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So earlier this year GW released upgrade kits for the four usual suspect chapters (UM, DA, SW, and BA). If you were to design an upgrade kit for the other chapters, what would they have in them?

All of the upgrade kits follow a general scheme, which looks like the following:
1. 10 Chapter Shoulder Pauldrons
2. 2-4 Heads (1 bare, 1-3 helmeted)
3. 1-2 Chest pieces or back pieces
4. 3-4 accessories

The total piece count should be around 18 pieces. Include an explanation behind the general theme of your set.

Here is an example with the Imperial Fists

1. 10 Chapter Shoulder Pieces.
2. 1 head with military cut hair and two service studs, 1 Maximis pattern helmet with a IF emblem on the forehead(FW not GW style), 1 Mk VII helmet with a wreath and an IF emblem on the forehead.
3. 1 Chest piece with a fist at the center of the aquila instead of a skull, and a tabard in the front.
4. 1 Power Fist with skulls on the knuckles and a wreath on the back of the hand. 1 Ornate Bolt Pistol. 1 back banner topper in the shape of a fist.

I went with the Maximus helm since the IF have a lot of that particular Mk due to the AM giving them a bunch after they aided in stopping a civil war on Mars. May also have to do with Phall. The chest piece is due to CF having a lot of Sternguard (this would be dual-function for IF and CF). The fist regalia and Power Fist is obvious. I almost would like to add a Storm Shield in there too, but that would make the set way too top heavy. The Bolt Pistol is to represent the Spartean from the Sentinels of Terra book. Overall the set allows you to build Captain Garadon.

What are your set ideas?

I play Carcharodons so it'd have a load of mk V bits and 46 different types of stabbing implement

For Salamanders
Scaled cloaks and tabards
Drake helmets
Variant look MW bolters and other weapons
Drake-/Hammer-based 'Artificer' armor (pads, torsos, legs)

GAdvance wrote:
I play Carcharodons so it'd have a load of mk V bits and 46 different types of stabbing implement

I could see the Space Sharks having lots of sharp points and razor edges on their shoulder pauldrons, a chainsword or Bolter with a chainsword bayonet, and whatnot. Since it is GW, the helmets would probably have shark fins on them.


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 Carlson793 wrote:
For Salamanders
Scaled cloaks and tabards
Drake helmets
Variant look MW bolters and other weapons
Drake-/Hammer-based 'Artificer' armor (pads, torsos, legs)

I could see them having a Thunder Hammer with a Salamander logo as the forward head of the hammer. Perhaps they could have a combi-flamer or meltagun with a drake motif to it.

For chaos marines the god specific ones would have the parts required to turn the basic marines into the cult units

Champion of Slaanesh wrote:
For chaos marines the god specific ones would have the parts required to turn the basic marines into the cult units

Would this be to turn the regular Space Marine kit to a Chaos Space Marine army or turn the regular Chaos Space Marine kit into the different cults?

1. Pauldrons.
2. 2 tonsured heads. 1 bare. 1 hooded.
3. Robed chest piece.
4. Back topper banner with praying hands. Icon with the emperors face. Power Mace with incence burner. Power lance with wreaths. Herbal bag.


Very Monk-ish type of chapter.

Black Templar already have one of the best chapter upgrade kits out there.

But in addition to that.

1. 10 Chapter Shoulder Pauldrons
2. 3 knightly faceplated helmets. One helmetless with his eyes closed in prayer
3. Mk VIII Errant chest pieces. Backpacks with thuribles hanging from them
4. Black Sword, Holy Orb of Antioch, Relic Power Weapons for the honor guard.

 Icculus wrote:
Black Templar already have one of the best chapter upgrade kits out there.

But in addition to that.

1. 10 Chapter Shoulder Pauldrons
2. 3 knightly faceplated helmets. One helmetless with his eyes closed in prayer
3. Mk VIII Errant chest pieces. Backpacks with thuribles hanging from them
4. Black Sword, Holy Orb of Antioch, Relic Power Weapons for the honor guard.

DA had a very comprehensive upgrade set as well, so I wouldn't count BT out for receiving an upgrade sprue. For the most part each of the sets enable you to make a character (SW is Ragnar Blackmane, UM is a Honour Guard Chapter Champion, BA is a Captain, DA is a Company Master), what character would your set aim to make? It seems to aim toward making a custom Emperor's Champion.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Icculus wrote:
Black Templar already have one of the best chapter upgrade kits out there.

But in addition to that.

1. 10 Chapter Shoulder Pauldrons
2. 3 knightly faceplated helmets. One helmetless with his eyes closed in prayer
3. Mk VIII Errant chest pieces. Backpacks with thuribles hanging from them
4. Black Sword, Holy Orb of Antioch, Relic Power Weapons for the honor guard.

DA had a very comprehensive upgrade set as well, so I wouldn't count BT out for receiving an upgrade sprue. For the most part each of the sets enable you to make a character (SW is Ragnar Blackmane, UM is a Honour Guard Chapter Champion, BA is a Captain, DA is a Company Master), what character would your set aim to make? It seems to aim toward making a custom Emperor's Champion.

Well, yes by having a black sword in it, it would give you a custom option for an emperors champion. In the fluff each crusade has an emperors champion, and that champion may change from time to time after they die in battle because they challenged a Greater Daemon to a 1v1 duel. (I think somewhere it said there are only 10 Black Swords) but that should mean that your special crusade should have their own EC. Technically the Emperors Champion is not a named character, it is just a title. Like Captain, or Chapter Master. So this would give you the ability to make your own a little special.

I could definitely see that being a thing. Keep them coming! Some thoughts I had toward other chapters is that maybe the Raven Guard would have a Lightning Claw or a Jump Pack. White Scars would have stuff like a bare head with a top knot and a WS-ified sword, the goal being to allow someone to convert a Space Marine biker into Ko'sarro Khan on a Moondrakken(would also contain some stuff to customize said bike). Iron Hands would have some cybernetic stuff (not really sure they have an iconic weapon).

Salamanders:
Extra melta/flamer.
Dragon bone framed helmet (a la the Kurgan)
Ornate Melee weapons/bolters
Belt pouches with artisan tools such as hammers, tongs, etc.

Tomb Wardens:
Shoulder pads with chapter insignia (eye of Ra with the Ultra symbol in the pupil)
Jackal head
Command crook (to replace Crozius)
Head with Braided bound goatee
Khopesh melee weapon bit
Banner pole with lantern made from Necron head

white scars
10 shoulder pads.
2 smaller insignia to put on backpacks/shoulder pads etc, 2 larger insignia for bikes.
2 power lances, 3 curved swords
3 bare heads with ponytails, 2 helmeted heads with flowing topnots.


salamanders
1 flamer 1 melta and 2 bolters with dragon heads barrels and fancy styling etc etc
1 ornate front and back piece with drake scale cape.
2 drake scale capes.
1 thunderhammer-ornate
combi weapon special weapon parts-ornate
5 shoulder pads with anvils drakes etc on them
1 flamer spout shot piece (like its a flamer in the action of "fire"ing...)

Astral Claws

6 shoulder pads of the claw grasping the star, 4 with a dire wolf stalking under a crescent moon for the Hounds of Huron.

Helmets with extra comms gear and helmet mounted auspexes to communicate with the tyrants legion and call in heavy artillery.

Battered, repaired and patched chest pieces composed of parts from different marks. 2 apothecary backpacks for geneseed scavengers.

Power fist with built in heavy flamer. Demonic familiars, digital weapon upgrades, and a leopard pelt cloak that fits on a PA character.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

GAdvance wrote:
I play Carcharodons so it'd have a load of mk V bits and 46 different types of stabbing implement

I could see the Space Sharks having lots of sharp points and razor edges on their shoulder pauldrons, a chainsword or Bolter with a chainsword bayonet, and whatnot. Since it is GW, the helmets would probably have shark fins on them.

On a serious note though for tac marines i don't want for anything but maybe some chapter icons but i am desperate for custom terminator peices, theres an excess now of power armour peices with FW and 3rd party bits but i'm meant to have modified terminators yet outside of just sticking mkV style bonding studs on everything i have no options

I run a homebrew chapter, but my upgrade sprue would be:

5 Deathwatch pauldrons
5 Terminator honors pauldrons
5 Corvus helms
2 completely plain chest pieces
2 plain loincloths, front and back

I play Sons of Medusa and Raven Guard so I'll do two kits.

10 Shoulder pads. A few of those nice studded ones a few rimmed ones. Chapter specific of course!

All beaks for the RG! Some suitable looking Sons heads, maybe more bare ones with augmetics. Definitely for the Sons a Chaplain head and a Techmarine head.

For the RG probably some nice feathery Aquila chestpieces and for the Sons again a Chaplain and Techmarine torso.

Options? For the RG, sweet jumpacks. Sons, again options to make a Chaplain and Techie.

Obviously the RG would be more a classic jump pack take and the Sons, well... I like to think they balance the whole IH ideology with some humanism and so the Techmarine and Chaplain play a big role in the Chapter.

Blood Ravens:
Could have 10 shoulders (one for each of a tactical squad).
Some arms holding books or torsos with books attached.
Selection of helmets.
A force weapon of some flavour.

I would love to see an Imperial Fists chapter upgrade sprue as I could use it with my Crimson Fists. What I would like to see in such a set would be pretty much what the original poster has put.

The chapters that probably need one the most are the salamanders with reptile skin loincloths and decor, shoulder pads and salamander styled melta and flamer weapons since they are artisans and have an abundance of master crafted melta/flamer weapons.

For the Ravenguard, shoulder pads and also Corvus Helmets covered in their chapter symbol.

Iron hands already have some upgrades, but I would like to see them with some updated ones. Just more bits to make them more machine/cyborg like and really stand out.



Oh and I'm quite biased in this as I collect/play loyalist marines, but I would love to see some upgrade sprues for the Chaos legions. I have been tempted by starting a small CSM army a few times, but what puts me off is the lack of variation in their kits (and rules/codex but that's another matter). I don't want to do say a CSM army that is exactly the same as others, but with a different colour scheme or pay expensive Forgeworld prices. Sure there are Iron Warrior and Night Lord upgrade bits on GW site, but they just look outdated and a bit crap. If GW showed the same amount of love for the Chaos legions with upgrade kits for Alpha Legion, Emperors Children, World Eaters, Wordbearers, DeathGuard etc and updated their stuff for Night Lords, Iron Warriors, Thousand Sons, Khorne Berzerkers and Plague Marines then I would actually consider starting a CSM army. There is just as much variation between the traitor legions as there is with the loyalist ones, yet Chaos just gets shoved into one area compared to the loyalists that have so much variation. Sorry, went off topic a bit there!

So now that we have relics and whatnot for all of the different main Chapters, I have revised a little of what I would expect from the different Upgrade kits. The helmets and Shoulder Pads are a given, but the weapons and whatnot are not.

Imperial Fists - Power Fist, ornate Bolt Pistol (the Spartean), chest pieces with fists on them.
Salamanders - Thunderhammer (Drake Smiter), back piece with a dragon skin cloak, front armor with a dragon skin tabard.
Iron Hands - Power Axe (Axe of Medusa), several arm and leg bionics.
White Scars - Power Lance (Glaive of Vengeance), special helmet with augmented optics (Hunter's Eye), back fur cloaks. Bare head with top knot.
Raven Guard - Ornate Jump Pack (Raven's Fury), matching Lightning Claws (Swiftstrike and Murder).

Templers... We already have a fancy kit with dozens if bits.

That should be the standard, not the small kit

 jhe90 wrote:
Templers... We already have a fancy kit with dozens if bits.

That should be the standard, not the small kit

It should, but I suspect that won't happen anymore. They do need to take the Templar kit and recut it to function with the new kits, though.

Is it okay if we include custom chapters?

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 jhe90 wrote:
Templers... We already have a fancy kit with dozens if bits.

That should be the standard, not the small kit

It should, but I suspect that won't happen anymore. They do need to take the Templar kit and recut it to function with the new kits, though.

A generic kit if bionics would be fun. Augmented arms and legs etc. So so rare to s See good marine bionics.
Mostly legs, arms. Some bare mostly cyborg heads.
Also be a good kit for iron hand players

 TheCustomLime wrote:
Is it okay if we include custom chapters?

Sure. I would prefer official chapters, but post whatever chapters you have ideas for. Same goes for lesser known chapters. Also, Chaos Space Marines upgrades would be great too.

I can't really decide what the Blood Ravens would have. Possibly a unique Psychic Hood back piece and a Force Staff/Axe/Sword. Make it compatible with the clam pack Librarian kit.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 TheCustomLime wrote:
Is it okay if we include custom chapters?

Sure. I would prefer official chapters, but post whatever chapters you have ideas for. Same goes for lesser known chapters. Also, Chaos Space Marines upgrades would be great too.

I can't really decide what the Blood Ravens would have. Possibly a unique Psychic Hood back piece and a Force Staff/Axe/Sword. Make it compatible with the clam pack Librarian kit.

And bits from every other kit lol?

Alrighty then. It's not like my custom chapter would have much in the way in custom equipment.

Minotaurs: 10 shoulder pads with the chapter symbol, a pair of ornate Mk. IV helms, and a pair of ornate complete Mk. IV torsos.

 jhe90 wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 TheCustomLime wrote:
Is it okay if we include custom chapters?

Sure. I would prefer official chapters, but post whatever chapters you have ideas for. Same goes for lesser known chapters. Also, Chaos Space Marines upgrades would be great too.

I can't really decide what the Blood Ravens would have. Possibly a unique Psychic Hood back piece and a Force Staff/Axe/Sword. Make it compatible with the clam pack Librarian kit.

And bits from every other kit lol?

Yes! Most of the stuff would have hints of stuff from other Chapters!

TCL, what weapons would the Minotaurs have in it?

Fleur de lis shoulder pads with inquisition symbols and also plastic sisters...what was the question?

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 jhe90 wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 TheCustomLime wrote:
Is it okay if we include custom chapters?

Sure. I would prefer official chapters, but post whatever chapters you have ideas for. Same goes for lesser known chapters. Also, Chaos Space Marines upgrades would be great too.

I can't really decide what the Blood Ravens would have. Possibly a unique Psychic Hood back piece and a Force Staff/Axe/Sword. Make it compatible with the clam pack Librarian kit.

And bits from every other kit lol?

Yes! Most of the stuff would have hints of stuff from other Chapters!

TCL, what weapons would the Minotaurs have in it?

A dual handed blinged out power axe? I can't really think of iconic weaponry for them.