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And I just rewrote my WE to be infantry oriented too

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Chairman Aeon wrote:
C) Because they want to see if they can ditch Warhammer in favour of the AoS ruleset. If 30K is a success then they will have converted most of the other armies over to the new system only leaving the more "modern" Marine (and a couple of other) armies to be ported. If 30K peters out then they never did any damage to the core 40K brand or even Forge World's 30K rules.

I think GW studio does not have an escape plan if 30K "peters out".


 
   
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 Breotan wrote:
Chairman Aeon wrote:
C) Because they want to see if they can ditch Warhammer in favour of the AoS ruleset. If 30K is a success then they will have converted most of the other armies over to the new system only leaving the more "modern" Marine (and a couple of other) armies to be ported. If 30K peters out then they never did any damage to the core 40K brand or even Forge World's 30K rules.

I think GW studio does not have an escape plan if 30K "peters out".



20K? The age of the emperor?

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 Breotan wrote:

I think GW studio does not have an escape plan if 30K "peters out".


Their escape plane is limited release.

Iain.
   
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 Jehan-reznor wrote:
 Breotan wrote:
Chairman Aeon wrote:
C) Because they want to see if they can ditch Warhammer in favour of the AoS ruleset. If 30K is a success then they will have converted most of the other armies over to the new system only leaving the more "modern" Marine (and a couple of other) armies to be ported. If 30K peters out then they never did any damage to the core 40K brand or even Forge World's 30K rules.

I think GW studio does not have an escape plan if 30K "peters out".



20K? The age of the emperor?


30k is the age of the emperor...

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 Kirasu wrote:
 Jehan-reznor wrote:
 Breotan wrote:
Chairman Aeon wrote:
C) Because they want to see if they can ditch Warhammer in favour of the AoS ruleset. If 30K is a success then they will have converted most of the other armies over to the new system only leaving the more "modern" Marine (and a couple of other) armies to be ported. If 30K peters out then they never did any damage to the core 40K brand or even Forge World's 30K rules.

I think GW studio does not have an escape plan if 30K "peters out".



20K? The age of the emperor?


30k is the age of the emperor...

29K, post apocalyptic earth with marauders straight out of a mix of mad max and chaos cultists vs. power armored thunder warriors.
   
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Just play the new Fallout 4.

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 Kirasu wrote:
Just play the new Fallout 4.


Fallout 4 is not same universe

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 Commissar-Danno wrote:
 Kirasu wrote:
 Jehan-reznor wrote:
 Breotan wrote:
Chairman Aeon wrote:
C) Because they want to see if they can ditch Warhammer in favour of the AoS ruleset. If 30K is a success then they will have converted most of the other armies over to the new system only leaving the more "modern" Marine (and a couple of other) armies to be ported. If 30K peters out then they never did any damage to the core 40K brand or even Forge World's 30K rules.

I think GW studio does not have an escape plan if 30K "peters out".



20K? The age of the emperor?


30k is the age of the emperor...

29K, post apocalyptic earth with marauders straight out of a mix of mad max and chaos cultists vs. power armored thunder warriors.


I would buy the ever loving gak of that.

Unification wars boxset anyone?

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@MrFlutterPie - That's not currently a service we offer, but you can purchase quality miniatures from us..

 
   
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Yepp, would ruin myself on that gak indeed. Thuuuuuunderwaaaaarrioooooors!

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Yep, would be all over that, just thinking of the terrain potential and modeling combos is exciting, Saying that, me and my fellow old men of 40k have all vowed that when this hits we are going to build a legion or two each so I'm assuming this will drag a lot of old fans back in.
   
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I have been looking at doing 30K Space Wolves, so much so that I sold all the 40k toys to make room (all of my guys have FW bolters anyway).

This kit would make kit bashing the SW kit and HH kits much easier


 
   
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 Kirasu wrote:
 Jehan-reznor wrote:
 Breotan wrote:
Chairman Aeon wrote:
C) Because they want to see if they can ditch Warhammer in favour of the AoS ruleset. If 30K is a success then they will have converted most of the other armies over to the new system only leaving the more "modern" Marine (and a couple of other) armies to be ported. If 30K peters out then they never did any damage to the core 40K brand or even Forge World's 30K rules.

I think GW studio does not have an escape plan if 30K "peters out".



20K? The age of the emperor?


30k is the age of the emperor...


I actually have a feeling 50k will be Age of Emprah... with no points to boot!
   
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Chairman Aeon wrote:
 Breotan wrote:

I think GW studio does not have an escape plan if 30K "peters out".


Their escape plane is limited release.

Iain.


Yep. They will make a limited edition clam pack, a run of only 500 minis before the molds are destroyed in a public ceremony. They will cost $1,000 each.

Only the Emperor can save GW.




And then the recasters will save us all.

   
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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Chairman Aeon wrote:
 Breotan wrote:

I think GW studio does not have an escape plan if 30K "peters out".


Their escape plane is limited release.

Iain.


Yep. They will make a limited edition clam pack, a run of only 500 minis before the molds are destroyed in a public ceremony. They will cost $1,000 each.

Only the Emperor can save GW.




And then the recasters will save us all.


You're confusing that with Forgeworld's plan for the Emperor mini. By that point, the decorative bases will be larger than the recently released warlord titan.

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I could see them giving each of Horus Transfigured and the Emperor half of his command deck for a scenic duel like Ferrus/Fulgrim taken to an absurd level.

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Well I said I thought HH would come before the end of the year a month ago and I was laughed off the forum. But here goes;

More stuff to come next year. Jetbikes some sort of Mk3 stuff. MkIII looks abit different to FW, chestplate is more angular, and the gauntlets are more squarish. More blocky and tanky than the roundish FW look. Should fit in just fine though.

More Mechanicum stuff too.
   
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 WhispererofTruth wrote:
Well I said I thought HH would come before the end of the year a month ago and I was laughed off the forum. But here goes;

More stuff to come next year. Jetbikes some sort of Mk3 stuff. MkIII looks abit different to FW, chestplate is more angular, and the gauntlets are more squarish. More blocky and tanky than the roundish FW look. Should fit in just fine though.

More Mechanicum stuff too.


Whisps, you rock. In our collective defence, it sounded too good to be true.

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"Good" here being surrounded by so many asterisks and exceptions it needs 500 pages if printed out and a whole lawfirm to keep in order.













I have a little hobby-thread going in the P&M section. Some say it's the best blog on Dakka, some don't agree, most belive it would be better if I finished at least one project some time this century and not just kept starting new ones.
Check it out, you just might like it.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/385168.page 
   
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 STC_LogisEngine wrote:

"Good" here being surrounded by so many asterisks and exceptions it needs 500 pages if printed out and a whole lawfirm to keep in order.

What's so bad about this?

   
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We'll find out soon enough eh.

 thenoobbomb wrote:
 STC_LogisEngine wrote:

"Good" here being surrounded by so many asterisks and exceptions it needs 500 pages if printed out and a whole lawfirm to keep in order.

What's so bad about this?


The possibility FW will discontinue any "basic" Heresy armour mark kits that GW do in plastic, thus humping people who would prefer the look/material/poses of FW's kits and aren't finished collecting their armies yet.
The possibility GW will produce Age of Sigmar-style kiddie-menu rules for their Heresy game.
The possibility GW will produce Age of Sigmar-style kiddie-menu rules for their Heresy game, and make FW stop producing their good rules so the GW gakshow doesn't have to compete with them.
The possibility that GW producing plastic Heresy and shifting FW product over to the main website signals their intent to "clamp down" on FW and eliminate all the positive behaviours vets like them for, such as sharing info & teasers about upcoming product well in advance.
The possibility GW producing plastic Heresy models will free up FW to work on other things, then those other things turn out to be Age of Sigmar and yet more SM shoulderpads(yes, I know, since some folk around here apparently need it spelled out; I am taking the piss with this last one).

How likely any of the issues people are worried about actually are we don't know, probably mildly unlikely, hell we might even see FW return to its glory days and produce all sorts of niche wonderment like returned Specialist Games or more frequent and more varied Imperial Armour books, but it's indicative of GW's abysmal community management and outreach that a significant group of potential customers look at what should be a universally positive product tease and get a sick feeling of dread.

I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
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 Yodhrin wrote:
 thenoobbomb wrote:
 STC_LogisEngine wrote:

"Good" here being surrounded by so many asterisks and exceptions it needs 500 pages if printed out and a whole lawfirm to keep in order.

What's so bad about this?


The possibility FW will discontinue any "basic" Heresy armour mark kits that GW do in plastic, thus humping people who would prefer the look/material/poses of FW's kits and aren't finished collecting their armies yet.
The possibility GW will produce Age of Sigmar-style kiddie-menu rules for their Heresy game.
The possibility GW will produce Age of Sigmar-style kiddie-menu rules for their Heresy game, and make FW stop producing their good rules so the GW gakshow doesn't have to compete with them.
The possibility that GW producing plastic Heresy and shifting FW product over to the main website signals their intent to "clamp down" on FW and eliminate all the positive behaviours vets like them for, such as sharing info & teasers about upcoming product well in advance.
The possibility GW producing plastic Heresy models will free up FW to work on other things, then those other things turn out to be Age of Sigmar and yet more SM shoulderpads(yes, I know, since some folk around here apparently need it spelled out; I am taking the piss with this last one).

How likely any of the issues people are worried about actually are we don't know, probably mildly unlikely, hell we might even see FW return to its glory days and produce all sorts of niche wonderment like returned Specialist Games or more frequent and more varied Imperial Armour books, but it's indicative of GW's abysmal community management and outreach that a significant group of potential customers look at what should be a universally positive product tease and get a sick feeling of dread.


Jesus....

You really cannot let it go can you, [MOD EDIT - PLEASE find another way to express yourself - Alpharius]
Fed up of reading your whines thinly disguised with crap humour, this is news and rumours, post this rubbish elsewhere pls

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 Eldarain wrote:
I could see them giving each of Horus Transfigured and the Emperor half of his command deck for a scenic duel like Ferrus/Fulgrim taken to an absurd level.


Feth it. I want to see the Emperor come with a scale replica of the whole Vengeful Spirit as his base.
   
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blingman wrote:

Jesus....

You really cannot let it go can you, [MOD EDIT - PLEASE find another way to express yourself - Alpharius]
Fed up of reading your whines thinly disguised with crap humour, this is news and rumours, post this rubbish elsewhere pls


Maybe people are fed up reading your whining about whining?

Discussions happen, and this particular tangent is relevant and important to some people. The FW HH line is generally positively regarded, and GW main has a bad track record of having a good idea (plastic HH marines) but fething it up on execution (Sigmafy the rules, cannibalize FW's creativity are both possibilities that wouldn't be desirable).

So somebody asked a question, and they got an answer. If you don't like that answer, feel free to refute it, or ignore it and talk about other rumours or why you're excited.

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 Yodhrin wrote:
 thenoobbomb wrote:
 STC_LogisEngine wrote:

"Good" here being surrounded by so many asterisks and exceptions it needs 500 pages if printed out and a whole lawfirm to keep in order.

What's so bad about this?


The possibility FW will discontinue any "basic" Heresy armour mark kits that GW do in plastic, thus humping people who would prefer the look/material/poses of FW's kits and aren't finished collecting their armies yet.
The possibility GW will produce Age of Sigmar-style kiddie-menu rules for their Heresy game.
The possibility GW will produce Age of Sigmar-style kiddie-menu rules for their Heresy game, and make FW stop producing their good rules so the GW gakshow doesn't have to compete with them.
The possibility that GW producing plastic Heresy and shifting FW product over to the main website signals their intent to "clamp down" on FW and eliminate all the positive behaviours vets like them for, such as sharing info & teasers about upcoming product well in advance.
The possibility GW producing plastic Heresy models will free up FW to work on other things, then those other things turn out to be Age of Sigmar and yet more SM shoulderpads(yes, I know, since some folk around here apparently need it spelled out; I am taking the piss with this last one).

How likely any of the issues people are worried about actually are we don't know, probably mildly unlikely, hell we might even see FW return to its glory days and produce all sorts of niche wonderment like returned Specialist Games or more frequent and more varied Imperial Armour books, but it's indicative of GW's abysmal community management and outreach that a significant group of potential customers look at what should be a universally positive product tease and get a sick feeling of dread.

So at least half of the things that are bad about this are that the stuff is getting cheaper?

   
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 thenoobbomb wrote:
 Yodhrin wrote:
 thenoobbomb wrote:
 STC_LogisEngine wrote:

"Good" here being surrounded by so many asterisks and exceptions it needs 500 pages if printed out and a whole lawfirm to keep in order.

What's so bad about this?


The possibility FW will discontinue any "basic" Heresy armour mark kits that GW do in plastic, thus humping people who would prefer the look/material/poses of FW's kits and aren't finished collecting their armies yet.
The possibility GW will produce Age of Sigmar-style kiddie-menu rules for their Heresy game.
The possibility GW will produce Age of Sigmar-style kiddie-menu rules for their Heresy game, and make FW stop producing their good rules so the GW gakshow doesn't have to compete with them.
The possibility that GW producing plastic Heresy and shifting FW product over to the main website signals their intent to "clamp down" on FW and eliminate all the positive behaviours vets like them for, such as sharing info & teasers about upcoming product well in advance.
The possibility GW producing plastic Heresy models will free up FW to work on other things, then those other things turn out to be Age of Sigmar and yet more SM shoulderpads(yes, I know, since some folk around here apparently need it spelled out; I am taking the piss with this last one).

How likely any of the issues people are worried about actually are we don't know, probably mildly unlikely, hell we might even see FW return to its glory days and produce all sorts of niche wonderment like returned Specialist Games or more frequent and more varied Imperial Armour books, but it's indicative of GW's abysmal community management and outreach that a significant group of potential customers look at what should be a universally positive product tease and get a sick feeling of dread.

So at least half of the things that are bad about this are that the stuff is getting cheaper?


We don't know how much cheaper it's going to be, and we don't know how much of a quality drop there'll be, particularly if GW take over things like characters and legion specific units, and particularly the books. I don't care if the books from GW would be £30 instead of £70, the quality of FW books vs GW books is night and day, and I sincerely hope GW doesn't touch that side of things. GW making things like Tac marines in plastic is good news. If they take over any more than that, it can very quickly become awful news.
   
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Seeing as their have been a whopping two models shown for this release and their is close to a 100+ different Models and kits in the FW HH line I'm gonna guess that GW will stick with the absolute basics (infantry and HQ) and leave all the "difficult" stuff to FW.

Also FW HH books make geedubs money. Lots of money if their top ten sales emails are to be believed. They're stupid but not suicidal.
   
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 Bronzefists42 wrote:


Also FW HH books make geedubs money. Lots of money if their top ten sales emails are to be believed. They're stupid but not suicidal.


I present exhibit A: The Hobbit line...
   
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I always thought that plastic HH would be GW's 'break glass in case of imminent financial collapse' strategy to keep the good ship Nottingham afloat. Honestly surprised to see it.

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