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Sorc-60
2x10 cultists-100

Hellblade, malefic ammo -115


Adamantine Lance
3 Knight Paladins-1125

adl+quad gun-100
Sorc and cultist cower here

or i get 2nd hellblade without rending upgrade.

Should I use knight errants instead? Using a formation that says no restrictions, I can bypass the ally matrix of come the apocalypse right?

I plan to use paper craft to make everything besides sorc and cultists which are the only models i own from this list.

You would still be come the apocalypse allies so you have deployment issues.


You aren't really gaining anything with the sorc and cultists make them an allied detachment? Have one of the knights as the warlord (I think that's allowed , and you might even get an invun bonus
. .. regular marines do Ariel escort much better than chaos. A fire raptor would be preferable.

The A lance is obviously really good. Would mix errants and paladins for diversity .


Paper crafting knights sounds really hard..

Tho weirdly I do have papercraft helltalons I never use..

Show me a loyalist list with the best anti air please.

I chose to main csm bcuz of the cad tax minimum of 160 and to possibly field 2 hellblades as anti air.

 Filch wrote:
Show me a loyalist list with the best anti air please.

I chose to main csm bcuz of the cad tax minimum of 160 and to possibly field 2 hellblades as anti air.

2x Ravens - MM/ AC

1x Firestorm Redoubt - + any char w/ bs 5 of better

1x Fire Raptor

Simple Anti air list, i run this with my Iron hands when i feel the need to move. Also its like 750-900- pts not even punching a calculator

I was thinking stormtalons but yeah. The new interceptor could be a winner too.

 xSoulgrinderx wrote:

 Filch wrote:
Show me a loyalist list with the best anti air please.

I chose to main csm bcuz of the cad tax minimum of 160 and to possibly field 2 hellblades as anti air.

2x Ravens - MM/ AC

1x Firestorm Redoubt - + any char w/ bs 5 of better

1x Fire Raptor

Simple Anti air list, i run this with my Iron hands when i feel the need to move. Also its like 750-900- pts not even punching a calculator

Adamantine Lance is already 1125pts. How am I suppose to squeeze 700-900 pts into 1500?

Are those Storm Ravens? What kind of ravens? Multi Melta and assault cannon?
Are storm Talons cheaper?

Isnt fire raptor like 275pts?

What is the cad minimum tax for SM?
Librarian and scouts?

Oh. I thought you were asking for what a regular AA list would look like in regards to your lists ability to handle it... my bad. Hah. No the list suggested was a flyer list you may ecounter.

thank you anyways. i should have been clear.

There is only 375pts left for anti air. Is there a formation strictly for anti air?

This army would just be 2 formations. Would it be unbound? But someone said i should just main IK and dub one as the warlord. If i do that do I have to roll for ranks for the other 2?

yes you do I believe, plus as having one as your warlord you get better traits. The firestorm Redoubt is strickly AA and ruins flies days hardcore. Its cheap enough that you could probably get that and a bs 5 dude for 375

Soulgrinder, I see you and raise you one better. lolz

To fight your 1850 list of 3 drakes and the same adamantine lance

Sorc-60 taking malefic to unlock multiple infernal relics
2x10 Cultist-100

Fast
3x Hellblades with helstorm ac-345

Heavy
Fire Raptor Gunship, Reaper AC battery-210

Detachment
Adamantine Lance-1120
1 Errant as Warlord
2 Paladins

Total-1835 I really dunno what to spend 15pts on.

Your baledrakes can only vector strike my hell blades. If I win air superiority I will have an edge when it comes time to fight Ada Lance Vs. Ada Lance. Lolz!

So how do you think objective control will do? What if the knights get tied up in CC?