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So we are launching a portable game table on kickstarter.

It's 6x4 feet of play space. It weighs about 27lbs, and it folds up into a carry case so you can transport it in your car or slip it under a bed when it's not in use.

Please visit our kickstarter and have a look.

Thank you for your interest and may you roll many 6's.

www.firmerterra.com

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1544983357/alpha-a-portable-gaming-table-for-miniatures-games




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So this is our experimental model. We primed and painted the surface. With a little paint and creativity you get a map and a portable play surface.

Make War Everywhere.

Thanks for looking,

Joe

I just moved into a new house with a room that will be dedicated to 'entertaining' so this is absolutely perfect for my needs and the timing couldn't be better. Backed.

I think you'll struggle to get backers from outside the US with the lack of overseas rewards. Might be worth looking into changing that. Infact the UK and Europe would probably be more likely customers due to the generally smaller houses and lack of usable space as opposed to the US. Just my 2 cents. Good idea though. Would definitely help to see a full working product in detail though. Until then I have a lot of doubts.

Looks very nice!

I love the idea. But not being in the US, I can't do anything to help you.

Bobug wrote:
I think you'll struggle to get backers from outside the US with the lack of overseas rewards. Might be worth looking into changing that. Infact the UK and Europe would probably be more likely customers due to the generally smaller houses and lack of usable space as opposed to the US. Just my 2 cents. Good idea though. Would definitely help to see a full working product in detail though. Until then I have a lot of doubts.

I can see why they wouldn't though, shipping would likely cost more than the product itself due to the weight and size, I seem to recall some people in Italy doing a similar kickstarter some time back; maybe check into progress on that one?

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It looks like it's being assembled abroad so if they wanted to deal with the vagaries of VAT and locating a UK/EU-based partner for distribution, they could expand it but again, that sounds like an awful lot of trouble if they want to keep it small as a proof of concept/demand before getting into international taxation, customs, etc.

Yup, overseas postage on this would kill it. For example, if I were to send a Forge World book weighing under 1.2kg to the States (me being in the UK) it would cost £15+. The shipping on a table such as this would just be a no go as far as being cost effective.

Good luck with the project.

To me this just looks like a fancy folding table. Honestly I could get some piano hinges and cut up an 8x4 piece of plywood, attach some folding legs and have myself the same thing. All that would cost me about $25 at home depot and an hour of my time.

I don't see anything special about this table, not for $140 plus $35 in shipping.

It's a real need and one I've been thinking about... unfortunately I think your solution needs more polish (and really probably only needs to be 6x4).

US only.

 namiel wrote:
To me this just looks like a fancy folding table. Honestly I could get some piano hinges and cut up an 8x4 piece of plywood, attach some folding legs and have myself the same thing. All that would cost me about $25 at home depot and an hour of my time.

I don't see anything special about this table, not for $140 plus $35 in shipping.

Please make a guide. Saw a few on the web, all looks too heavy to tow around.

Waaargh wrote:
US only.

 namiel wrote:
To me this just looks like a fancy folding table. Honestly I could get some piano hinges and cut up an 8x4 piece of plywood, attach some folding legs and have myself the same thing. All that would cost me about $25 at home depot and an hour of my time.

I don't see anything special about this table, not for $140 plus $35 in shipping.

Please make a guide. Saw a few on the web, all looks too heavy to tow around.

It will all depend on what you use. If you spring for lighter materials youll pay more but easier to carry or you get lighter materials but with less strength. Using 2x2s and 1x2s you could build one with hardboard that would be pretty light BUT if you leaned on it would probably bust

Bobug wrote:
I think you'll struggle to get backers from outside the US with the lack of overseas rewards. Might be worth looking into changing that. Infact the UK and Europe would probably be more likely customers due to the generally smaller houses and lack of usable space as opposed to the US. Just my 2 cents. Good idea though. Would definitely help to see a full working product in detail though. Until then I have a lot of doubts.

Greetings. This was not an easy decision. We will be offering this table to Europe once our domestic campaign is completed. So please be patient, this will be ready for you soon. I would love to just open everyone to the purchase but shipping and customs clearance becomes a hurdle that could slow down the whole process. Send me a PM and I'll keep you on the list.

All the best,
Joe



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 agnosto wrote:

Bobug wrote:
I think you'll struggle to get backers from outside the US with the lack of overseas rewards. Might be worth looking into changing that. Infact the UK and Europe would probably be more likely customers due to the generally smaller houses and lack of usable space as opposed to the US. Just my 2 cents. Good idea though. Would definitely help to see a full working product in detail though. Until then I have a lot of doubts.

I can see why they wouldn't though, shipping would likely cost more than the product itself due to the weight and size, I seem to recall some people in Italy doing a similar kickstarter some time back; maybe check into progress on that one?

Edit:

It looks like it's being assembled abroad so if they wanted to deal with the vagaries of VAT and locating a UK/EU-based partner for distribution, they could expand it but again, that sounds like an awful lot of trouble if they want to keep it small as a proof of concept/demand before getting into international taxation, customs, etc.

We already have a distributor ready in Europe. Let us complete the domestic campaign and we will roll out there next. You hit the nail on the head sir. Please spread the word. The sooner we get this campaign up to steam the sooner we can start on foreign sales. Thanks.


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 namiel wrote:
To me this just looks like a fancy folding table. Honestly I could get some piano hinges and cut up an 8x4 piece of plywood, attach some folding legs and have myself the same thing. All that would cost me about $25 at home depot and an hour of my time.

I don't see anything special about this table, not for $140 plus $35 in shipping.

I totally understand where you're coming from. I have experience as a craftsman.

I tried the ply board solution with little stoppers. Essentially I had a ply board that went on top of a table. The stoppers were recessed since the table wasn't wide enough. Which lead to instability. Also wife wasn't happy about the fact that a bunch of us were rolling dice and drinking beer in the dining room.
A good construct out of ply wood and 2x4's will run you about 150.00 to 200.00 (assuming about 50 to 80 for your time since it's a 5 hour project with the finishing touches. That's something that you can be proud-of-level not just nails and splinters. Now you're stuck with a giant table somewhere.

We didn't engineer this for the sake of just having a table, we made this so that you can take a surface to any room or any home. A 10 year-old assembled this in 4 minutes out of the box without instructions. Simple, fast, and out of the way.

But thanks for the constructive criticism.

Joe

Great to hear.

One thing I would rate highly was for a battlemat to fit on top of it, without gettingdamaged on the corners. Can it be done?

Dose this table ship to Canada or only in the us?

Would've backed instantly but then I saw US only...


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I love your project but if you're not shipping US then I sadly cannot see how you'd be able to compete against other brands, such as gamemat.eu's foldable table.

 Zewrath wrote:
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I love your project but if you're not shipping US then I sadly cannot see how you'd be able to compete against other brands, such as gamemat.eu's foldable table.

Ironically, gamemat.eu's folding table is not yet available for US customers. I emailed them today about this.

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Just got a reply and gamemat.eu do economy shipping to the US with a 3-4 week delivery time. I don't know how it's reconciled on the webstore, though.

Greetings.

First of.... WE WILL BE SHIPPING WORLD WIDE as soon as we fulfill the US Kickstarter campaign. If you can't buy the ALPHA right now then please consider donating to get us moving along.

Shipping outside of the US will involve customs clearance and additional fees. We wanted to keep this simple and under control for our initial run. But YES, we already have a warehouse booked in Europe for distribution.

This kickstarter is about getting a product off the ground.

We need your help, we need you to tell a friend.

EmergencyPod wrote:
Greetings.

First of.... WE WILL BE SHIPPING WORLD WIDE as soon as we fulfill the US Kickstarter campaign. If you can't buy the ALPHA right now then please consider donating to get us moving along.

Shipping outside of the US will involve customs clearance and additional fees. We wanted to keep this simple and under control for our initial run. But YES, we already have a warehouse booked in Europe for distribution.

This kickstarter is about getting a product off the ground.

We need your help, we need you to tell a friend.

So what you're saying is if I, say, pledge and I'm located in Denmark, you will ship to me if you actually become successful with your funding? If that's the case then why bother typing "US only" in the first place?

He is saying, Europeans pledging now get nothing but the chance to help bring this to the US market. You would be donating money, not buying anything. The taxes and customs fees for shipping make it too expensive to ship to Europe right now, that is why it is US only. They will offer it for sale later in Europe when they can make the price more affordable.

This looks like just what I want for gaming at home, with the unexpected benefit of being portable enough to take out for demos, etc. Its also much nicer looking than I could make on my own.

I've heard people elsewhere suggest just buying a Ping-Pong table, instead. I had actually been considering this, but a ping pong table is 5x8 ft IIRC, which is too large for my gaming room at home. It also lacks the portability that this table has.

Looks like a great product and for the price I think I'm going to go ahead and pledge!

I just moved into a new apartment where space is at a premium. I'm definitely interested in this.

I am leary of kickstarter, but I think I will open my wallet for this one on the 7th or so of August.

This would be perfect for my needs, plus I can use it as a normal table, what a bonus!

We'll see if I get the cash to back though. Probably not but I'm keeping my hopes up

I love this idea and plan to back the KS.

To be clear. We want to get the domestic campaign done for domestic buyers. If you live outside of the US and want to see this product become a reality then please donate something. You can also go on our main page and email your contact information so that we can email you when the table is available for purchase in your country. We wanted to keep things simple despite missing out on some foreign customers.

We have negotiated with a warehouse in Europe. We will offer these tables from our website once they are available for purchase.

Thanks and keep telling your friends,

Joe

Semi-fold feature (stabilized for a 3' by 4' play surface)

Saw this on the campaign page.

How does that work?

Can you show a picture of it set up as a 3'x4'?

Thanks

Or better yet - a video going through all the "modes."

I like the idea of a straight 6x4 table folded like that. its awesome.

but my only gripe is the rounded corners.

 Desubot wrote:
I like the idea of a straight 6x4 table folded like that. its awesome.

but my only gripe is the rounded corners.

Yeah, if the corners are rounded with a lip, that may be a bit annoying to fit on tiles like you'd get from Secret Weapon's Tablescapes or a Realm of Battle.

 namiel wrote:
To me this just looks like a fancy folding table. Honestly I could get some piano hinges and cut up an 8x4 piece of plywood, attach some folding legs and have myself the same thing. All that would cost me about $25 at home depot and an hour of my time.

I don't see anything special about this table, not for $140 plus $35 in shipping.

Well, you're welcome to build your own, then.

$140 is well worth it for me, considering the time it would take to make something comparable on my own.