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Hi I'm coming back to 40k after more than a year, and have yet to try the current Eldar codex (had to put hobby on hold a few days after I bought the codex). The list below is really ported from one of my favorite lists from the previous codex, which was a really successful army. What's new compared to my old lists are: Hemlock, Dark Reapers, scatter jetbikes (obviously). Feedback welcome.

Eldar Craftworld
CAD
HQ:
Farseer - jetbike, singing spear
TROOPS:
5 jetbikes - 3 scatter lasers
5 jetbikes - 3 scatter lasers
4 jetbikes - 2 shuriken cannon
4 jetbikes - 2 shuriken cannon
FAST ATTACK:
6 Swooping Hawks, w Exarch
Hemlock Wraithfighter
HEAVY SUPPORT:
Fire Prism
Fire Prism
FORMATION: ASPECT HOST
8 Warp Spiders - Exarch w twin spinner
5 Fire Dragons w Exarch
Wave Serpent - scatter laser, shuriken cannon
7 Dark Reapers w Exarch - starshot missiles
Wave Serpent - scatter laser, shuriken cannon

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I don't know if you are aware but currently GW are in the process of creating a new F&Q with one rule being: only one model in a unit may use 1 grenade in close combat.

If and when this rule goes through, you'll find that you have significantly less use out of the Swooping Hawks.

The Hemlocks are silly expensive but are toting D weapons for amazing anti tank capabilities. They have been affected by recent developments as well:
- Witch fires without a weapons profile hit automatically, meaning Psychic Shriek just got a very powerful buff
- With the new 'Death from the Skies' expansion skyfire has been taken away from a majority of flyers, which may mean additional survivability, bonuses to reserve manipulation if you have 'air superiority' (whether people use the new expansion is debatable though)

Dark Reapers are silly expensive again but still fire off the insane amount of AP3 firepower you know and love from yesteryear

Scatterbikes are silly cheap for the amount of firepower you put down... nuff said

List wise:

I think you'll get more use out of Nightspinner squadrons (and their squadron benefits) at S8+ with monofiliment for a ton of instant killing/ torrent flaming/ large barrage firing weapons of mass destruction... then again Fire prisms look great

I think you are doing yourself a disservice without the Spirit Stone of Anath'lan

You maybe investing too many points into large squads of aspect warriors but that's just my preference.

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Thanks Torus. Yes, I saw the draft FAQ. I'm hoping for the best, but I'll be using these guys till those get confirmed. If it's really limiting grenade attacks, RAW Intercept is not grenade attacks, and these guys would still rock in bringing down flyers.

Yes, the reason I've never used Hemlocks and Reapers before was the points cost! Both are silly expensive. And you hit it on the nail why they are both in my list.

I am considering Night Spinners ... seriously considering them actually, And it's cheap too!

Thanks for the thoughts Torus

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Assuming you have the models, rather than running the CAD switch to a windrider host, You only have to add 1 warlock and 1 vyper to qualify and could take advantage of the shuricannon buff.

IMO too many points invested in the fire dragons. It is a kamikase anti-tank unit, Why not attach a bike warlock to each bike unit and then a warlock conclave. singing spears are just as effective as fire dragons and have the benefit of auto having Reveal to strip cover from pesky targets.

I have found minimum squads or reapers to be effective just EML on the exarch and S8 missiles for the other two.

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Thanks DAaddict. Yes, I do have the models for windrider host. In fact, I have a Windrider list that's pretty close to what you suggested. Haven't tried that on table either. Thanks again


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@Torus --- Spirit Stone of Anath'lan! I left that one out! Thanks, I'll see how I can fit it in

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 spunkybass wrote:
Hi I'm coming back to 40k after more than a year, and have yet to try the current Eldar codex (had to put hobby on hold a few days after I bought the codex).
You will find the new book put a serious nerf on Wave Serpents. They are now just expensive transports with no where near the fire power of the 6e codex. Its points are better spent on moar dakka. Like all bikes being Scats!

 spunkybass wrote:
5 jetbikes - 3 scatter lasers
5 jetbikes - 3 scatter lasers
4 jetbikes - 2 shuriken cannon
4 jetbikes - 2 shuriken cannon
18 bikes. Maybe 6 units of 3? You know, the MSU approach in general.

 spunkybass wrote:
FORMATION: ASPECT HOST
8 Warp Spiders - Exarch w twin spinner
5 Fire Dragons w Exarch
Wave Serpent - scatter laser, shuriken cannon
7 Dark Reapers w Exarch - starshot missiles
Wave Serpent - scatter laser, shuriken cannon

a. The few points on Twin Linking the spider exarch is maybe more gun elsewhere, especially when you toss out the W'Serpents.
b. I know the FireDs need the ride, but then again, 40k has become such a fast mobile game, an Imperial Knight is going to be somewhere mid-table ish.
c. 7 reapers is a lot. I have found 5 to usually get the job done on killing what they're shooting.
d. fer sure, toss one serpent, if not both. I don't see the purpose in the 2nd boat. Anyway, its points can be upgrading the rest of your jetbikes to ScatLas. The other serpent's points can be a Jetlock or two, because Reveal is going to be very helpful versus skitarii, Dark Angels Limousine, Nurgle lists, etc.

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Thanks. Part of the reason behind the list is it's based on models I have. I just realized I can upgrade 6 more bikes with cannon though, from the bits leftover from my 6 scatbikes.

MSU - I will definitely try. Have never used MSU before actually.

I'll take your tip on the Serpents. Perhaps ditch them and take a Falcon for the Dragons.

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 spunkybass wrote:
Thanks. Part of the reason behind the list is it's based on models I have. I just realized I can upgrade 6 more bikes with cannon though, from the bits leftover from my 6 scatbikes.
It is generally accepted that if you say a bike has Scats, and it is on your list, then you need not worry about actually getting the triangular ScatLas bit on there. I haven't bothered and it has been well over a year and no one has said boo about it.

MSU is not so much a tactic, as an army approach (okay, duh, it *is* a tactic ). Lots of little units converging to kill parts of the enemy's army: It spreads your fire power, good for you. It spreads you enemy's fire power, again good for you and he needs to split up his guns to pick off every little bit of yours. Tough on low model count armies.

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I'm cool with the MSU thing. Just redid the list to have 6 squads of 3 bikes. It does look better,.

I'm not sure about the Scatbike bit thing. People are kind of particular about WYISWYG around here

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Thanks guys, after incorporating some of the feedback here, I had my first game in 15 months last weekend. The list I ended up with:

Craftworld Eldar CAD
HQ:
Farseer - jetbike, singing spear, spirit stone of Anath'lan
TROOPS:
6 jetbikes - 6 scatter (originally this was in 2 squads, but last minute I decided to try one big squad)
3 jetbikes - 3 shuriken cannon
3 jetbikes - 3 shuriken cannon
3 jetbikes - 2 shuriken cannon
3 jetbikes - 2 shuriken cannon
FAST ATTACK:
6 Swooping Hawks
Hemlock
HEAVY SUPPORT:
Fire Prism
Fire Prism
Falcon
ASPECT HOST:
8 Warp Spiders
5 Fire Dragons
7 Dark Reapers

Played against a bug list that had a Heriophant and flying Tyrants.

I made a lot of nube mistakes, but Eldar won 12-10 in a Deadlock mission. One of the things I want to fix with the list is to use only MSU jetbike squads.

The list is super fast and has tons of firepower. Amazing. My losses were heavy, but I think as I get back into the game I'll make less nube mistakes.

I'm not sure of the Fire Dragons. Then again, there were no tanks to shoot at.

I am considering swapping the Dragons and Falcon and 1 Dark Reaper warrior for 2 bright-lance Wave Serpents and a warlock on jetbike.

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 spunkybass wrote:
I am considering swapping the Dragons and Falcon and 1 Dark Reaper warrior for 2 bright-lance Wave Serpents and a warlock on jetbike.

Why? What will you put in them? Wave Serpents, while good, aren't as good as they used to be and the falcon and dragons put out more anti-tank and anti-mc fire power. If you drop the dragons you also won't get the aspect host buff.

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Yes, good points. I tried it out at home, and decided to keep the Dragons. I did replace the Falcon with a Wave Serpent though. The Wave Serpent is a superior transport I think, with the ability to turn pen's into glances easily. Primary role would be to speed the Dragons to their target, and then act as an auxiliary gunship (I'm thinking bright lance in the turret, as the army has so many scatters and shuriken cannon already).

With the points I could either add a couple of guys to the Aspects, or take away a couple of guys in the Aspects and add a Warlock or two

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