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2016/09/19 16:40:03
Subject: Thinking of just using regular marines as sisters of battle
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Elite Tyranid Warrior
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So I've been wanting to make a small inquisition detachment for awhile, I have the inquisition but I want one of the three ordos to go with it. Of course there are sisters of battle models but they're simply not good and overpriced, I was thinking of just taking helmets off of regular space marines and using third party heads that are feminine, and buying bits for their weapons. Would this be acceptable in games or are people very peculiar when it comes to sisters?
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2016/09/19 16:43:07
Subject: Thinking of just using regular marines as sisters of battle
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it could go either way. Personally I find it to look rather uncanny (google will turn up a few results).
One good and cheap conversion is to use Dark Eldar Kabalites with some SM backpacks and Bolters. There's enough believable female heads on kabalites to work, and it's not that much more expensive than a box of Tacticals either.
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2016/09/19 16:44:32
Subject: Thinking of just using regular marines as sisters of battle
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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luky7dayz wrote:So I've been wanting to make a small inquisition detachment for awhile, I have the inquisition but I want one of the three ordos to go with it. Of course there are sisters of battle models but they're simply not good and overpriced, I was thinking of just taking helmets off of regular space marines and using third party heads that are feminine, and buying bits for their weapons. Would this be acceptable in games or are people very peculiar when it comes to sisters?
Those last two are not mutually exclusive.
I’d not have a problem with it. From a WYSWYG POV, they all use the same weapons. Stats and special rules are different, but that’s not a huge deal to keep straight. Just need to make sure I don’t fall into the mental trap of assuming marine rules.
But will there be people who have an issue? Probably. Check with the folks down at your FLGS and see what they have to say.
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2016/09/19 17:42:50
Subject: Thinking of just using regular marines as sisters of battle
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Nobody will care because building a SoB army would be THAT long and expensive.
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2016/09/19 17:59:36
Subject: Thinking of just using regular marines as sisters of battle
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Mighty Vampire Count
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luky7dayz wrote:So I've been wanting to make a small inquisition detachment for awhile, I have the inquisition but I want one of the three ordos to go with it. Of course there are sisters of battle models but they're simply not good and overpriced, I was thinking of just taking helmets off of regular space marines and using third party heads that are feminine, and buying bits for their weapons. Would this be acceptable in games or are people very peculiar when it comes to sisters?
I disagree the models are not good but yes they are expensive.
I would not have any issue playing against them but I am not your games group. They might have a bit of a shock if they have not played against Dominions before
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2016/09/19 19:16:27
Subject: Re:Thinking of just using regular marines as sisters of battle
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Preacher of the Emperor
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You will, eventually, encounter a player who will refuse to accept even the most carefully crafted conversion as an acceptable stand-in for the model you want it to represent. The odds of that happening decrease the more impressive the kitbash is, but never truly reaches zero.
Unfortunately, a regular space marine with a woman's head isn't, by itself, all that impressive...
That said, I've seen a good array of different conversion ideas for sisters, the one involving kabalite warrior and space marine parts looks really good for the standard battle sister, but kind of falls apart when they are carrying heavier equipment. I've seen a good one using space marine scout torsos, marine arms and backpacks, it kind of felt weird because they made a full Greenstuff skirt but there is potential there. I also think tempestus bodies have a lot of potential for something like that too.
If you focus too hard on making them look like Sororitas, your options are restricted, but if you try to make them look like women in power armour, you may end up making them look like acolytes instead.
Fluff-wise it's really easy to justify: the standard Sororitas Power armour is rejected by this particular convent as they feel it's a part of Vandire's legacy. Even a lazy space-marine-with-female-head is basically in line with the depiction of Sister Sin, anyway.
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2016/09/19 19:19:45
Subject: Re:Thinking of just using regular marines as sisters of battle
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I'd wholly disagree that the sisters models are bad.
They're some of the most strikingly beautiful models I think GW has ever produced.
Does that sound too biased?
I wouldn't do it personally but I understand why you would.
Depending in where you play I'd say ask around. If you play at GW remember they won't allow anyone to play in there with none GW models so if you are going to convert make sure you're not using third party stuff.
I wouldn't mind playing against you though.
Edit:... And I've got GW sisters
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2016/09/19 20:46:05
Subject: Thinking of just using regular marines as sisters of battle
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Elite Tyranid Warrior
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So I've found a few designs I like, some are more games workshop then others
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/02/plastic-sisters-wait.html
This one here is nice, but the issue is that it's mostly third party, so while It does match them aesthetically it doesn't support the brand.
http://s1104.photobucket.com/user/tallyho48/library/Sisters%20of%20Battle%20Conversion?sort=3&page=1
This second link is nice because it's your basic power armour with third party heads, personally they're my favourite, although I would like the head a little lower then that.
I'm trying to keep them in thick power armour, I looked at kabalite Warriors but their armour looks so tiny that I don't really like it, and I'm trying to avoid the notion of adding breasts to the suits, because I feel it's a silly idea
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2016/09/19 21:01:54
Subject: Thinking of just using regular marines as sisters of battle
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Valkirs + Statuesque heads = best look so far.
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2016/09/19 21:06:53
Subject: Thinking of just using regular marines as sisters of battle
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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On top of this the hands fit bolters really well. I tried doing a greenstuff cast to get some fleur- de-lys onto a test model, but I need some more practice with it.
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2016/09/19 21:33:43
Subject: Thinking of just using regular marines as sisters of battle
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Meh sisters are a common army around here, and they do have their own unique aesthetics. I would not want to invest too heavily in those not quite SoB alternatives.
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2016/09/19 21:36:18
Subject: Thinking of just using regular marines as sisters of battle
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Rogue Daemonhunter fueled by Chaos
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I sympathize with the cost/difficulty of building a sisters army, but Marines with female heads are still, well, marines. I'm nto saying it can't be done well, I'm just not confident that you'd be able to get around the sheer "those are space marines" look.
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2016/09/19 21:49:52
Subject: Thinking of just using regular marines as sisters of battle
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Gargantuan Gargant
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I agree. The Valkir Sororitas conversions look great.
but that isn't too shaby either, and most of us probably have a supply of unused Astartes kicking around, well at least know I do.
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2016/09/19 23:00:49
Subject: Thinking of just using regular marines as sisters of battle
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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I would be fine with playing against what you describe. Though the title of your thread made me think of a cool idea for a custom chapter.
A Chapter with a compromised Gene Seed leading to reduced stats. But their fervent faith in the Emperor sees them through time and again. Then just use WYSIWYG loadouts to run your Space Marines using the Sisters book.
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2016/09/20 00:28:53
Subject: Thinking of just using regular marines as sisters of battle
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Preacher of the Emperor
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Um.... honestly, even with the miscasting, even with the cracks they sometimes have, and all the work you need to do to clear off flash and the like, the existing sisters models look a lot better than these. The concept can be executed a lot better, but at its core, I don't think the idea really works...
That said, I did a quick mock-up using the sample model pictures on GW's site, and I think I might try to build some acolytes this way...
... I had to scribble in the hair, that would presumably be done with some green-stuff, rather than lazy crayoning.
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2016/09/20 05:53:12
Subject: Thinking of just using regular marines as sisters of battle
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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I play orks as sistaz. They yell ORKZ ORKZ ORKZ ORKZ ORKZ ORKZ WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH! and get preferred enemy. Noone minds.
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2016/09/20 09:31:48
Subject: Thinking of just using regular marines as sisters of battle
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Worthiest of Warlock Engineers
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The Sisters models are dated but compared to many of the new releases from GW they look far better.
As for proxying, well if you are ever against me then feel free too. Many GW kits are far to expensive for there quality and Sisters, no matter how good they look, sadly fall into that category.
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2016/09/20 14:25:00
Subject: Thinking of just using regular marines as sisters of battle
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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I wouldn't deny playing against you, but I wouldn't support the conversion if asked, because I think the Sororitas aesthetics in general are superior to the Astartes ones. The images linked above just look like Female Space Marines, not Sisters of Battle. Might as well say "I want to play Eldar, would you be okay with me using Space Marine Scouts to proxy them?" My answer would be "I guess, but they still look wrong and don't match the aesthetics."
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2016/09/20 14:38:25
Subject: Thinking of just using regular marines as sisters of battle
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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Eh, I wouldn't use regular marines. There's enough non-GW minis you could use that look tons better than slapping a sisters head on a marine.
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