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Codex: Adepta Sororitas, what do you want to see in it ? Be specific.

Anyone who brings up it's release being a hoax, or how Chaos Marines deserve a codex more, will be burned for heresy.

HQ
Saint Celestine: Currently $20, likely to get a new Clampack figure for $35
Uriah Jacobus: I don't know if he'll make it to the new codex. I feel he made it into the digital dex because of his existing model.
Canoness: Pretty much an auto include in a new codex, and a likely Clampack Figure
Ecclesiarchy Battle Conclave: Arco Flaggelants, Death Cult Assassin, and Crusader. I don't know how likely they are to make it in the new codex. They'd be too expensive as clam packs, and not a likely candidate for a plastic box set.
Ministorum Priest: I never realy got why theses robed dudes ran around with power armored sister, especially when the role could have been filled with a powered army female model with the same special rules.
Sororitas Command Squad : Celestines with a couple special bits for the Hospitaller and Dialogus

TROOPS
Battle Sister Squad: A plastic 10 model squad that covers BSS and Celestines seems like a no brainer
Fraternis Militia: Why not ? Chaos have their cultists, Orks have grots, GSC has neophytes. Sororitas could use some cheap objective holding bodies.

ELITES
Repentia Squad: There is literally nothing elite about them. At least give them uncany relfexes, like the death cult assassin. Be prepared for additional special rules that make them suck less and a 5 model $40 box set.
Celestian Squad: So you can jam more sisters into a CADD, with slightly better stats. Hoping they are in a $40 10 model box set that pulls double duty with they battle sisters squad.

FAST ATTACK
Serephim: As long as they are in plastic and not prone to falling over we'll be good. I expect them to have some formation that allows them to turn 1 DS and assault.
Dominion Squad: Really hoping for a Dominion/Retributor 5 model box with 4 of each special/heavy choice.
Flyer: They could recycle the Death Watch one, and include the obligitory Adepta Sororitas Upgrade Sprue

HEAVY SUPPORT
Exorcist: too cool not to make again
Penitent Engine: Make them MC's and 3 to box on 50mm bases
Retributor Squad: Really hoping for a Dominion/Retributor 5 model box with 4 of each special/heavy choice.

As far as new units go, I think that differentiating Celestians, Dominions, and Battle Sisters beyond just different weapon options would make them each feel a little more special.

Beyond that though, I feel the SoB don't really need new models so much as GW needs to explicitly lay-out their theme and give them a new "gimmick".

I mean faith as a mechanic was kinda gutted down to the point of just being Ecclesiarchy flavored Canticles/Marine Doctrines/etc rather than a core defining mechanic of the army. The Sisters also had nearly all of their unique wargear handed off to C:SM to the point that they are almost just Salamanders who can take flamer/melta in every slot.

They really need new mechanics and wargear to make them shine more than anything.


Off Topic: Shouldn't this be more in 40k General?

Jack Flask wrote:
Off Topic: Shouldn't this be more in 40k General?

I'll ask a mod to move it. I read the header quick and read "40K does not belong here" as "40 does belong here"

Tell ya what, I wouldn't kick a plastic Penitent Engine out of bed, that's for sure. Only thing stopping me from getting that model right now is that it's not plastic.

 adamsouza wrote:
Battle Sister Squad: A plastic 10 model squad that covers BSS and Celestines seems like a no brainer

I'm pretty sure we'll get that, but it'll be a 5-man box. It'll still cost as much as a 10-man box though.

Doesn't matter what you want, you'll get a super-undercosted vehicle with MC rules that you'd be forced to buy in droves (for 89.90 each) to be somewhat on par with others. That's just how it works.

 koooaei wrote:
Doesn't matter what you want, you'll get a super-undercosted vehicle with MC rules that you'd be forced to buy in droves (for 89.90 each) to be somewhat on par with others. That's just how it works.

Like GSC got?

More like grey knights.

As much as I want to believe this heralds Sisters coming, I won't be celebrating until the codex is literally in my hands. Not a moment before then.

That said, the things I'd like most are not much. I don't believe that Sisters need a great deal more of new models or unit types. What we do need are more options, namely for Canonesses (jump pack, please!) and Celestians.

Plastic repressor kit please...
This is kind of a no brainer since FW stopped making them.

tneva82 wrote:

 koooaei wrote:
Doesn't matter what you want, you'll get a super-undercosted vehicle with MC rules that you'd be forced to buy in droves (for 89.90 each) to be somewhat on par with others. That's just how it works.

Like GSC got?

Reported for using logic.

A codex specific fortification. That and a flyer. And a centurion/terminator equivalent.

Would a generic saint be too much to ask for?

Pr3Mu5 wrote:
Plastic repressor kit please...
This is kind of a no brainer since FW stopped making them.

If you check the forgeworld thread, I believe they've come back into production


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 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 adamsouza wrote:
Battle Sister Squad: A plastic 10 model squad that covers BSS and Celestines seems like a no brainer

I'm pretty sure we'll get that, but it'll be a 5-man box. It'll still cost as much as a 10-man box though.

After seeing the GSC Acolyte/Metamorph box, I had the same thought. Since they are a power armored, I'm hoping they'll treat them like tactical marines.

RET CON All Sisters of Battle stuff and then watch the feminists lose their minds for a bit, then bring them back as an all male army and call it sissies of battle. Really just Ruin the game for all Social justice warriors

IN all seriousness I would just love to see more plastic models and updated rules, this is actually a good army that needs some TLC.

Plastic Sisters.... This is just another joke thread, right

 master of ordinance wrote:
Plastic Sisters.... This is just another joke thread, right

Adam Souza wrote:Anyone who brings up it's release being a hoax, or how Chaos Marines deserve a codex more, will be burned for heresy.

Master of Ordinance

 adamsouza wrote:

Anyone who brings up it's release being a hoax, or how Chaos Marines deserve a codex more, will be burned for heresy.

CSM will get it's 'dex as always with the new edition,

A few things I am hopeing they do is
1) Move Penitent Engines to Elites, SM dreadnoughts are, why are ours heavy support and....
2) Make Penitent Engines MC. If the GK Dreadknight MC, then they should be too.
3) Allow Celestians to equip like Vets. Can take 2-3 special and every one else can buy combis OR 2-3 power and everyone else CCW/BP. Right now they are just sisters with +1A and Ld, and a differnt AoF. That's not enough IMO to set them apart as elites. No reason to take them over a regualr squad.

Systemic roll-back to Acts of Faith. Bring back the army-wide pool of different Acts, not the mini-feats in the current book. It made the army feel unique and flexible on the tabletop in a way that's been slowly getting shaved away since.

Another tweak for Celestians that might be interesting is to give them all storm bolters, bolt pistols and chainswords. They're not that impressive in CC: even with Furious Charge and A2, they're still not as good as, say, Salamander Sternguard in CC (Sternies are I4 and have ATSKNF). But with storm bolters, they could fire a full volley of bolter fire, probably plus meltas/flamers, and then charge.

I'd second the option to swap the storm bolters for combis, too.

I want a Confessor to be a Customizable Character
Celestine to get EW (and keep her self rez)
Custom Living Saint??? (Would Be Cool)
Some new Relics
New Plastic Pentient Engines (and made into MCs)
Immolator to return
Exorcist to get a Plastic Remake
Jacobus to remain AWESOME (and get a new model)

To list a few -

Make Saint Celestine/Generic Living Saint like the one from Soulstorm. Greater Daemon of the Emperor. I want her to look like she actually could cut the head of a Daemon Prince instead of being stepped on. Especially with the Daemon Primarches coming the current model is extremely underwhelming considering shes pretty much an avatar of the Emperor.

Have Retributors or a new unit in either a mech or heavily armoured suit like a centurion. In fact I would really like to see Dominion, Celestian and Retributors all made distinct from just being veteran sister or sisters with MOAR guns.

Have legionary type squads where EVERY sister can take a flamer, storm bolter or meltagun.

Close combat seraphim with spears or swords. Or better still. Have Seraphim weapons be in-built into their gauntlets so they can still use close combat weapons.

Give Celestians either access to more powerful guns or access to close combat weapons. Swords, spears, flamer gauntlets, shields.

Keep the current armor design. Don't degrade their armor to 4+. Just no.

Some sort of insane armywide faith mechanic where the army gets better as it loses units. On a level that I dunno, final turn they get a normal save AND their invulnerable.

Penitent engines and repentia to be brought closer to the Sisters of Battle aesthetic and away from the creepy steampunk Witch Hunters stuff. Even a fallen angel is still an angel.

Some sort of heavier battle mech that the sisters use. More shooty instead of the penitent engine.

Some sort of elite artificer armored unit where they are sort of demi living saints.

Bigger version of the Immolator with more armor and carrying capacity.



....Bikes. As well as the option for a Canoness to take said bike or a jump pack.


In fairness I think the last rumor we had implied that it was going to be relatively basic. A few clampack characters and plastics for all the basic stuff. Although there was supposed to be a unit on big bases.

Also, I do think sadly that they are going to be £25 for 5 models. I was convinced they would never do that. But, after the Genestealer Hybrids I think they will make them a similar "mid price" multi kit unit with lots of weapon options; which also comes in squads of 20 and is dirt cheap points wise. This would be a real shame and I hope they literally look like they've stepped out of the artwork to justify that price tag.

 AnomanderRake wrote:
Systemic roll-back to Acts of Faith. Bring back the army-wide pool of different Acts, not the mini-feats in the current book. It made the army feel unique and flexible on the tabletop in a way that's been slowly getting shaved away since.

I full agree. Make it the D6 per turn. Have a Canoness add D6 so would make it her worth taking over the named. Maybe bring back the Palatine (minor canoness from 3rd Ed) that adds D3.

Yeah I'd definetly like to see a return to army wide acts of faith as opposed to one use special rules for each unit.

 Totalwar1402 wrote:
To list a few -

Make Saint Celestine/Generic Living Saint like the one from Soulstorm. Greater Daemon of the Emperor. I want her to look like she actually could cut the head of a Daemon Prince instead of being stepped on. Especially with the Daemon Primarches coming the current model is extremely underwhelming considering shes pretty much an avatar of the Emperor.
I think she looks fine size wise, but she does need wither EW or can always get back up

Have Retributors or a new unit in either a mech or heavily armoured suit like a centurion. In fact I would really like to see Dominion, Celestian and Retributors all made distinct from just being veteran sister or sisters with MOAR guns.
No to mechs IMO, too many right now, no need for every faction to have them

Have legionary type squads where EVERY sister can take a flamer, storm bolter or meltagun.
Could do this with Celestians, but everyone with a special is just an uber Dominon squad, and we already got them

Close combat seraphim with spears or swords. Or better still. Have Seraphim weapons be in-built into their gauntlets so they can still use close combat weapons.
Not a bad idea, but seraphin have always been dual BP, they were the original gunslingers AFAIK back to 3rd WitchHunters

Give Celestians either access to more powerful guns or access to close combat weapons. Swords, spears, flamer gauntlets, shields.
I agree that they need something to make them worth wanting. Let everyone take a power or special like SM veterans

Keep the current armor design. Don't degrade their armor to 4+. Just no.
ABSOLUTLY ESSENTIAL that they keep their power armor 3+ and SoF 6+

Some sort of heavier battle mech that the sisters use. More shooty instead of the penitent engine.
A shooting PE would not be too bad. Maybe just give the PE the option to upgrade their HF to HB or MM?

....Bikes. As well as the option for a Canoness to take said bike or a jump pack..

C'mon guys. I've only been playing for about 4 years now, and I think there's been a 'credible' plastic sisters rumor like 6 times in that period. Like curran12, I'll believe that plastic sisters are inbound when they are on store shelves, and not a moment before.

Because basing your expectations on a one-line joke (a pretty funny one, at that) in a 2 minute joke video is just setting yourselves up for failure.

Our friendly librarian from DoW, Isador, said it best: "Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment."

TBH I am not sure if Saint Celestine will be getting a new model. GW has generally speaking been avoiding clam packs for individual special characters. Kharn was a huge exception to the rule of the past few years and he wasn't really presented as a normal clampack model. They seem to generally prefer either to not do them, as was the case for Deathwatch and Cultists; or find excuses to make them bigger kits like Santa.

I mean the last rumor was for three clampacks. So at a guess...

Canoness

Priest

Hospitaller

Which would imply shes either being dropped, going to get released later on, or possibly will keep her old model. A good comparison would be Vect. He was dropped because he didn't have a current model that fit the new design and will also probably get released later at some point.

I think if they made her just a pinch bigger than Alarielle (less beetle) and added loads of energy stuff swirling around her that would probably be enough. She wouldn't have to be quite as a big as in Soulstorm.


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 Kap'n Krump wrote:
C'mon guys. I've only been playing for about 4 years now, and I think there's been a 'credible' plastic sisters rumor like 6 times in that period. Like curran12, I'll believe that plastic sisters are inbound when they are on store shelves, and not a moment before.

Because basing your expectations on a one-line joke (a pretty funny one, at that) in a 2 minute joke video is just setting yourselves up for failure.

Our friendly librarian from DoW, Isador, said it best: "Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment."

Atia seems to think they are getting released and I can't recall her ever being wrong before; so...

It might be a joke but the purpose seems to have been to build hype and end on a shock reveal. That seems too deliberate to be a joke.

 adamsouza wrote:

 master of ordinance wrote:
Plastic Sisters.... This is just another joke thread, right

Adam Souza wrote:Anyone who brings up it's release being a hoax, or how Chaos Marines deserve a codex more, will be burned for heresy.

Master of Ordinance

NOOOOOOOOOO, please forgive me, but I cannot believe it, nay, I will not let myself. It is too good to be true!

I would guess they will do an army wide AOF system like Power From Pain - Emperor protect us from a random chart though.......

A Nagash / AOS style giant Living Saint Model would be something I would love - I quite like her being relatively small but loads of bits and pieces floating around her would be ace. We already have Cherubs holding her wings.....

A Close Combat with blades and one shot flamers would be fun

Artificer armour option for Canoness + auto Rosarius

A scenery piece / Superheavy would be awesome if unlikely as the moving fortress shrine models pictured before and mentioned again in Shield of Baal!

Einachiel wrote:

 adamsouza wrote:

Anyone who brings up it's release being a hoax, or how Chaos Marines deserve a codex more, will be burned for heresy.

CSM will get it's 'dex as always with the new edition,

They don't get codex in every edition and they don't get them in any specific time frame(early or late) so hard to predict there. Appropriately release schedule of chaos codex is very much unpredictable.

Yeah Sisters aren't coming, and I'll continue to refuse to believe they're coming until I hold the new miniatures and codex in my hands.

Of course, they might just give us yet another bland boring reprint instead of a real codex. THAT I can believe.