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Farseer skyrunner: shard, stones


Autarch Skyrunner: lance,mask


7 scatbikes
Warlock.

3 scatbikes
3 scatbikes
3 scatbikes
3 scatbikes
3 scatbikes

Hemlock

Hemlock

Culexus assassin

Aspect host formation
6x swooping hawks /extarch
5x spiders/ extarch
5x spiders/ extarch

1x heavy weapon platform (D-cannon)

1x heavy weapon platform (D-cannon)

Not bad, but for maximum OP ness you should find a way to fit in a Wraithknight or two...

I guess beatable by another Eldar list.

 wuestenfux wrote:
I guess beatable by another Eldar list.

Don't underrate Space Marines or Necrons...they too drink from the well of OP...

The only problem with wraithknights is grav.

And it makes it so I will never take one, or anything not 100% mech.

So no wraithknights is fine.

Hemlocks are ok if you intend on jinking and casting conceal on urself for a 2+ jink and psychic shreiking at everyone with -2LD otherwise just have to be mad to not take 3 crimson hunters for their rerollable jink shinangans.

Not sure what the assassin is all about

308 Slugga Boys

ConanMan wrote:
The only problem with wraithknights is grav.

And it makes it so I will never take one, or anything not 100% mech.

So no wraithknights is fine.

Hemlocks are ok if you intend on jinking and casting conceal on urself for a 2+ jink and psychic shreiking at everyone with -2LD otherwise just have to be mad to not take 3 crimson hunters for their rerollable jink shinangans.

Not sure what the assassin is all about

Hemlocks are there for the D and the warpcharges, and for the -4 if your near both of them to your moral/pinning and fear tests. The assassin is there for army's like eldar or daemons to shut down there powers (daemons get messed up pretty bad by him)


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pinecone77 wrote:

 wuestenfux wrote:
I guess beatable by another Eldar list.

Don't underrate Space Marines or Necrons...they too drink from the well of OP...

SM and Crons are pretty op as well, but nothing I haven't had a problem with


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 Tenzilla wrote:
308 Slugga Boys

Id love to play against that lol id bring a book tho to read while he moves all his dudes lol

You just push them around with a broom

 chaosmarauder wrote:
You just push them around with a broom

Someone will take the time and move them one by one and make sure that there 2" apart. Lol

You just picked a lot of good stuff from the Eldar codex, just like a lot of other Eldar armylists. The can all do well but their also other armies that could give you a hard time:

- 5 flyrants + 3+ mawlocs
- Space marine droppods (skyhammer)
- Centurion deathstar + psykers (gate)
- Daemon Flying MC's
- Grey knights ("first turn in your face formation")

If these armies got first turn then you need to work for your win.

Dont act like your invented the best eldar armylist, its just like many others.

shogun wrote:

You just picked a lot of good stuff from the Eldar codex, just like a lot of other Eldar armylists. The can all do well but their also other armies that could give you a hard time:

- 5 flyrants + 3+ mawlocs
- Space marine droppods (skyhammer)
- Centurion deathstar + psykers (gate)
- Daemon Flying MC's
- Grey knights ("first turn in your face formation")

If these armies got first turn then you need to work for your win.

Dont act like your invented the best eldar armylist, its just like many others.

The only one out of those that would give me a hard time is the 5 flyrants + mawlocs. But I have no problem with skyhammer or and drop army, centstar with gate doesn't scare me at all since my assassin will make sure that unit never gates lol also flying MC I'll just shoot with my hemlocks and make short work of them. I rather my opponent go first cuz then I'll always have the last move, all you have to do is deploy correctly. And I have created the best list, but I'm sure someone in this world has made one two, can't read minds lol but I do no that here in North America I'm the first to build paint and bring this to a GT.

Dman137 wrote:
[ And I have created the best list, but I'm sure someone in this world has made one two, can't read minds lol but I do no that here in North America I'm the first to build paint and bring this to a GT.

Neat! Which well known GT did you win with this?

Dman137 wrote:
Farseer skyrunner: shard, stones


Autarch Skyrunner: lance,mask


7 scatbikes
Warlock.

3 scatbikes
3 scatbikes
3 scatbikes
3 scatbikes
3 scatbikes

Hemlock

Hemlock

Culexus assassin

Aspect host formation
6x swooping hawks /extarch
5x spiders/ extarch
5x spiders/ extarch

1x heavy weapon platform (D-cannon)

1x heavy weapon platform (D-cannon)

Tabled a list sorta like this on t2 with my battle company at iron halo GT. don't think it would handle some of the abusive stuff I also had to beat. War convo and eldar/dark Angels with 2+ reroll cover everywhere among them.

Didn't win do to technicalitys but it's called Astronomicon. And up next is DaboyzGT, would have loved to made it to BAO but from Toronto to there's is a bit far lol next year for sure


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I'm shocked that it got tabled, not saying that you didn't or couldn't do it I'm sure your a good general. But I've played against the hard lists and if you no what your up against then you'll know what to do. Having a good list is one thing, but knowing how to use it is the difference from first to last

I'm working on a chaos list for da boyz that I think would beat this. I've written it to whoop scat bike spam from the ground up.

I guess well see

Saying that you are not worried about Demon Circus is a mistake. Slaanesh DPs are a very hard counter to this list.

They shoot a crap ton as well as Psi shrieking all your bikes and spiders. They mush the hemlocks. Your Culexus (because he isnt in a Stormraven) is incredibly easy for them to mitigate against. Also for eldar armies (they can move 12" away, then cast their powers).

Thinkgs that are suboptimal in your list: 2 farssers always better with jetbikes. And two larger units.

Oh. And conanman - hemlocks dont buff psi shriek. Its only for morale, fear and pinning checks sadly.

The DP will have to get in range of my bikes and not be in range of the assassin, I'll deploy in the corner with the assassin in front of the army, you'll never get in range with pyi shriek. 2 farseers is good, but having the autarch for reserve manipulation is much more advantageous. Tho is I could give both farseers the shard then that's a different story. I'm not saying I can't loose, but I've already gone up against some of the best lists and while the games were though eldar came out on top.


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raoiley wrote:
I'm working on a chaos list for da boyz that I think would beat this. I've written it to whoop scat bike spam from the ground up.

I guess well see

I guess I'll see you there haha that is if they ever release the comp system for this years lol still waiting to see what their going to do, some were saying highlander

Skyhammer makes this list very sad

 ninjafiredragon wrote:
Skyhammer makes this list very sad

I've tabled skyhammer now about 4 times.. So yeah, skyhammer ident so scary when you no how to bubble your units.

Skyhammer is good don't get me wrong, but after first turn its pretty useless and now you have 6" walking marines.

In my experience so far, Skyhammer isn't as nasty to the stereotypical Eldar list as the War Convocation.

At any rate - I thought DaBoyz was a comp system. Have they released this information?

 Cieged wrote:
In my experience so far, Skyhammer isn't as nasty to the stereotypical Eldar list as the War Convocation.

At any rate - I thought DaBoyz was a comp system. Have they released this information?

I'm waiting on a email back from them to find out the comp system for this year, but someone I know said they messaged them and they said they might do highlander

niv-mizzet wrote:

Dman137 wrote:
Farseer skyrunner: shard, stones


Autarch Skyrunner: lance,mask


7 scatbikes
Warlock.

3 scatbikes
3 scatbikes
3 scatbikes
3 scatbikes
3 scatbikes

Hemlock

Hemlock

Culexus assassin

Aspect host formation
6x swooping hawks /extarch
5x spiders/ extarch
5x spiders/ extarch

1x heavy weapon platform (D-cannon)

1x heavy weapon platform (D-cannon)

Tabled a list sorta like this on t2 with my battle company at iron halo GT. don't think it would handle some of the abusive stuff I also had to beat. War convo and eldar/dark Angels with 2+ reroll cover everywhere among them.

That Iron halo list was quite a bit different from this one.... Nice try though

Have you actually played with the culexus without a transport vehicle? I was excited about him initially but after a few test games I found him to perform much worse than His abilities and statline suggested.

So...uh...parameters? I mean what are the possible missions and scoring rules.
It is a killy list to be sure, and mobile, and yeah with a crap ton of Jink it looks like it should be fairly durable too.
Still there are other factors.
over 80% of your posts are in army lists. Clearly the construction of exploit lists, or very powerful lists is an interest.
The thing is lictorshame came about because a guy who was good at the game thought "how can I win with a bunch of crappy units, thus getting under the skin of all the OP list guys."
I think probably I would counter this list with...

Ogryn in BA drop pods with a side of Vespid.

Sheit27 wrote:

niv-mizzet wrote:

Dman137 wrote:
Farseer skyrunner: shard, stones


Autarch Skyrunner: lance,mask


7 scatbikes
Warlock.

3 scatbikes
3 scatbikes
3 scatbikes
3 scatbikes
3 scatbikes

Hemlock

Hemlock

Culexus assassin

Aspect host formation
6x swooping hawks /extarch
5x spiders/ extarch
5x spiders/ extarch

1x heavy weapon platform (D-cannon)

1x heavy weapon platform (D-cannon)

Tabled a list sorta like this on t2 with my battle company at iron halo GT. don't think it would handle some of the abusive stuff I also had to beat. War convo and eldar/dark Angels with 2+ reroll cover everywhere among them.

That Iron halo list was quite a bit different from this one.... Nice try though

I've had this army and been playing with this list pretty much for the last 4 months so yeah nice try. Don't believe me go check my Oder army list posts


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 Redleg wrote:
So...uh...parameters? I mean what are the possible missions and scoring rules.
It is a killy list to be sure, and mobile, and yeah with a crap ton of Jink it looks like it should be fairly durable too.
Still there are other factors.
over 80% of your posts are in army lists. Clearly the construction of exploit lists, or very powerful lists is an interest.
The thing is lictorshame came about because a guy who was good at the game thought "how can I win with a bunch of crappy units, thus getting under the skin of all the OP list guys."
I think probably I would counter this list with...

Ogryn in BA drop pods with a side of Vespid.

Played against lictor shame, lost the first time and then won the second time, it's a hard army to play against but it has its weaknesses, mawlocks are crazy lol I don't really post on the other parts of dakka cuz some of the topics usually are just people running in circles. I do like making competitive army lists and I pretty much play everyday, so it's not just math hammer.


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ninety0ne wrote:
Have you actually played with the culexus without a transport vehicle? I was excited about him initially but after a few test games I found him to perform much worse than His abilities and statline suggested.

Every game I've played with the assassin he's on foot. I no his mobility becomes a weakness but if your initial deployment of him is good then your ok, he honestly just harasses people, and to be honest he's only a part of the army so he can deal with daemon army's.

lets see...
IG-cad
Yarrik, 3 min Ogryn, 2 vet with taurox= 785

BA-baal
2 grailvampires, The Veritas Vitae, scouts, 3 Drop pods= 295

Tau-farsight thing
Commander, Monat X2 with meltas, 2 full vespid with leader, full marker drone= about 820

Well that is 1900, guess we'd need to shave 50 points somewhere. I could loose a taurox I guess.

 Redleg wrote:
lets see...
IG-cad
Yarrik, 3 min Ogryn, 2 vet with taurox= 785

BA-baal
2 grailvampires, The Veritas Vitae, scouts, 3 Drop pods= 295

Tau-farsight thing
Commander, Monat X2 with meltas, 2 full vespid with leader, full marker drone= about 820

Well that is 1900, guess we'd need to shave 50 points somewhere. I could loose a taurox I guess.

Come to DaBoyz GT and maybe you'll play me.

You play way more than I do these days, and I doubt my list would be very effective against any other army, (although it might do ok vs Space Marine Gravcannon spam). I am however very interested in seeing how you do, and what the general experience is like at that GT. I hope to hear about it and wish you success and victory. My point I guess is that at a GT someone is bound to bring some wildcard nonsense you don't expect.

 Redleg wrote:
You play way more than I do these days, and I doubt my list would be very effective against any other army, (although it might do ok vs Space Marine Gravcannon spam). I am however very interested in seeing how you do, and what the general experience is like at that GT. I hope to hear about it and wish you success and victory. My point I guess is that at a GT someone is bound to bring some wildcard nonsense you don't expect.

Thanks man, I'm excited about the event and yeah I'm sure someone is going to bring some crazy list. I'm hoping it's not going to be a eldar and space marine event lol just went to the Astro event and that's pretty much all that was there

Sheit27 wrote:


That Iron halo list was quite a bit different from this one.... Nice try though

Meh, opinions. Yeah there are a lot of differences, but most of them involve reserves. The initial deployment is still mainly a bunch of jetbikes and no wraithknight. I think a typical ending to the game between us would be that he would have two hemlocks left zipping around while I have all the objectives dogpiled on.

But hey, if he thinks it will win in their meta over there, have at it. Take a camera and do some picture/video so we can see what you manage to pull off with it.


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Just went and read da boyz rules out of curiosity. "Pseudo-highlander," no LoW, 2 sources max. The weirdest thing to me is that w/l/d is irrelevant to your ranking. They go by straight up points. O.O

I was gonna say that I predicted 3-2 or 4-1 for your list, but I guess that's kind of unimportant with that last rule in place. It's a decent list inside those restrictions, but I don't see it winning at the very tip-top tables without some variables falling into place for you. (IE good matchups, good luck, opponent makes some mistakes etc.)