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2016/04/09 20:15:41
Subject: Considering Team Yankee
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Yvan eht nioj
In my Austin Ambassador Y Reg
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As per the title, I like the look of the Team Yankee thing and I enjoy the 'what if' premise of cold war gone hot but what is the buy-in like? Obviously, I need some 15mm terrain but what will two reasonably sized forces run me? And the rulebook/templates/tokens etc? Or is this more aimed at people who already have a 15mm scale battlefield ready to go? I have literally nothing in that scale.
And, more to the point, is the game any good? Or should I stick with 28mm and a Force on Force expansion to cover WW3?
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2016/04/09 21:51:18
Subject: Considering Team Yankee
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I'm in the process of building some considerable armies for Team Yankee simply because I love the time period and the book from when I was a kid. The rules are nice, play is fast and fun, but it is quite an expensive buy-in in addition to the rulebook being a separate cost. A basic 100 pt list for the USA can get you up and running with Bannon's Boys, a second box of M1's, a second of Cobra's, a box of M113's and a mech platoon. Would run about $225 or so. Due to point costs, a similar Soviet force will run you about $350. Most of the new plastics are excellent and go together quickly and cleanly, especially the BMP's. The support units on the other hand are an exceptionally mixed bag. Some are carryovers with tired metal fittings (like the M-109) and the new Warthog and Frogfoot, for example, have very poor spin-cast resin fittings, which any ticket to BF support has a 6-8 week backlog (at least in the USA). Given the price point on most the support units, they are not good value.
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2016/04/09 22:09:25
Subject: Considering Team Yankee
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Lieutenant General
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The Team Yankee book is only $25. Hardly what I would call expensive in comparison to the books you need to play 40K.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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2016/04/09 22:12:23
Subject: Considering Team Yankee
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Yvan eht nioj
In my Austin Ambassador Y Reg
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Hum, quite an investment though to get two moderately sized forces on the table plus the terrain too.
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2016/04/09 22:19:30
Subject: Re:Considering Team Yankee
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Lieutenant General
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I'd suggest you look around the Team Yankee site (especially the Team Yankee Boot Camp). Smaller forces are playable than what Triple9 is putting forth.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/04/09 22:20:55
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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2016/04/10 01:30:18
Subject: Considering Team Yankee
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To Ghazs' point, you can put together 50pt starter armies for under $100 each to get a feel for the game. It really is a great game and terrain can really be just some trees and fields to mimic the Fulda Gap to start. What really drives the cost up is infantry; especially for the Soviets. A full strength Soviet Motor Rifle Company will set you back about $125 discounted price for 24 pts between the BMP's and soldiers. If you want to stack tanks against each other, then it's actually not that expensive a buy-in.
Looking back, my post comes off much more negative than I meant it to be. I do have issues with some of the support units, but that doesn't change the quality of the game or how good the plastic units are. As I said, I'm in the middle of building some decent sized armies and just received the Afgansty briefing, so I'm trying to justify buying and building another 8 Hinds to augment the 4 I have; probably end up proxying 1:144 Zvezda Hinds as I'm not even sure how you'd fit that many on the board or assemble another 8 sets of rotors without putting a bullet in my head.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/04/10 01:32:21
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2016/04/10 03:24:49
Subject: Re:Considering Team Yankee
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Major
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Zvezda also does scale models that might save you a buck.
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2016/04/10 05:38:06
Subject: Re:Considering Team Yankee
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Executing Exarch
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The Zvezda M1 Abrams is essentially the same price as the Battlefront model, and isn't as detailed. I haven't checked any of the other Zvezda models, but if they're like the Abrams then it'd be better to stick with Battlefront.
The US starter includes 5 Abrams tanks (launch day boxes had 6), and 2 Cobras. That's 47 points worth of models. It's not a bad starting point if you want to get a feel for the rules, though an Abrams company with only 5 tanks is *extremely* fragile due to the morale rules.
The rules could use a bit of tightening, but are otherwise good. Games tend to go much faster than they do in Flames of War. This game also plays well on a bigger table, provided that you have the space.
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2016/04/10 13:20:26
Subject: Re:Considering Team Yankee
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Been Around the Block
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We had been playing regular FoW for almost a decade now and started out playing Team Yankee with Battlefronts 15 mm miniatures, but switched over to 6 mm GHQ and stuck with it. For one there already is a pretty big range of Cold War era miniatures out there, it's less costly for a "secondary" game system, it doesn't have the supply problems that TY has and last but not least, at least to me, it looks more immersive at a smaller scale. It doesn't get that "parking lot" feel.
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2016/04/10 16:48:12
Subject: Re:Considering Team Yankee
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Major
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your right their are a few companies out their that do Cold war 15mm models.
we been wanting to start a cold war game but are not wanting to use the Team YAnkee rules,My players are wanting me to design something of a Bolt action, FLAmes of war hybrid rule set.
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2016/04/11 02:04:38
Subject: Considering Team Yankee
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I will second 6mm, as it still works without needed to change ranges and is allot cheaper.
Also ground scale will look nicer.
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2016/04/12 15:35:39
Subject: Re:Considering Team Yankee
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Battlefield Tourist
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Or you could go with Cold War Commander, GHQ Modern Micro-armor, or Modern Spearhead for 6MM Cold War Gone Hot action.
I have to admit, the Team Yankee packaging is very tempting.
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2016/04/15 00:03:40
Subject: Considering Team Yankee
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Regular Dakkanaut
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We played it in 10mm, worked great. Not sure whose models we used though.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/04/15 00:05:45
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