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2016/09/24 09:26:21
Subject: [1850] - Blood Angels - Drop Assault
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Furious Fire Dragon
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So this is probably pretty similar to everything else that has come out of the new angels blade book but I wanted to see what I could do with the new angels blade strike force. Is this in any way competitive and how could I improve it?
Angels Blade Strike Force
Core - Archangels Demi-Company
- Terminator Captain - 160
-- Storm Shield, Valours Edge
- Furioso Dreadnought - 160
-- Drop Pod
- Furioso Dreadnought - 160
-- Drop Pod
- Sternguard Veteran Squad - 145
-- Drop Pod
- Sternguard Veteran Squad - 145
-- Drop Pod
- Sternguard Veteran Squad - 145
-- Drop Pod
- Sternguard Veteran Squad - 145
-- Drop Pod
- Sternguard Veteran Squad - 145
-- Drop Pod
Auxiliary - Archangels Orbital Intervention Force
- Terminator Assault Squad - 215
-- 2x Thunder Hammer and Storm Shield, Sergeant (Thunder Hammer and Storm Shield)
- Terminator Assault Squad - 215
-- 2x Thunder Hammer and Storm Shield, Sergeant (Thunder Hammer and Storm Shield)
- Terminator Assault Squad - 215
-- 2x Thunder Hammer and Storm Shield, Sergeant (Thunder Hammer and Storm Shield)
The captain joins one of the terminator squads and hopefully drops in and charges turn two. The two dreadnoughts and two of the vet squads come in automatically turn one thanks to drop pod assault and the other vets hopefully to come in at the same time.
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For Khaela Mensha Khaine
For the Emperor and Sanguinius!
DS:90+S++G+++MB--IPw40k15#+D+A+/mWD-R+T(T)DM+ |
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2016/09/26 01:05:38
Subject: [1850] - Blood Angels - Drop Assault
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Chosen Baal Sec Youngblood
Columbia MD
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Looks good. Though I don't know if the captain can join the terminator squad and get their rules. Can anyone confirm this?
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2016/09/26 17:06:46
Subject: [1850] - Blood Angels - Drop Assault
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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You can't add any ICs to a formation without negating the formation rules.
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2016/09/26 20:04:55
Subject: [1850] - Blood Angels - Drop Assault
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Raging-on-the-Inside Blood Angel Sergeant
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As a comment on the list. 1 terminator squad in the OIF isn't really that bad actually or what do you guys think? Cyclone missile launcher with the OIF double shooting rule makes a 25 upgrade a one turn "4x ML devastator squad". Ok, no +1 BS for one shot, but you get the point. I've done some mathhammering with 10man termie squad and found 8 shot rending assault cannon and 4 shot cyclone missile launcher a menace when placed right on the battlefield. How often you get 4+ targets under the fragioso template so Assault cannon in the OIF almost delivers the same amount of pain when they arrive. Case sensitive whether you want a termie squad or a fragioso after the DS turn on the table
My monday thoughts.
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2016/09/27 17:48:00
Subject: [1850] - Blood Angels - Drop Assault
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Been Around the Block
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I would suggest just keeping the Thunder hammer on the captain. The new datasheet makes it expensive to swap for other weapons. Also, yes, cannot join captain to orbital terminators. Put him in with one of the Sternguard units. Use the points savings for locator beacons on the drop pods to help the orbital Terminators.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/09/27 17:49:31
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2016/09/27 20:02:47
Subject: [1850] - Blood Angels - Drop Assault
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Furious Fire Dragon
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Angels Blade Strike Force
Core - Archangels Demi-Company
- Terminator Captain - 135
- Furioso Dreadnought - 170
-- Drop Pod (Locator Beacon)
- Furioso Dreadnought - 170
-- Drop Pod (Locator Beacon)
- Sternguard Veteran Squad - 145
-- Drop Pod
- Sternguard Veteran Squad - 145
-- Drop Pod
- Sternguard Veteran Squad - 145
-- Drop Pod
- Sternguard Veteran Squad - 145
-- Drop Pod
- Sternguard Veteran Squad - 145
-- Drop Pod
Auxiliary - Archangels Orbital Intervention Force
- Terminator Assault Squad - 215
-- 2x Thunder Hammer and Storm Shield, Sergeant (Thunder Hammer and Storm Shield)
- Terminator Assault Squad - 215
-- 2x Thunder Hammer and Storm Shield, Sergeant (Thunder Hammer and Storm Shield)
- Terminator Assault Squad - 215
-- 2x Thunder Hammer and Storm Shield, Sergeant (Thunder Hammer and Storm Shield)
This leaves me with 5 points. Any more suggestions? The captain drops with some sternguard and then joins the termies the turn they arrive. Can they still charge?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/09/27 20:03:33
For Khaela Mensha Khaine
For the Emperor and Sanguinius!
DS:90+S++G+++MB--IPw40k15#+D+A+/mWD-R+T(T)DM+ |
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2016/09/27 20:13:31
Subject: [1850] - Blood Angels - Drop Assault
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Rampaging Furioso Blood Angel Dreadnought
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I feel like 3 locator beacons is a must... they likely won't bother to kill your drop pods on turn 1 but you never know exactly where you want to land with those terminators and enemy units and/or terrain can make it difficult to be precise.
I've been running a similar style list using the old Archangels strike force and I do find it hard sometimes to utilize the locator-beacons exactly as planned.
With the OIF I also find the double-tapping shooty terminators just too tempting. I'm gonna do 1 th&SS, 1 shooty, and 1 LC unit that will (ideally) hide behind the other 2 and assault (full buffs) on following turn, but if it looks like they'll get counter charged I'll just assault.
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2016/09/27 20:17:45
Subject: Re:[1850] - Blood Angels - Drop Assault
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Furious Fire Dragon
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I didn't have enough points for any more beacons
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For Khaela Mensha Khaine
For the Emperor and Sanguinius!
DS:90+S++G+++MB--IPw40k15#+D+A+/mWD-R+T(T)DM+ |
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2016/09/27 22:01:14
Subject: [1850] - Blood Angels - Drop Assault
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Been Around the Block
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The captain joining after the terms drop should be a valid charge. Captain didnt come from reserves T2 and the terms have permission via formation rules.
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