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Hi guys,

after testing my last list a couple of times, I had to change a bit my list due the problems against tanks, so I decided to upgrade it a bit more. I hope this one will be better:

HQ
Renegade command squad:
Heretek archdemagogue with plasma pistol and meltabomb, 5 disciples, plasmagun, autocannon, caparace armour (disciples):150p

Renegade enforcers cadre:
One with plasma pistol, caparace armor, melta bomb: 45p (with the veterans inside the valkyrie)
One with powerfist, caparace armor, combat drugs injector: 70p (with the 20 men squad)

TROOPS
Renegade infantery platoon:
10 men renegade command squad with demagogue, chaos sigil, vox caster, autocannon m.training: 65p
10 men renegade command squad with 2 meltaguns, m.training, krak grenades: 70p
Chimera with m.training, autocannon and heavy bolter: 70p
10 men renegade command squad with 2 meltaguns, m.training, krak grenades: 70p
Chimera with m.training, autocannon and heavy bolter: 70p
20 men renegade infantery squad with 3 grenade launcher, chaos sigil, krak grenades, sub-flak armor, heretek bonus: 110p

10 men renegade infantery veterans squad with 2 meltaguns, caparace armour: 125p (inside valkyrie)

ELITE
5 men renegade disciple squad with plasma gun, autocannon, caparace armour: 80p
Renegade blood slaughterer with impaler: 135p

FAST ATTACK
Valkyrie with m.training, lascannon: 135p

HEAVY SUPPORT
Renegade heavy ordnance battery with 2 earthshaken cannons: 110p

Defiler: 195p

What's your opinion?

Arch Demagogue needs covenant of khorne but it's a decent list I think. Don't forget you can take 6+ feel no pain on your veterans, disciples and platoons.

What's with the Plasma Pistol's? I always find them so underwhelming for the point costs. I guess it gives you're HQ some way to deal with thicker armor, but you'll likely not get more than 2 or 3 shots off in a game with it ever.

They're not prices very well but sometimes we build models without the most competitive gear because they look good. Most people will accept a points tax to make sure their army is what you see if what you get.

I feel you there, plasma pistols do look awesome on a lot of models. I suppose I'm not sure if the OP is going for a super competitive or more fluff based list.

Yeah, I know plasma pistols are really overpriced but I think it can adds some extra firepower to the list. Besides, it looks cool in the models

About the covenant of khorne on the HQ, why you suggest it? If its for the blood slaughterer, just having the heretek is enough. Or its just because of the extra melee damage?

Plus they're only 10 points on an (BS4) enforcer who has two wounds and can take carapace armour which mitigates the gets hot slightly. Also the enforcer can take two of them and sit in a squad with covenant of tzeentch! Gun-slinging those flyers out of the sky, or destroying that dreadnought that dared to charge his squad of mutants!

I have a couple of comments. Overall i like the list but unfortunately you cant unlock the blood slaughterer without the mark of khorne, the heretek upgrade unlocks defilers and decimator only. so you need to find points for that, maybe drop the carapce on the deciples and keep them in cover?

You say you have issues with tanks, so i would suggest using krack grenades to tak them out over melta guns as the renegades aren't the most reliable guys when it comes to shooting. So i would suggest dropping one of the 10 men squads with melta guns and add them to maybe the command squad and just run at the tanks. With a chaos sigil you aren't running away.

This gives you a spare chimera which you could give to you renegade command squad to give it a little more protection.