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Saw this while looking through E3 content.




I think this may be the next big think for wargaming. The current issue with using the Hololens for traditional computer gaming is that the games don't work well because of the amount of movement that is needed. If one type of game did work well for the hololens technology, it would be RTS games because you could play them on any table using the Hololens technology. Table top war games are basically RTS games you play in person. I'd assume that multiple people can be in the same room and see the game, so this could be a viable replacement for the beer and pertzel style of play.

Obviously, it does nothing for the modeling side of the hobby.

Barfolomew wrote:

Obviously, it does nothing for the modeling side of the hobby.

And that's why the answer is probably no. There are people who mostly just play, but I'd wager most wargames still partake in the modelling side as much as the gaming side.

Pretty sure the same question was asked when mass computer gaming became a thing. It was no then, its no now.
Such things can co-exist without one or the other taking over or even harming the other.
I've been a wargamer since 1987 and a computer gamer since the ZX spectrum (so around about the same time) and I love both, some of the reasons are the same, some are different.

TL;DR: No.

 ImAGeek wrote:

Barfolomew wrote:

Obviously, it does nothing for the modeling side of the hobby.

And that's why the answer is probably no. There are people who mostly just play, but I'd wager most wargames still partake in the modelling side as much as the gaming side.

I think you hit the nail on the head here. Or at least what I was thinking.

I'm not sure it would replace the modelling side, there is far more visceral satisfaction in seeing a Chaos Space Marine army with tanks and daemonic allies that you've built and painted yourself, than loading up Dawn of War or some such. For a start, your models can still be used during a power cut and you can admire them as they sit on a shelf, you just can't get that same buzz from loading a computer and flipping up .jpgs.

That video is actually pretty 'fake'/exagerated, what you actually see through the glasses is a lot less impressive as you only see a narrow focused section of the image (you got occasional glimpses of it during the presentation) so no it's not the future of wargaming

And even if it does eventually reach that stage it still won't scratch the modelling or painting itch that wargaming does

This came up a few months ago on this forum and I still think the answer is no. With risk of broadly labeling our merry band I would say we are very tactile and ImAGeek said, many participate in the hobby just as much if not more than the gaming side.

 NoPoet wrote:
I'm not sure it would replace the modelling side, there is far more visceral satisfaction in seeing a Chaos Space Marine army with tanks and daemonic allies that you've built and painted yourself, than loading up Dawn of War or some such. For a start, your models can still be used during a power cut and you can admire them as they sit on a shelf, you just can't get that same buzz from loading a computer and flipping up .jpgs.

I agree with this. It just wouldn't be the same. There is something special about seeing an entire army that you have constructed and painted yourself that you wouldn't be able to recreate digitally.

 WargamingWarrior wrote:

 NoPoet wrote:
I'm not sure it would replace the modelling side, there is far more visceral satisfaction in seeing a Chaos Space Marine army with tanks and daemonic allies that you've built and painted yourself, than loading up Dawn of War or some such. For a start, your models can still be used during a power cut and you can admire them as they sit on a shelf, you just can't get that same buzz from loading a computer and flipping up .jpgs.

I agree with this. It just wouldn't be the same. There is something special about seeing an entire army that you have constructed and painted yourself that you wouldn't be able to recreate digitally.

But did you take the blue pill, or the red pill?

I think at the end of the day, there are hobbies that will coexist with digital entertainment, though of course through the years, digital entertainment has taken a lot of mindshare and disposable income.

Still, there will always be people who like to work with wood, metal, resin, plastic, et cetera, and appreciate physical things which the create and are unique, as opposed to digital things which anyone can create identically.

In the same way, awesomely perfect VR won't replace hiking a mountain trail or sitting on the patio and watching hummingbirds drink from flower petals.

I think one telling point is when hex based tabletop gaming (f the sort done by Avalon Hill) began to be emulated on computers it did not kill off the box game market,

instead both dwindled and died together as miniature games took off in a bigger and bigger way

so this (assuming it works out) is not going to kill miniature gaming, although it might well come to complement it as an easy way to start games you don't have armies for (yet), it will probably also pull in a few new people who'd never build/paint minis, but as a wargaming thing alone, probably not