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I really don't mind people around the store hanging out and talking tactics but it seems to me now every time I buy a new box at my local store the same guy leans in with his disapproval of my choice in model. I've played the guy before and sure he's a 40k vet and is just trying to help a fairly new player who looses all the time. But the last time we played I got crushed by his green tide and 2 morkanaughts (that he assured me was an non-competitive list, I knew I would loose but just wanted to play) I catch this man saying "yea its not very fun just beating the gak out of your opponent". Next encounter I go to get a new box and hang around for a few minutes, same guy demands to see what I got practically takes it from my hands and says oh yea that's not a bad choice as if I need his approval. Next time I see the guy is right after dfts drops and has me excited to theme my ork army around flyers (I had already got the new one) I say so what did you guys think of the new change? Responds with its stupid I won't use the new rules and the new flyers suck and if you get one your dumb. That one got me discouraged just to bring my stuff to the store. Last encounter I'm getting my second ork flyer, here's this guy again hanging right by the register sees me buying it and says "what are you doing, hey what are you doing?" as if I was supposed to take his advice as law. I just said "I'm doing it man" while he shakes his head. Honestly I'm suprised the employees didn't say wtf to this guy trying to stop me from buying a 70$ model at the register.

I guess my rant comes to: look man you already run the green tide here I don't want the same army as you, I don't care about winning as much as you and lastly no one tells me how to spend my money I don't care what motivates you to make your list and I damn sure don't need anyone's approval to make mine.


Anyone else have a neckbeard they need to rant about?

Does the dude in question literally have a neck beard?

Dakkajets are one of the most awesome looking models GW make, so anyone who tries to dissuade you from including them in your army is an idiot. Warhammer is about far more than beating an opponent... I guess that guy forgot all about the 'hobby' side of things.

He literally does. And agreed, 40k is my zen activity the game itself is an added bonus (a really sweet bonus) that being said I build and paint what I think is cool trying to win with is is the challenge and fun after its done

 Traditio wrote:
Does the dude in question literally have a neck beard?

Some of us can't help where our facial hair grows. : (

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People are allowed to have the facial hair style they want. They're not rubbing your face against it.

He sounds like a dumb hick. Honestly, people like that are giving other, "normal" players a bad name.

Do guys with neck beards use paragraphs?

 Pouncey wrote:

 Traditio wrote:
Does the dude in question literally have a neck beard?

Some of us can't help where our facial hair grows. : (

Seconded!

I can't grow a proper beard (and I'm not 12 xD) - the moustache never connects with the beard and my beard is patchy anyway.
Seems like I take after my father since he can't grow one properly either .

Then I Sir introduce you to the greatest neutral yet condescending phrase I have come across in my career in law.

"Duly noted".

Drops mic...

Well, to be totally fair, any list that contains 2 morkanauts is by definition not competitive. Those things are hot garbage. A killa kan has a very, very good chance of inflicting crippling damage to one, and they're five times more expensive. Never mind something outrageous like a 2.5x less expensive dreadnought, which will statistically one shot it every time before it gets to swing.

Those things are in competition for the worst unit in the entire game. But complaining about you including a flyer is interesting....because if you made that flyer into a blitza-bommer, it would have a solid chance of leaving a 'naut a crater, or a useless crippled wreck, or it could just take a huge chunk out of a green tide.

Sorry to hear that nateprati! This is a really bad habit that a lot of gamers (not just 40k gamers!) and even STORE OWNERS sometimes get into. I think it stems from the fact that we spend so much on our hobbies that we don't want others to feel like they were cheated of their money's worth. In this guy's mind, if you're buying stuff that isn't going to help you win, then it doesn't make sense to buy it. He couldn't be more wrong. Sometimes you want to buy something just because it's a cool-looking model, or because you have a niche you want to fill, or because it's part of a formation you want to play, or because hey, it's a freak'in Ork flying a freak'in plane held together by freak'in duct tape! No other explanation required!

Some people might say it's only 40k players that do this, but it isn't. It's less common in Magic, where there are more formats where such cards can shine (like Pauper, or Commander), but even there players will be like "why do you have X card in your deck? wouldn't X card be better"? So it's not just 40k. It's just that our single purchases tend to be bigger, we don't change up "lists" as often, and there's fewer opportunities for varied formats.


Lastly, please, it's "lose" not "loose". I know auto-correct and yadda, yadda, "my phone changes it for me", but I know you can do it. I believe in you!

My simple words of advise

- dont play against people who are arseholes
- dont take advise from arseholes (myself excluded :-) )
- Ignore arsehole comments from arseholes about your personal choices in life or in game.
- learn the raised eyebrow look of "dude get out of my face" for situations where arseholes get in your face.

Ok, no idea why he's a neckbeared, he's just a self-centered douche.


However, should the situation rises again when he gives you his "advice", the proper response is "I did not ask for your opinion", as bluntly and snarkly as humanly possible.

I'm sorry you had to deal with one of them, bud. It's not fun, and can often leave a sour taste in ones mouth about the hobby, and in fact was the biggest reason it took me decade to start, when I knew I loved the game, I wasn't sure about the people. But I've met some really great people through my FLGS, Dakka, and MWG alone, and only a few people I didn't like. Unfortunately(as anyone who works in the service industry will tell you) the negatives are usually the ones who stick out the most to our experiences. No matter what game or hobby, you're going to have people whose only goal is to win and be the best, even if it's only out of 8 people. You're also always going to have know it alls, who will tell you what's good and what isn't and how to run your hobby, and usually they're wrong or just boring. So you do you, buddy, and play to your style. I've learned that a person could play the best build, and if it doesn't match them, they won't be very good with it. So if the aforementioned and amazing sounding Ork flyer is your thing, than rock that Bad MoFo out. This is coming from a guy who has Cataphractii Termies in his army, and they're not exactly the best, even for Termies.

I guess I am missing something. This "Neckbeard" engages you in conversation. Shows interest in your progress in the hobby. Offers advice (admittedly unsolicited, but the solicited kind is very rare), isn't a bad gaming opponent, and has inoffensive hygiene. That's high average in this hobby. As you get more confidence in the hobby, and more familiar with the crowd in the store, none of that is going to seem off-putting. You're the new guy, he probably has worn out his welcome with the vets. Cut him some slack. At least there is a friendly face when you go to the store. You'll make more friends. Then, you'll be offering your own unsolicited advice, soon enough.

Heck, I moved to a new city when I was younger, and after joining the new gaming crowd, somehow became the object of ire of a guy who was a no-kidding ex-convict, still on probation. Maybe I reminded him of his abusive father. Anyway, dealing with that was no fun. Then he stopped coming around. It could be worse.

Neckbeard is just a term for a type of gamer, no need for you all to get uppity. It only takes one guy to ruin a set of facial hair(looking at you Stalin)

Yes type of gamer, I myself have a beard I just let go. Thanks for the advice guys, he's not a bad guy just started to make me a bit uncomfortable, he plays well he's always down for a game and he's generally not that bad, it just all came up to this last incident that left me with a bad taste. I just need to beat him in the future for him to respect me as a 40k player. Atleast the guy has most of his army painted

You asked about what people thought of the new supplement. If you weren't prepared for the answer, don't ask the question. Especially don't ask the question of someone who seems to enjoy different aspects of the game than you do. I'm not going to talk about the new Genestealers vs Imperial Guard board game with the guys who buy tournament list armies, have them painted by someone else and enjoy playing competitively. Tune your conversations for who you are trying to converse with or be prepared for different opinions.

If you don't like his advice, grow some thicker skin. He's not berating you according to your own account, just expressing his own opinion. He didn't call you an asshat for buying an inferior unit. He 'just shakes his head' and keeps any criticizing words to himself. That's pretty friggin respectful if you ask me.

Pouncey wrote:Some of us can't help where our facial hair grows. : (

It's called a razor. Some of us prefer the Roman look to the Greek one.

In all seriousness, though, I was just wondering whether the OP meant a literal neckbeard, or if he was just using the term to denote a personality type.

Apparently, the answer is "both."

 SharkoutofWata wrote:
I'm not going to talk about the new Genestealers vs Imperial Guard board game with the guys...

IF there was such a boardgame, I wouldn't stop talking about it.

 Gobbla wrote:

 SharkoutofWata wrote:
I'm not going to talk about the new Genestealers vs Imperial Guard board game with the guys...

IF there was such a boardgame, I wouldn't stop talking about it.

I saw something in the store. Looked like a crappy version of Space Hulk with current production models. Hex-tile board, it wasn't anything thrilling from the perspective of someone not into board games. Death World of something like that, I don't know.

It's the redux of Lost Patrol. Space Marine Scouts versus Genestealers in the jungle.

It's apparently a smaller, easier to learn but faster paced space hulk style game, and reportedly a lot of fun from those I've spoken to who have played it.

Hopefully that helps. Take it easy.

-Red__Thirst-

Yep, that's the one I meant.

 SharkoutofWata wrote:
He's not berating you according to your own account, just expressing his own opinion. He didn't call you an asshat for buying an inferior unit. He 'just shakes his head' and keeps any criticizing words to himself. That's pretty friggin respectful if you ask me.

I'm sorry but your opinion doesn't matter when you're being a jerkoff about it to someone in the store you don't even know. Have you ever seen people at the supermarket scoff and shake their heads disapprovingly because you bought unhealthy foods? No, because people for the most part know to keep their opinions to themselves. You say he was, but I disagree. He could've at least explained and said "hey man, I've tried dakkajets before and they don't make up their point cost in a setting where scatbikes are numerous" but he chose the 'roll my eyes and make noises drawing attention to myself' approach.

Sounds like though he might (and I emphasize might) be trying to be helpful, sounds like he has all the tact of a bag of hammers. You either just gotta let it roll off you or draw the line and let him know its your hobby, your choice, and if he wants to give well thought out constructive criticism that's okay, but you're not there to take flak because you're not having fun the right way.

There no need to be rude though but from past experience and what I gather of the person (I could be totally wrong) you'll need to be firm and probably repeat it multiple times.

Hope that helps, just remember, your hobby, your choice, and as long as you're having fun and no one is getting hurt your golden.

Yes. Because the presence of facial hair on ones neck is a public notification of one being that guy. In fact, after someone completes the training at "that guy" college, they get thier diploma, an ego, and neck beard installment software. If you encounter a "that guy" without a neck beard, he's either still in training or one of GWs ultra top secret mythic finestealth guys. Be afraid. Or just ignore them. Or be afraid. Yea. Afraid. That will do.....

Caedes wrote:
Yes. Because the presence of facial hair on ones neck is a public notification of one being that guy. In fact, after someone completes the training at "that guy" college, they get thier diploma, an ego, and neck beard installment software. If you encounter a "that guy" without a neck beard, he's either still in training or one of GWs ultra top secret mythic finestealth guys. Be afraid. Or just ignore them. Or be afraid. Yea. Afraid. That will do.....

Avoid being that guy.

Join the dollar shave club.

 Traditio wrote:

Caedes wrote:
Yes. Because the presence of facial hair on ones neck is a public notification of one being that guy. In fact, after someone completes the training at "that guy" college, they get thier diploma, an ego, and neck beard installment software. If you encounter a "that guy" without a neck beard, he's either still in training or one of GWs ultra top secret mythic finestealth guys. Be afraid. Or just ignore them. Or be afraid. Yea. Afraid. That will do.....

Avoid being that guy.

Join the dollar shave club.

I get charged a few dollars extra over most men for a shave because my barber says my beard and facial hair is extremely tough to work with. Soft to the touch when long, but hard as hell when being cut or when short. :(