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Hi everyone.

I'm off to a tournament in January with two friends in a bid to have a good time and motivate actually getting an army finished. The format is 1650 objective based. I really like the idea of the Gladius full company but want to include some damage output along with all the inevitably soon to be dead bodies.

Demi-Company 1. 863points

Chapter Master
Bike, Shield Eternal, Thunderhammer

Command Squad on bikes
Apothecary
2 veterans w/grav guns
2 veterans

Bike squad
2x grav 1x combi grav

3x 5man Tactical Squads
3x Heavy Bolter Razorback

Devastators
4 x lascannon
Heavy Bolter Razorback

Demi-Company 2. 618 points

Chaplain
Bike, Melta Bombs

Bike Squad
2 x grav 1 x combi grav

3x 5man Tactical Squads
3x Heavy Bolter Razorback

Devastators
4 x Missile Launchers w/flakk
Lascannon Razorback

Auxiliary 10th Company 165 points
3 x 5 man scout squads with bolters.

1646 points in total.

Lots of objective secured units but they are all very fragile. I've not taken any specials on the tacticals partly to save points but also because I don't expect them to be any good at damage output even with them. I'm almost guaranteed to lose first blood in every game. Really the bikes are the only source of damage output.

All thoughts and suggestions welcome.

As you say yourself, very little damage output really. Has it been established that you are allowed to take a chapter master instead of the captain? Eitherway, Im honestly not sure the points couldnt be spent better elsewhere.

I dont see the point in having all lascannons and missiles on the devs. Why not spread it around a little so you have more human sheilds for the las cannons (would skip the hyper expensive flakk missiles)?

I think that the suppression force is better than the scouts and its just 10pts more.


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Demi #1 843
Captain (Bike, PF, Auspex) = 140
Command Squad (2xShileds, 4xGrav, Apot) = 220
Tacticals:
5x(Flamer) = 75
Razorback (Assault Cannon) = 20
5x(Flamer) = 75
Razorback (Assault Cannon) = 20
5x(Melta, Combi-M) = 90
Razorback = 0
Assault
3xBikes(2xGrav) = 93
Heavy:
Devastators (Lascannon) = 90
Razorback(LasPlas) = 20

Demi#2 603
Chaplin (Bike,Meltabomb) = 115
Tacticals:
5x(Melta, Combi-M) = 90
Razorback = 0
5x(Melta, Combi-M) = 90
Razorback = 0
5xTacticals (Lascannon) = 90
Razorback (LasPlas) = 20
Assault:
3xBikes(2xGrav) = 93
Heavy:
Devastators (2xLascannon) = 110
Razorback(LasPlas) = 20
Aux:
Supression Force
2xWhilrwinds = 130
Speeder (HB) = 45

If you have lost of fliers then just take the Anti Air Defence Force by dropping 40 pts of upgrades.

Thanks for the input it gave me a lot to think about. I agree on the suppression force and have been able to squeeze in the full 3 whirlwinds in order to take advantage of it fully. It also gives me 4 more armour values helping target saturation. I can take a Chapter Master and fully intend too. A captain is just not enough.

I have zero faith in the ability of special weapons in 5 man squads. You expect them to do something but they just die. Better to focus killing power where it works. If they kill my heavier hitters I'm holding objectives. How much do you want to allocate to wiping out 70 point squads everywhere?

Dropping all heavy weapons from the devs, feels very weird, allows me to upgrade to the 3rd Whirlwind, upgrade 4 razorback turrets and add in 2 more gravs to the command squad.

Still struggling with the last few points. Is there anything I'm missing, any glaring holes I need to try and cover?

1636 current total

Demi company 1 903 points

Chapter Master
Bike, Shield Eternal, Thunderhammer, Artificer armour.

Command Squad on bikes
Apothecary
4 veterans w/grav guns

Bike squad
2x grav

3x 5man Tactical Squads
3x Assault Cannon Razorback

Devastators
no upgrades
Assault Cannon Razorback

Demi-Company 2. 483 points

Chaplain
Bike,

Bike Squad
2 x grav

3x 5man Tactical Squads
3x Heavy Bolter Razorback

Devastators
Heavy Bolter Razorback

Suppression Force 250 points
3 whirlwinds
Landspeeder
Multi melta

Don't forgot the command squad on bikes can still take a Razorback, rhino, drop pod.

Pyreguard wrote:
Don't forgot the command squad on bikes can still take a Razorback, rhino, drop pod.

That's a very good point thank you. In that case add another heavy bolter razorback bringing it to 21 Objective Secured units.

Can chaplains take an auspex? Not a bad complement for the command squad trying to shred things with grav.

On the other hand, if you wanted to up your grav count you could drop the multi-melta on the speeder and have 20 points for a combi on each bike squad.

The list looks tight so everything else is tiny little tweaks and personal preferences I find.