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2015/05/14 19:37:45
Subject: What's the matter with Warseer?
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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Pretty self-explanatory. I am a newcomer to 40k forums but I know 1d4chan for a while. I read an article about Warseer on this website the other day and the author was quite pissed off about this community.
I'd like to find out why so much hate about them (where I've never been a single time)?
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2015/05/14 20:44:07
Subject: What's the matter with Warseer?
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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Go there and find out for yourself.
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2015/05/14 20:51:45
Subject: What's the matter with Warseer?
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok
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Back when it was Portal, it rocked. The biggest thing that turns me off is actually the lack of "first unread" function in their forums.
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2015/05/14 20:55:25
Subject: What's the matter with Warseer?
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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Yes you're right, I'll definitly compile and analyze the one hundred thousands threads related to 40k to find out.
Freaking genius.
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2015/05/14 20:55:30
Subject: What's the matter with Warseer?
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I think it just comes down to a few things:
1) Places on the Net are all different, for the most part.
2) People get upset over just about..anything?
As far as Warseer goes, I've never had any problem with the place!
Just remember that Rule #1 applies at all times here - even if people aren't registered here as users.
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2015/05/14 21:03:12
Subject: What's the matter with Warseer?
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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docdoom77 wrote:Back when it was Portal, it rocked. The biggest thing that turns me off is actually the lack of "first unread" function in their forums.
*Portent.
Also, FWIW all vbulletin based forums do have a "first unread". It's the little circle with the two down pointing arrows on it to the left of the thread title.
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Games Workshop Delenda Est.
Users on ignore- 53.
If you break apart my or anyone else's posts line by line I will not read them. |
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2015/05/14 21:16:34
Subject: What's the matter with Warseer?
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Brigadier General
The new Sick Man of Europe
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While Wamp's e-mag Portal did get featured the front page a couple Warseer's previous was actually "Portent".
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DC:90+S+G++MB++I--Pww211+D++A++/fWD390R++T(F)DM+
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2015/05/14 21:18:54
Subject: What's the matter with Warseer?
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Norn Queen
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Wow Portent. I was on that circa 2002 iirc.
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Dman137 wrote:
goobs is all you guys will ever be
By 1-irt: Still as long as Hissy keeps showing up this is one of the most entertaining threads ever.
"Feelin' goods, good enough". |
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2015/05/14 21:49:32
Subject: What's the matter with Warseer?
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Brigadier General
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RazgrizOne wrote:Yes you're right, I'll definitly compile and analyze the one hundred thousands threads related to 40k to find out.
Freaking genius.
If you want to start a conversation about something someone said, then you need to link to that post. Otherwise, you're just starting fires.
Further, it's generaly best for one forum not to complain too much about another. It almost never goes well, and just makes bad blood.
All this to say, Guardsmanwaffle was right. If you want to find out what's wrong with another forum, go look at it for yourself or search the blogosphere. If there's something amiss, then google will find it for you fast without bringing out controversy at another forum.
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2015/05/14 22:27:38
Subject: What's the matter with Warseer?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I personally find the atmosphere on DakkaDakka to be more to my liking than Warseer, and I stopped checking Warseer more than a year ago maybe. The forums have seen a declining membership too, although that could just be my impression as opposed to an objective fact. I think Dakka is very good at promoting reasonably constructive discussion, and that is an important point for me. Dakka is also much larger than Warseer, and I have found that news on DakkaDakka is pretty darn quick and reliable, which means that you can get your breaking news on Dakka without having to frequent other sites just for the purposes of getting the latest gaming news. In fact, DakkaDakka is big enough that (in my opinion at least) you can peruse Dakka and have a pretty good thumb on the pulse of the table top wargaming community, at least in broad strokes, without having to spend a lot of time bouncing around a ton of different sites. Additionally, the Warseer owner/admins/mods are a little too...gunshy...I guess I'll say, about GW-related issues. Consequently I find the moderating to be a little heavy-handed on Warseer.
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Kirasu: Have we fallen so far that we are excited that GW is giving us the opportunity to spend 58$ for JUST the rules? Surprised it's not "Dataslate: Assault Phase"
AlexHolker: "The power loader is a forklift. The public doesn't complain about a forklift not having frontal armour protecting the crew compartment because the only enemy it is designed to face is the OHSA violation."
AlexHolker: "Allow me to put it this way: Paramount is Skynet, reboots are termination attempts, and your childhood is John Connor."
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2015/05/14 22:32:45
Subject: What's the matter with Warseer?
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Imperial Guard Landspeeder Pilot
On moon miranda.
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Warseer has simply gotten a whole lot slower than it used to be, it peaked around ~2010 and has been getting slower and smaller since then. I'm not quite sure why. It still seems to be one of the more active "leak/information" locations however.
Some people seem to have had issues with moderation over there, it can be a little uptight on wanting certain topics to remain in certain places, but aside from that I've never seen any moderation action there that I thought was unreasonable.
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IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT.
New Heavy Gear Log! Also...Grey Knights!
The correct pronunciation is Imperial Guard and Stormtroopers, "Astra Militarum" and "Tempestus Scions" are something you'll find at Hogwarts. |
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2015/05/14 22:38:07
Subject: What's the matter with Warseer?
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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I also post regularly there. It boils down to they have a lot of pro-GW, GW can do no wrong types and even some of the moderators there basically bend over backwards for GW; I think with some rumors and leaks Warseer will remove it because they're so afraid GW will come after them, and they remove things like that petition that was going around because it was painting GW out as the bad guy. Or being quick to close threads that talk about something that might be related to another thread but is trying to discuss something different.
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2015/05/14 22:49:36
Subject: What's the matter with Warseer?
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The Hammer of Witches
A new day, a new time zone.
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RazgrizOne wrote:Pretty self-explanatory. I am a newcomer to 40k forums but I know 1d4chan for a while. I read an article about Warseer on this website the other day and the author was quite pissed off about this community.
Whiny nobodies on the internet have no problem finding something to whine about.
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"-Nonsense, the Inquisitor and his retinue are our hounoured guests, of course we should invite them to celebrate Four-armed Emperor-day with us..." Thought for the Day - Never use the powerfist hand to wipe. |
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2015/05/14 23:12:36
Subject: What's the matter with Warseer?
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Killer Klaivex
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I remember hearing about the user statistics re: Dakka and warseer. I believe we outstrip them by a considerable margin these days.
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2015/05/14 23:26:02
Subject: Re:What's the matter with Warseer?
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Lord of the Fleet
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I've never really spent any time on warseer, maybe just the occasional glance to see what the hobby section had for Guard stuff, but I've found that Dakka has one of the better forum layouts with nice and easy to use functions, like the ever useful first unread button.
I have no issues with the mods here despite receiving my fair share of warnings and/or bans, and Dakka is quite diverse in both viewpoints and hobby scope.
It'll be interesting to see how the forum develops with a few members of the mod team/ownership now releasing their own wargame and studio.
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Mordian Iron Guard - Major Overhaul in Progress
+Spaceship Gaming Enthusiast+
Live near Halifax, NS? Ask me about our group, the Ordo Haligonias! |
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2015/05/15 00:04:21
Subject: What's the matter with Warseer?
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Hellish Haemonculus
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Ketara wrote:I remember hearing about the user statistics re: Dakka and warseer. I believe we outstrip them by a considerable margin these days.
The last time Legoburner posted stats on it, yeah we did.
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2015/05/15 01:12:02
Subject: What's the matter with Warseer?
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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i never understood people's dislike of Warseer...
i've always enjoyed visiting their site...
then again, i am also pro- GW, so that may be why i don't have an issue with Warseer...
honestly though, i don't have an issue with any of the miniature related sights out there...
i just love minis, and looking at pictures of minis...
it's like my version of kittens on the internet ...
cheers
jah
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Paint like ya got a pair!
Available for commissions.
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2015/05/15 02:29:05
Subject: What's the matter with Warseer?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Warseer has great tactics threads and great painting threads. However thier general discussion and news and rumoured are overly moderated and heavy handed. I stopped visiting them with any regularity almost a year ago. Although I use to love looking at some of the army painting threads to get ideas.
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2015/05/15 02:34:54
Subject: What's the matter with Warseer?
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Discriminating Deathmark Assassin
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gungo wrote:However thier general discussion and news and rumoured are overly moderated and heavy handed.
Sounds like /r/warhammer
I asked a question when I first started if they had a site like War Machine has Battle College to get an overview of the armies. Mod told me basically to gak myself and buy the Codexs
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2015/05/15 02:39:51
Subject: Re:What's the matter with Warseer?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I joined there and here the same day when I first started looking into 40K as a player rather than a painter. I think my account there has a mighty four posts, two of which were intro based.
The community just felt less accessible and a little bit like something you had to learn to use before posting - I'm all for respecting a conversational venue... But in my mind, good conversations don't require an instruction manual, and a shoe up the arse when you can't find the unspoken goalposts. Just good people taking part.
Some folk match up better with some sites, some don't. No 'hate' from me.
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2015/05/15 05:47:20
Subject: What's the matter with Warseer?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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They're a strange place. I was banned from there for telling a person straight up that Bikers > Terminators and the reasons for such.
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CaptainStabby wrote:If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
jy2 wrote:BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
vipoid wrote:Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
MarsNZ wrote:ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever. |
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2015/05/15 07:23:46
Subject: Re:What's the matter with Warseer?
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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I used to post on Warseer a fair bit. It's good enough, but I prefer the atmosphere on Dakka (which tends to be a bit more relaxed), and that this site has expanded to follow the trends of the industry. Believe Warseer just had an 'other games' section when you scroll about half a mile down the page, whereas this site has full historical sections, it's own Infinity and other game sections (board & misc amongst others). Gallery is much better here, too, as well as the general layout and aspect of the site.
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2015/05/15 07:41:39
Subject: Re:What's the matter with Warseer?
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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If you want to start a conversation about something someone said, then you need to link to that post. Otherwise, you're just starting fires.
Further, it's generaly best for one forum not to complain too much about another. It almost never goes well, and just makes bad blood
My point here was not to start a war between forums. I just wanted to know Dakkanauts opinions on this forum, as they are often constructive and well argumented. I stalked stuff about Warseer all over the Internet and I wanted to confront my findings with you guys & girls. In social science, it's always better to meet people and get the information from them than stockpiling sparse writings on a given topic !
Moreover, plenty of people are asking "go find by yourself" questions on this forum and I though mine was worth the shot. For these reasons, I did not understand very well why the first response I got was so rude. But whatever.
Thanks to your answers, I can have now a better snapshot of Warseer and that was my aim at the very beginning.
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2015/05/15 08:57:10
Subject: What's the matter with Warseer?
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Dwarf Runelord Banging an Anvil
Way on back in the deep caves
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I started a thread there in Off Topic about Chicken Wings a few years back, and it was locked for being Off Topic?
Haven't been back much since then, besides, this place has everything.
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2015/05/15 09:44:21
Subject: What's the matter with Warseer?
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Leaping Khawarij
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I think it's the same with any kind of forum. Certain ones have certain leanings it's true here you can go a bit of tangent and nobody bats an eye unless it lasts too long.
In warseer the mods are very harsh and well it's not the same as it was. I left for a bit went back but again certain individuals are trying to direct the forum in a certain way this happens on most forums, it went very serious very fast.
There tends to be a rise in an ideology of this isn't fair to x y or z.
It's happening to most niche places.
To answer your question. Nothing is really wrong with it, it just evolves just like every place reacting to new people.
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2015/05/15 10:43:21
Subject: What's the matter with Warseer?
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Lit By the Flames of Prospero
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jah-joshua wrote:i never understood people's dislike of Warseer...
i've always enjoyed visiting their site...
then again, i am also pro- GW, so that may be why i don't have an issue with Warseer...
honestly though, i don't have an issue with any of the miniature related sights out there...
i just love minis, and looking at pictures of minis...
it's like my version of kittens on the internet ...
cheers
jah
Its pretty much the same for me, I take everything that people say on the internet with a pinch of salt anyway,
There will always be whiners everywhere, even here !
I find it best just to not get involved with the chat and look at the pictures !!
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2015/05/15 11:25:35
Subject: Re:What's the matter with Warseer?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Like all things online and offline, we just divide ourselves into "opposing groups" and draw our territorial lines due to the illusion of asymmetric insight / naive realism. The boundaries online are simply more evident, and consequently more obvious. In truth, we probably share more values and empathy with each other, each group and even the diabolical GW then we think we do.
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2015/05/15 11:48:03
Subject: What's the matter with Warseer?
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Posts with Authority
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Slayer-Fan123 wrote:They're a strange place. I was banned from there for telling a person straight up that Bikers > Terminators and the reasons for such.
Heh. I was banned by a certain mod just because, as far as I can see, he took a dislike to me and my GW views.
And I still get automated 'happy birthday' emails from there.
Pacific wrote:Believe Warseer just had an 'other games' section when you scroll about half a mile down the page, whereas this site has full historical sections, it's own Infinity and other game sections (board & misc amongst others).
To be fair, Warseer had a bit more than that; and although I know Dakka is primarily a GW-focused site, I don't know if it's a huge improvement, especially when you still have to scroll half a mile past about a dozen 40K and WHFB boards. (including 'proposed rules' and 'tactics')
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Rayvon wrote:
I find it best just to not get involved with the chat and look at the pictures !!
Great endorsement of a discussion forum, then.
hurtmypony wrote:
Like all things online and offline, we just divide ourselves into "opposing groups" and draw our territorial lines due to the illusion of asymmetric insight / naive realism. The boundaries online are simply more evident, and consequently more obvious.
Try being banned for spurious reasons, then be so lofty and impartial about it.
In truth, we probably share more values and empathy with each other... than we think we do.
Not after all the GW complainers have been shoved out.
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2015/05/15 13:34:17
Subject: What's the matter with Warseer?
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Painting Within the Lines
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Warseer is a little easier to have a GW related conversation I think, simply because a conversation doesn't degenerate into anti-GW back slapping, and the resultant reaction to that. Less people on there have had their hobby hearts broken I think.
But for other games or a more varied chat, it's not quite as good, simply value there isn't the member count or the more diverse set of opinions
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2015/05/15 13:48:41
Subject: What's the matter with Warseer?
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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That's weird to see such differences between two very similar forums. I would like to know which kind of people are attending Warseer, perhaps it is exactly the same as Dakka but they are overshadowed by a few harsh moderators/loud and despising people. I don't say Dakka has zero members like this bw.
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