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http://blog.royalarmouries.org/2015/agincourt-600-making-the-agincourt-diorama-an-introduction/


As part of the museum’s commemoration of the 600th anniversary of the battle of Agincourt, the Royal Armouries is exhibiting a unique collection at the Tower of London from 23 October until 31 January. For this special exhibition, the museum commissioned a bespoke diorama of the battle with David Marshall, model maker of MMDioramas, along with Alan and Michael Perry of Perry Miniatures.

Here, the model maker and project manager David Marshall introduces himself, the Perry brothers, and how this model took shape over the last two years.

Meet the model makers: David Marshall, MMDioramas



David Marshall (me) and the Agincourt diorama

I’ve been a wargamer from the moment I bought my first packs of Airfix soldiers from the local toy shop over 40 years ago. I still remember what they were, WW1 German infantry and American Civil War artillery! Since then I have bought, painted, played and built anything to do with the wargaming and toy soldier hobby. As a regular show demonstrator, my work was getting increasingly positive responses from people, so one Monday morning in April 2002 – after I had had a particularly successful weekend show – I walked into my boss’s office and handed in my notice.

TmTerrain was born, a business I started initially with my friend Mark, supplying one off quality terrain to the hobby market. As a full time model maker for over a decade I’ve built all sorts of projects for customers all over the world, and I haven’t had a day off due to lack of work in all that time – something that continually amazes me.





When the Agincourt project with the Royal Armouries came along, I decided that I wanted to develop this side to my work through MMDioramas, so I could work on future large military based projects for museums and other similar organisations. Time will tell if it is a success, but one thing I can say though is that any future work will have to go some way to get more high profile!

Perry Miniatures:





The Perry brothers, Alan and Michael, have been making figures professionally for 37 years, as they began freelancing when still at school! They started sculpting professionally at Games Workshop in 1978, making historical wargames figures for Wargames Foundry in their spare time from 1985 (alongside their Games Workshop 9-5 day job). After leaving Wargames Foundry in 2001 they started up their own company Perry Miniatures, making historical figures in over 30 ranges covering periods which range from the first Crusades to World War Two. They aim to make more ranges in both metal and plastic, and they both sculpt figures in the traditional way – by hand rather than digitally.





Recently they were heavily involved in a massive Gallipoli diorama for Lord of the Rings director Peter Jackson, which is now on show at the Pukeahu National War Memorial museum, Wellington.




The Perrys are both keen wargamers themselves and enjoy using their own ranges to game with. Being re-enactors since 1980 (until 2014) they have a full grasp of how various weapons are used/held and armour is worn etc. which is invaluable when designing figures. Michael’s right hand was blown off in an accident when loading cannon in 1996 at a re-enactment of the Battle of Crécy, but learnt to use his left hand in a couple of weeks. The brothers have also illustrated many military books and are keen collectors of militaria.

Introducing the model: the facts and stats



The Agincourt diorama is 4 meters by 2 meters in size, and made up from four 2m x 1m sections. 4,400 28mm figures make up its face, supplied by Perry Miniatures. 4,000 of the figures were painted by only two gentlemen from Nottingham, Painted Minis. The other 400 on the field were painted by Andy Taylor, Dave Andrews, Steve Hall, Simon Chick, The Perrys, the Royal Armouries Thom Richardson and me.

The 100 trees and coppicing were made for the model by Keith from Realistic Modelling Supplies, and the 40 banners were supplied by GMB designs. The model itself took two years to make.

Overview of the project.

In January 2014, the letter arrived informing myself and the Perrys that we had won the contract to work with the Royal Armouries on this project. I had to put my project manager hat straight on as I realised my model making skills won’t be seen for a few months! Now was the time for planning.



The first priority was to get the figures started. We had not got a final number confirmed yet, but there would be 1000’s required to finish the model, so the sooner we got going the more time we would give the painters to get them done. Every figure from the Perrys Agincourt range was approved by Royal Armouries, which was really important to everyone involved as it reflected our commitment to a true authentic representation of the battle. As the Perrys had worked closely with the Wallace Collection’s Tobias Capwell when creating their original Agincourt range of figures, we were confident there shouldn’t be any major issues, but it was still a relief when the approval came through.

At the end of June (2014) we got to see the figures, and received an approved colour pallet (see below) which went straight to Painted Minis for reference. They had committed to painting 500 figures a month so getting this to them on time was vital. Phew!



August saw the first 500 figures back from Painted Minis. This gave me something to play with and it felt like real progress was being made. The battle was starting to take shape. Around the same time a big box full of trees arrived for us to play with.
I love making terrain so I was really looking forward to this part.





We discussed whether the landscape should be 3D printed with the Royal Armouries, however this was soon discounted due to cost and so I could apply a more traditional approach, which meant I could get my modelling hat on at last



The model base being constructed

In January 2015, the landscape was mostly shaped and nearly 3,000 figures painted, so we could start playing soldiers – which involved moving blocks of figures around to decide on the final layout. The overall layout and content had been decided months before, when the figure scale of each 1 figure equaling 5 men was agreed on (see initial sketch at the top). We still had to pin the detail down however; including the personalities, banners, stakes, and we had to check that the whole exciting story of the battle was being told and interpreted properly.





Allan Perry with Thom Richardson of the Royal Armouries and the Queen of Agincourt herself Anne Curry, who is also Trustee of the Royal Armouries.

I think this was the most frustrating, exciting, worrying and ultimately rewarding part of the whole project. It was worth every minute of discussion and it just left us to push on now to completion. Details still needed to be decided on such as field patterns, woodland use, and the style of coppicing in the woods either side. It took two or three goes at it to get the coppicing right, but the attention to detail really paid off.



Furnishing the model involved placing 4,500 figures, 100 trees, 100s of wooden stakes, and over 1,000 arrows stuck into the ground. A mammoth job but with amazing results!


The first figures are fixed to the board. No going back now!



Alan and Michael Perry having an ice cream break from placing figures

June (2015) saw the diorama 95% complete, so it was time for the final meeting with the Royal Armouries before the model went off to have its special case fitted for the exhibition. I expected this to be one of the most nervous days of my life as I collected everyone in a conference room before the big reveal. When the moment came however, I was totally calm. I was confident that we had delivered a spectacular diorama of the battle and just couldn’t wait to share it with them!





The project took about 2 years to complete. During that time many people have seen the diorama as they worked on it, and a few other war gamers and history fans have had the chance of a sneak a peek.





The Perry brothers, Royal Armouries team, and myself placing Henry V on the battlefield.

Just before the model was due to be delivered, I had a visit from my son Ben and his girlfriend Rachel. She has been put through visits to tank museums, and other military and architectural delights since joining our family. I was very pleased to see her and they spent a while having a good look at the diorama. They then went off to lunch with her family where the discussion started about the battle, as her Dad has read a lot about it so could explain what happened during the engagement.

Rachel suddenly realised she understood and could visualise what happened on that day in 1415. The diorama allowed her to connect and understand the battle. I have had lots of people tell me how good the diorama looks and what a great job we’ve done, but it was Rachel’s experience that was the most satisfying for me. It demonstrates how powerfully a diorama can connect with the viewer and make historical moments such as the battle of Agincourt accessible to a wider audience. The perfect result!


The 22nd September saw the team working in the shadow of the Tower of London in the pouring rain, looking at a crane to winch the whole exhibition up into the top floor.

We waited for our turn, which was easily the most nervous part of the whole project, and thankfully when it was the rain stopped and each piece went up beautifully. I suddenly realised I was running high on adrenaline and coffee up to then, so once I saw all of the sections up there I was very relieved!






















The next two days saw us install the diorama in the exhibition space and complete the final hand over, with the project sign off occurring at 2pm on the 23rd September. The Royal Armouries team gave us the all clear.

After two years of work completed successfully, we packed up our tools and drove home! To celebrate when I got home, I watched the Great British Bake Off and then went to bed! Mission accomplished.

To see David and the Perrys stunning work make sure you visit the Royal Armouries Agincourt exhibition at the Tower of London. Please visit this link for further blog posts from David and the Perrys on how the model was made as they are published.

After the exhibition closes at the Tower on the 31 January the model will be making its way to Leeds later in the year, where it will remain in our permanent War Gallery. The museum will be marking the occasion when it arrives with a special Hundred Years War Wargaming event. For details please get in touch with Kirsty Rogers via kirsty.rogers@armouries.org.uk.

Pick up or download the October issue of Wargames Illustrated for more pictures and details of the model!



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You know a Diorama is of epic proportions when you need a crane to lift it.....

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Wow, this is huge. Amazing! I need to see it one day.
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Wow that's an absolutely stunning diorama.

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What a great story!

This helps explain why the Perry Bros have been doing much of 100 Years War plastics in the past couple of years.

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Excellent read!

Thanks for sharing.

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Awesome! Glad this is going to Leeds, I'm much more likely to get to see it there (and I can see the epic Waterloo diorama again at the same time!)

On that note, if you're in the UK and haven't been to the Armouries at Leeds, you're missing out! Free entry and there is so much to see!

 
   
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Ya know, that goes completely against the Armies on Parade rules


I hope they also have a better system for rolling attacks than d6s, because that is a LOT of dice


Anyhow. that is pretty amazing work, and I love the attention to color schemes, historical banners and representing who we're pretty sure was actually at Agincourt. Love it.
   
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I hope they also have a better system for rolling attacks than d6s, because that is a LOT of dice


I heard it was going to be a simple flow chart style system:

Do the model have a Longbow?
Yes: you win
No: you lose

Is the model expecting a fair fight between chivalrous men?
Yes: you lose
No: you win

Is the model French:
Yes: you lose
No: you win


If in doubt, see question 3.

 
   
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That is completely amazing. If I could do something even a tenth as a good as that, I would be happy.

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Wow wish I could see that in person. Good job, 2 years well spent.

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Absolutely incredible work by those guys

Many thanks for sharing it

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Tickets for the Tower of London have got frighteningly expensive, haven't they?

The last time I went was maybe seven years ago and I remember it costing something like £12.

It's a great visit, to be sure, but I am thinking twice and three times if it is worth the money now, considering the Royal Armouries in Leeds is free and the entrance fee to the Tower would pay my train fare.

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http://blog.royalarmouries.org/category/agincourt600/agincourt600-making-the-model/



As part of the museum’s commemoration of the 600th anniversary of the battle of Agincourt, the Royal Armouries is exhibiting a unique collection at the Tower of London from 23 October until 31 January. For this special exhibition, the museum commissioned a bespoke diorama of the battle with David Marshall, model maker of MMDioramas, along with the Perry brothers of Perry Miniatures.

In the last post, model maker David Marshall introduced himself and the Perry’s and gave an overview of the project. Here, Alan and Michael talk through how these figures were made.




EDIT : Wonder how old that that Necron Monolith box is ? Reds8n

When David Marshall approached us initially to ask whether we would be interested in working on the Agincourt diorama with him for the Royal Armouries, we of course considered it an honor to be involved in such an amazing project.

Fortunately, we had already developed an Agincourt range of figures with the help of Tobias Capwell (Head of Arms and Armour, Wallace Collection in London), so we were fairly confident that our figures were historically accurate enough for the job.

The way we make original Perry Miniature figures before they’re cast in metal is fairly standard. The figures we make are generally 28mm from the foot to top of head. We start with a 1mm tinned copper wire armature (or framework); bent in the right places to form the basis for the torso, head and legs in the right pose. This is placed into a cork (see stage 1 below), which is handy to hold and maneuver in your other hand (or bionic arm in Michael’s case).

An ‘Epoxy putty’ is then added to the wire, but only a thin skin in the bulkier areas of the torso and muscles of the legs. This is then left to set, which takes about an hour. Once hardened, more putty is applied to the figure starting with the feet and legs, adding the general body shape and adding detail (stage two below). Starting with the feet and travelling up is the best way, as any overhanging cloth/armour etc. will automatically hang over in layers going up the body. Once the legs have dried, the body and head are treated in the same way (stage 3). Armour is usually added to the body at this stage, the head is left to dry before the hair/hat/ helmet is added (stage 4-5). When this is all dry, holes are drilled in the shoulders for the arms (stage 6).



Wire is inserted and bent into the right pose, and a thin skim of putty is then attached to the arms and shoulders to hold them in place and left to dry (stage 7). The arms are then worked up with more putty as before, whilst also adding the finer details. After the arms have set, the weapons are added with super glue and the figure’s hands are sculpted around the weapon (stage 8). We usually make and cast the weapons in metal before the figures so we have ready supply at this point. After this, the figure is removed from the cork and glued to a base. These putty figures are then sent off to be cast in metal.

As the majority of the figures were already in our range, one of the first jobs was to get the entire Agincourt metal figure range approved by the Royal Armouries before we could start production on the diorama itself.

Unlike our Perry Miniatures range however, these model figures weren’t intended for wargaming but for a static diorama. This meant once they had been approved we had to take off all their bases and replace them with pegs, so they could blend in seamlessly with the terrain on the model. This meant quite a bit of work as we had to go through the entire range, but it was well worth the effort in the end. Once this was done, these figures all went off to be re-moulded and cast in a tin alloy centrifugally i.e. spun-cast (see examples below).






(Above, a short video showing the process of spin-casting metal miniatures in a rubber mould. Casting being done by DP Casting.)

This was the way we were going to produce all the figures for the diorama, in just the same way we make all our metal figures. However, Alan came up with the idea of making a resin block of around 40 French men at arms, all tightly packed and weathering the arrowstorm (as mentioned in accounts), which conveniently reduced both some weight and painting time required.

Along with the lightness of the resin, the middle two ranks of men at arms were just heads and shoulders, which saved a little painting – although metal spears still had to be drilled into the figures’ hands. Single metal figures were then placed along the front and rear ranks of these resin blocks on the diorama in order to blend the mass together, which worked really well.



As the project progressed we also needed to make more bespoke figures specifically for the diorama i.e. falling horsemen, key nobles at the battle, artillery pieces on carts, arrow carts with attendees, running bowmen making way for the nobles to fight, etc. Most of these were metal, although we did use a few plastic parts as our new English Army box had just been released. Making these ‘one off’ figures for the model was great fun and what we think big dioramas are all about. In the end it’s all about the detail, something that the public – especially kids with their keen eyes – will pick up on.


King Henry V miniature from the Agincourt Model









To see the figures for yourself visit the stunning Agincourt diorama in the Royal Armouries Agincourt exhibition at the Tower of London. Please visit this link for further blog posts from David Marshall and the Perrys on how the model was made as they are published.

After the exhibition closes at the Tower on the 31 January, the model will be making its way to Leeds later in the year where it will remain in our permanent War Gallery. The museum will be marking the occasion when it arrives with a special Hundred Years War Wargaming event. For details please get in touch with Kirsty Rogers via kirsty.rogers@armouries.org.uk.

Pick up or download the October issue of Wargames Illustrated for more pictures and details of the model!




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There's a pretty good write-up of this in the Wargames Illustrated (336) http://wargamesillustrated.co.uk/shop/wi336-october-2015/

The designer even spoke to some medieval horticulturist about the type of farm land they would have had back there, and the types of trees that would have been growing nearby. They then commissioned a specialist modelling company to make the trees exactly like that - pretty mental!

I would be interested to find out how much it cost end to end, bet it came to a fair bit.

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crazy cool diorama would love to play on that.

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Remember that the Perrys were sculpting for GW up until relatively recently (the Hobbit range) and for a bloody long time before then.

Sure they've got piles of GW stuff lying around, and those tank/vehicle boxes are very useful size for miniature storage

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http://blog.royalarmouries.org/2015/agincourt-600-painting-the-armies-of-agincourt/

bit of info about the painting.

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Whoops, I laughed at the pic of some idiot having fallen off his horse, then remembered it's not a reenactment, they're miniatures.
Very lifelike.

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A very good write up on how to approach a really large scale painting project.



I particularly like the Lord Camoys figure as he lives a few miles down the road from me (his descendant, I mean) in Stonor, South Oxon. It's amazing that the same families are still rocking around after 600 years, though being Roman Catholic the Camoys had to keep a low profile for a few hundred years during the repression of Catholics.

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That's incredible.

I'm planning on visiting the Royal Armouries in Leeds again soon, I'll hold off until this is sent there because I really want to see this in person!

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https://www.facebook.com/events/1549633862018787/



THE AGINCOURT BATTLEFIELD DIORAMA
IS COMING TO LEEDS

Made by David Marshall, of MM Dioramas, and Perry Miniatures, the centre-piece of the Royal Armouries’ recent Battle of Agincourt exhibition at the Tower of London will find a permanent home at the Royal Armouries Museum in Leeds.

WE NEED YOU
The museum will be hosting a Hundred Years War themed war-gaming weekend to mark the model’s move North.

Can you help us to make it a real occasion by supporting a Hundred Years War themed gaming weekend?

If you are interested in putting on a participation game at the UK’s national museum of arms and armour please get in touch with:

Kirsty Rogers
Communications Officer
kirsty.rogers@armouries.org.uk

Keep checking our website for further updates on the event
www.royalarmouries.org



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http://wargamesillustrated.net/see-you-at-rage-the-royal-armouries-gaming-event/


Remember the excellent Agincourt Wargames Diorama, constructed by TM Terrain and populated with loads of Perry Miniatures, featured in WI338 ? Well it’s on the move – from The Tower of London to the Royal Armouries in Leeds – and to mark its inauguration in Leeds the Armouries are hosting a Wargaming weekend.

The Perrys and David Marshell of TM Terrain will be presenting a talk on the model and the figures, and there will be several Hundred Years War themed demo and participation wargames being played, along with ‘graft activities’ like figure painting.

Wargames Illustrated and the Perry twins (when they’re not ‘talking’) will be demoing a Lion Rampant game, set during the Agincourt campaign, which features in WI344.

Come on down (or up, or across), see this beautiful diorama for yourself and spend the rest of the day, gaming, watching live combat demonstrations and visiting one the best museums of arms and armour in the world.

Starts: 10am Saturday 23 April
Finishes: 5pm Sunday 24 April
Please Note: WI, the Perrys and David Marshall will only be there on the Saturday.

For more information visit – The Royal Armouries Website

P.S. There are still spaces available for more HYW themed games. If you are interested contact – Kirsty.rogers@armouries.org.uk




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