squad already has only 2 target locks though.

Also, that was pretty tight at 1500 points. I don't think a skyray fits.

Well, just in future, if you know your opponent is going to be fielding Flyers, be prepared to change your list up and get a Sky Ray in there. It's not vital if you don't have Flyers to deal with though.

I'm going to try and build that list I last linked, thanks.

Destroyer_Bravo wrote:
I'm going to try and build that list I last linked, thanks.

Good luck! Let me know how it does in the field.