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2015/05/28 17:57:48
Subject: [1850] - Orks - TAC
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok
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I'm looking for thoughts and feedback for a list I'm planning to bring to a friendly tourney. My "local meta" isn't super competitive, but I know the rest of the gang will be bringing the heat for this one and I'd like to try something a bit more WAAC than I usually bring
Primarily I'll be up against MEQ of all varieties, some static gunlines, a good amount of AV14, and at least one or two armies with multiple flyers.
I usually run my Orks with a speed freak theme, as you'll see. The core of the army so far:
CAD
HQ
Warboss - EA, PK, BP, DLS
Painboy
ELITES
Nobz x10 - EA, 1x PK, 4x BC, Battlewagon w/ RR + GR + 2x BS (painboy and warboss go here)
TROOPS
Boyz x12 - Nob w/ PK + BP, Trukk w/ RR
Boyz x12 - Nob w/ PK + BP, Trukk w/ RR
Boyz x12 - Nob w/ PK + BP, Trukk w/ RR
Boyz x20 - Shootas, 2x BS, Nob w/ Kombi-Skorcha + BP
FAST ATTACK
4x Deffkoptas - RL
Dakkajet - 3x supa shoota
HEAVY SUPPORT
Battlewagon - RR, 2x BS (for the shoota boys)
Which leaves about 300 points left to decide how to spend, not that this core is set in stone either.
Some options I've considered:
- 4x Warbuggies w/ RLs, for some more rokkits
- Tankbustas. I've yet to use them, but apparently they're a very competitive option in the codex. How would dakka run these?
- Replacing the nobz with 5x meganobz w/ 2x kombi skorchas and the warboss with a megaboss. Less bodies, and slower, but much tougher, and probably a bit cheaper.
- dropping the nobz altogether and getting moar stuff. it's a lot of eggs in one basket, but it's done right by me in most of the games I've played, and I'm not sure what else I would do with my HQs.
- Small unit of bikes (6?) with a nob
- Mek gunz. This is another competitive option I see a lot, but I worry they would just get left behind by the rest of the army.
Also, choice of detachments. I feel like the Horde isn't very good for this type of list with lots of smaller units, especially compared to ObSec, but I could be wrong?
Thanks in advance for your thoughts and suggestions.
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2015/05/28 19:15:12
Subject: [1850] - Orks - TAC
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Screamin' Stormboy
Southern California
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I would look at getting 4 rokkit buggies in there and two units of tankbustas in trukks. This would give you three units to annoy and harass your enemy while the rest of the army smashes things up.
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2015/05/29 00:04:35
Subject: [1850] - Orks - TAC
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Nasty Nob
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Really though, find ways to deliver a lot of tankbustas, they shoot everything well except 2+ Armor saves and blobs melta for harder tanks and MCs with a 2+(fear sucks though). And your infantry can handle blobs and 2+ Armor saves.
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2015/05/29 15:16:32
Subject: [1850] - Orks - TAC
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok
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Yeah I'm inclined to agree with moar rokkits.
But I'm unsure how to run tankbusta units, aside from putting them in trukks. Minimum units w/o upgrades? Some extra bodies and a boss nob?
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2015/05/29 19:19:56
Subject: [1850] - Orks - TAC
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Guardsman with Flashlight
Ottawa, Canada
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Jambles wrote:I'm looking for thoughts and feedback for a list I'm planning to bring to a friendly tourney. My "local meta" isn't super competitive, but I know the rest of the gang will be bringing the heat for this one and I'd like to try something a bit more WAAC than I usually bring
Primarily I'll be up against MEQ of all varieties, some static gunlines, a good amount of AV14, and at least one or two armies with multiple flyers.
I usually run my Orks with a speed freak theme, as you'll see. The core of the army so far:
CAD
HQ
Warboss - EA, PK, BP, DLS
Painboy
ELITES
Nobz x10 - EA, 1x PK, 4x BC, Battlewagon w/ RR + GR + 2x BS (painboy and warboss go here)
TROOPS
Boyz x12 - Nob w/ PK + BP, Trukk w/ RR
Boyz x12 - Nob w/ PK + BP, Trukk w/ RR
Boyz x12 - Nob w/ PK + BP, Trukk w/ RR
Boyz x20 - Shootas, 2x BS, Nob w/ Kombi-Skorcha + BP
FAST ATTACK
4x Deffkoptas - RL
Dakkajet - 3x supa shoota
HEAVY SUPPORT
Battlewagon - RR, 2x BS (for the shoota boys)
Which leaves about 300 points left to decide how to spend, not that this core is set in stone either.
Some options I've considered:
- 4x Warbuggies w/ RLs, for some more rokkits
- Tankbustas. I've yet to use them, but apparently they're a very competitive option in the codex. How would dakka run these?
- Replacing the nobz with 5x meganobz w/ 2x kombi skorchas and the warboss with a megaboss. Less bodies, and slower, but much tougher, and probably a bit cheaper.
- dropping the nobz altogether and getting moar stuff. it's a lot of eggs in one basket, but it's done right by me in most of the games I've played, and I'm not sure what else I would do with my HQs.
- Small unit of bikes (6?) with a nob
- Mek gunz. This is another competitive option I see a lot, but I worry they would just get left behind by the rest of the army.
Also, choice of detachments. I feel like the Horde isn't very good for this type of list with lots of smaller units, especially compared to ObSec, but I could be wrong?
Thanks in advance for your thoughts and suggestions.
This list is butts, yo. #Wyverns4lyfe #OrksareDorks #ButtsButt
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2015/05/29 19:29:27
Subject: [1850] - Orks - TAC
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok
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timtoid wrote: Jambles wrote:I'm looking for thoughts and feedback for a list I'm planning to bring to a friendly tourney. My "local meta" isn't super competitive, but I know the rest of the gang will be bringing the heat for this one and I'd like to try something a bit more WAAC than I usually bring
Primarily I'll be up against MEQ of all varieties, some static gunlines, a good amount of AV14, and at least one or two armies with multiple flyers.
I usually run my Orks with a speed freak theme, as you'll see. The core of the army so far:
CAD
HQ
Warboss - EA, PK, BP, DLS
Painboy
ELITES
Nobz x10 - EA, 1x PK, 4x BC, Battlewagon w/ RR + GR + 2x BS (painboy and warboss go here)
TROOPS
Boyz x12 - Nob w/ PK + BP, Trukk w/ RR
Boyz x12 - Nob w/ PK + BP, Trukk w/ RR
Boyz x12 - Nob w/ PK + BP, Trukk w/ RR
Boyz x20 - Shootas, 2x BS, Nob w/ Kombi-Skorcha + BP
FAST ATTACK
4x Deffkoptas - RL
Dakkajet - 3x supa shoota
HEAVY SUPPORT
Battlewagon - RR, 2x BS (for the shoota boys)
Which leaves about 300 points left to decide how to spend, not that this core is set in stone either.
Some options I've considered:
- 4x Warbuggies w/ RLs, for some more rokkits
- Tankbustas. I've yet to use them, but apparently they're a very competitive option in the codex. How would dakka run these?
- Replacing the nobz with 5x meganobz w/ 2x kombi skorchas and the warboss with a megaboss. Less bodies, and slower, but much tougher, and probably a bit cheaper.
- dropping the nobz altogether and getting moar stuff. it's a lot of eggs in one basket, but it's done right by me in most of the games I've played, and I'm not sure what else I would do with my HQs.
- Small unit of bikes (6?) with a nob
- Mek gunz. This is another competitive option I see a lot, but I worry they would just get left behind by the rest of the army.
Also, choice of detachments. I feel like the Horde isn't very good for this type of list with lots of smaller units, especially compared to ObSec, but I could be wrong?
Thanks in advance for your thoughts and suggestions.
This list is butts, yo. #Wyverns4lyfe #OrksareDorks #ButtsButt
Some people happen to LIKE butts. A LOT.
Especially Leman Russ butts. It's where the rokkits go.
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2015/05/29 19:35:16
Subject: [1850] - Orks - TAC
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Guardsman with Flashlight
Ottawa, Canada
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Jambles wrote: timtoid wrote: Jambles wrote:I'm looking for thoughts and feedback for a list I'm planning to bring to a friendly tourney. My "local meta" isn't super competitive, but I know the rest of the gang will be bringing the heat for this one and I'd like to try something a bit more WAAC than I usually bring
Primarily I'll be up against MEQ of all varieties, some static gunlines, a good amount of AV14, and at least one or two armies with multiple flyers.
I usually run my Orks with a speed freak theme, as you'll see. The core of the army so far:
CAD
HQ
Warboss - EA, PK, BP, DLS
Painboy
ELITES
Nobz x10 - EA, 1x PK, 4x BC, Battlewagon w/ RR + GR + 2x BS (painboy and warboss go here)
TROOPS
Boyz x12 - Nob w/ PK + BP, Trukk w/ RR
Boyz x12 - Nob w/ PK + BP, Trukk w/ RR
Boyz x12 - Nob w/ PK + BP, Trukk w/ RR
Boyz x20 - Shootas, 2x BS, Nob w/ Kombi-Skorcha + BP
FAST ATTACK
4x Deffkoptas - RL
Dakkajet - 3x supa shoota
HEAVY SUPPORT
Battlewagon - RR, 2x BS (for the shoota boys)
Which leaves about 300 points left to decide how to spend, not that this core is set in stone either.
Some options I've considered:
- 4x Warbuggies w/ RLs, for some more rokkits
- Tankbustas. I've yet to use them, but apparently they're a very competitive option in the codex. How would dakka run these?
- Replacing the nobz with 5x meganobz w/ 2x kombi skorchas and the warboss with a megaboss. Less bodies, and slower, but much tougher, and probably a bit cheaper.
- dropping the nobz altogether and getting moar stuff. it's a lot of eggs in one basket, but it's done right by me in most of the games I've played, and I'm not sure what else I would do with my HQs.
- Small unit of bikes (6?) with a nob
- Mek gunz. This is another competitive option I see a lot, but I worry they would just get left behind by the rest of the army.
Also, choice of detachments. I feel like the Horde isn't very good for this type of list with lots of smaller units, especially compared to ObSec, but I could be wrong?
Thanks in advance for your thoughts and suggestions.
This list is butts, yo. #Wyverns4lyfe #OrksareDorks #ButtsButt
Some people happen to LIKE butts. A LOT.
Especially Leman Russ butts. It's where the rokkits go.
OOOOOOOOO! You're in trouble
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2015/05/30 04:24:03
Subject: [1850] - Orks - TAC
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Fresh-Faced New User
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havent had a ton of luck with tank bustas. At the end of the day its just not enough shots for them to be effective IMO.
Let me break that down as they are a solid unit that people love.
They have no save like any other ork because of that when there trukk blows up it will take half of them with it. Considering you payed 7 more points for them then you did a normal boy it hurts. Also because they only have one shot they are going to get 4 hits on average. thats only if they have suffered no loses. Ork shooting is awesome in numbers. But tank bustas do not have the numbers for me.
Deffcoptas while having less shots they are at least twin linked and on a easy to deliver package with a good t and armor save. also war buggies are even cheaper and also a easy way to deliver that good punch to the balls with out flank.
If you are suffering from too much MEG try also Mek gunz of the Kustom mega blasta variety. Those babys will drop terminators wraith knights, tanks what ever and are t7 so they stick around and are not worth people time to shoot with small arms fire. Because grots are shooting them you have a better scatter roll as well and that is nice.
I have also had some minor luck with a blitza bomma. Though this is not a top choice. Its fast and has shooty and explodies with random ork rules. So I dig it but its not the best bang for your buck like the other a fore mentioned things but as a evil sunz player myself It is a fast thing that fits the overall scope of speed freeks.
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2015/05/30 06:30:58
Subject: Re:[1850] - Orks - TAC
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Nurgle Predator Driver with an Infestation
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My two cents...
I would cut back on the shootas and put them in a trukk too. Any boy in a trukk should have one big shoota also. Boarding planks on the trukks too. One squad of boys for hand to hand the rest get shootas. Rokkits on all the trukks. Remembr trukks are fast. They can boost another 12" in the shooting phase if you don't shoot with them. Good for getting objectives.
No dakka jet. Not worth the points. Add some buggies or tracks with rokkits on them. Add one more deff kopta.
Have at least 2 12 man squads of lootas. Keep them in cover. They are good at light vehicles, taking out flyers and infantry.
And a big mek with a SAG. Keep him in back by lootas in cover. Large templates are good for orks since you don't have to roll to hit.
Cut back on the nobs. A 5 man will be good. Add 3 pk's, banner(+ws) and an extra boss pole.
Extra points for a plank and another big shoota on the battle wagon.
Hope this helps.
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