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So I'm coming back to the game... even coming back to the faction I started playing with back in Mark I... good ol' Khador...

My reintroduction to the game will be a Journeyman league in a couple weeks.

I'm kind of curious about the lists for the different weeks:

Week 1 - Pretty much understand this one... just Battlegroup... (or alternate suggested battlegroup)
Week 2 - Pretty much got this too... Battlegroup + whatever other units to make a 15pt list
Week 3 - Here's where the questions start... So its Battlegroup + whatever other units to make a 25pt list... but does it have to build off of what I had at week 2? Like if week 2 I had Widowmakers... do I need to include them in Week 3 as well? Or can I take them out and make a new list so long as it has the battlegroup?
Week 4 - Kind of the same question as Week 4 - So its Battlegroup + whatever other units to make 25pt list... and a caster swap is allowed... but does this mean only the caster is swapped... do I have to keep the list the same as week 3 otherwise?
Week 5 - Same question regarding reusing units - reuse all or just at least battlegroup only?
Week 6 - So this I assume all is out the window... I don't need to stick to the battlegroup... but how about the caster? Am I stuck to only the 2 I used during this league? Or does no restrictions mean I can pick a caster other than what I have played?

I'm currently working on lists right now... I'll try to post them later to see if you folks think they'll fly with the league.

For weeks 2-5 the only thing you have to bring is the battlebox. No you don't have to bring the extra models beyond the battlebox that you used in week 2 for week 3. Week 6 with no restrictions means you just play a normal 35pt game. You can bring any caster from the faction you are playing.

Cool cool cool

Good to know.

I'm real excited to get back into the swing of things and a Journeyman league sounds like the way to do it... was just kind of wary about the lists.

My flgs had a journeyman league a few months ago with a great turn out. It's a great way to learn a faction or relearn in your case.

Journeyman leagues are really good fun.


Just remwmber, all battleboxes are equal, but some are more equal than others.

 welshhoppo wrote:
Journeyman leagues are really good fun.


Just remwmber, all battleboxes are equal, but some are more equal than others.

Depends on if you are using the variant Battle Box "lists" that are in the Journeyman rules.

But I agree! In the early weeks, some lists are all put guaranteed wins and some are guaranteed losses. I've organized and ran several Journeyman Leagues, and a couple things I always did:

1). No custom lists. This was my #1 hard rule. If I opened it up to custom lists, the Vets would come to the League Night with OP lists and just stomp all over the inexperienced guys to the point where the League would die by about week 3.

2). No Gorten Grundback- UNLESS the player never uses the Scenario No Man's Land (he is a guaranteed win in the first half of the League, and has a high chance of winning after that)

3). If there is a Troll player, I encourage them to use one of the alternative lists and NOT Madrak/Axer/Impaler.

4). I encourage Cryx players to use an Alternative list, and not use Deneghra. This is especially true if the Cryx player is a veteran Cryx player.

5). At week 2, I allow players to "swap" to a new list and use that as their "primary" list for the rest of the League.

I like to chat with each player to see what they ultimately want out of the list they choose, and try to "steer them" to a more appropriate list if they say something like "I love the Trolls and want to play a gunline list with Madrak!" I'd point out the Grim Angus list might be more like what they want to play.

I also like to add Champion, Best Hobby/Painting, and Best General to the League, with no player able to "sweep" all the categories. I give hobby points for terrain donated for the League/store, and playing a game is worth 1 point. Champion is the player with the most points. Best Hobby/Painting is the player with the most bobby/painting points. Best General is the player with the best win/loss record. I also post "bounties" each week- things that are difficult to accomplish but add flavor to a game. Things like "slam an enemy Warcaster/Warlock into a large based model or terrain piece", or "perform a headbutt power attack".

Journeyman Leagues are a lot of fun as long as everyone participating realize that its for newer players to learn the game, or veteran players to try out a new faction. The League is not for the player that has been playing Khador for the last 5 years and plays Khador in the League.