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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot






Baal

Hello everyone!

I am going to start up a Necron army and came up with this list Can you guys take a look and let me know what is wrong or could be better?

I like the combo of the destroyer cult and judicator battalion. BS 5 with Preferred Enemy on the destroyers is nasty!

Should my Lord be on a Barge? Do either of the Lords really need Res Orbs?

Help a n00b out!

+++ Necrons (2237pts) +++

++ Necrons: Codex (2015) (Nec Decurion Detachment) (2237pts) ++

+ Core (998pts) +

Reclamation Legion (998pts)
····Catacomb Command Barge [Tesla Cannon]
········Overlord [Phase Shifter , Phylactery , Resurrection Orb , Staff of Light]
····Immortals [Night Scythe]
········5x Immortal [5x Gauss Blaster]
····Tomb Blades
········Tomb Blade [Shadowloom, Shield Vanes, Twin-linked Gauss Blaster]
········Tomb Blade [Shadowloom, Shield Vanes, Twin-linked Gauss Blaster]
········Tomb Blade [Shadowloom, Shield Vanes, Twin-linked Gauss Blaster]
····Warriors [10x Necron Warrior, Night Scythe]
····Warriors [10x Necron Warrior, Night Scythe]

+ Auxiliary (1239pts) +

Canoptek Harvest (249pts)
····Canoptek Scarabs [3x Canoptek Scarab]
····Canoptek Spyder [Twin-Linked Particle Beamer ]
····Canoptek Wraiths
········Canoptek Wraith [Whip Coils]
········Canoptek Wraith [Whip Coils]
········Canoptek Wraith [Whip Coils]

Destroyer Cult (585pts)
····Destroyer Lord [Phase Shifter, Phylactery, Resurrection Orb, Warscythe]
····Destroyers [2x Destroyer, Heavy Destroyer]
····Destroyers [2x Destroyer, Heavy Destroyer]
····Destroyers [2x Destroyer, Heavy Destroyer]

Judicator Battalion (405pts)
····Triarch Praetorians
········5x Triarch Praetorian[5x Rod of Covenant]
····Triarch Praetorians
········5x Triarch Praetorian[5x Rod of Covenant]
····Triarch Stalkers
········Triarch Stalker [Heat Ray]


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Youve chosen some of the most popular Necron formations for your Auxillary so thats a good start.

CCB is fun but can be meh. I would suggest the Warscythe over the staff of light on any Overlord.

If you are gonna run Night Scythes take them as the dedicated transports for your Praetorians. You might get flak from people about them not being able to start the game in them, just a warning. I usually start them on the board either way. But the point is if the Night Scythe is a dedicated transport for the Praetorians the Night Scythe can also benefit from the re-roll to wound special ability.

As for the Canoptek Harvest, don't put the gun on the Spyder. The SPyder wants to hide as much as possible because it is target priority number one in any game ever so you dont even wanna pop its head out to shoot if possible.

I can't speak from experience on the DCult cause I have never been able to field one, but the major debate is whether or not to run HD's as a single unit or as an upgrade to the units you have to take. The argument is that the two different destroyers have different preffered targets.

And as for the Judicator Battalion (my favorite formation) you need one more Stalker. One more Stalker added to the squadron usually prevents the turn one Melta pod from taking first blood and neutering the formation. Also refer to what I said about the Night Scythes.

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Baal

Thanks Dragoon65!

What about the Res Orbs? Are those needed with the Decurion or are they redundant?


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 Falco wrote:
Thanks Dragoon65!

What about the Res Orbs? Are those needed with the Decurion or are they redundant?


Kind of redundant. Usually are only used with Lychstars that teleport in and need to survive an army load of gak turn one.

Are you planning on playing games with all these points or just aiming for these models?

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Baal

 Dragoon65 wrote:
 Falco wrote:
Thanks Dragoon65!

What about the Res Orbs? Are those needed with the Decurion or are they redundant?


Kind of redundant. Usually are only used with Lychstars that teleport in and need to survive an army load of gak turn one.


Great! Kinda thought so, but wasnt sure. I was taking them mainly for the ability to re-roll failed reanimation.


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Are you planning on playing at that point level or just building that many models?

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Baal

 Dragoon65 wrote:
Are you planning on playing at that point level or just building that many models?


Right now, its just building up to that point level. I will probably drop models to play lower point levels.


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 Falco wrote:
 Dragoon65 wrote:
Are you planning on playing at that point level or just building that many models?


Right now, its just building up to that point level. I will probably drop models to play lower point levels.


Yeah I was just gonna say that if you want to play at lower point levels you should just take maybe two of those formations and just add more than the minimum model count. Beef them up a bit.

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I don't like to invest in a orb unless A) I have maxed out the unit (or close) or B) I'm desperate for them to stay on the board.

Tomb Blades with the small blast weapons are awesome. Add them ignore cover option and the ennemy bikes will fear them a lot.

Sometimes it's best to have Ghost Arks (armor 13 with Quantum Shield) for your warriors. Night Scythes are nice but not always the best choice: all our vehicles are skimmers so they can be targeted by anti air weapons. That mean that your opponent will almost always field some specialised and nasty AA units and the Night Scythes only have armor 11..

I also agree that the wraiths are better without any range weapons.

Phylactery is so-so. You might want to consider using veil of darkness instead of night scythes.

For the rest your list seems good.
   
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Baal

Sluggfest wrote:
I don't like to invest in a orb unless A) I have maxed out the unit (or close) or B) I'm desperate for them to stay on the board.

Tomb Blades with the small blast weapons are awesome. Add them ignore cover option and the ennemy bikes will fear them a lot.

Sometimes it's best to have Ghost Arks (armor 13 with Quantum Shield) for your warriors. Night Scythes are nice but not always the best choice: all our vehicles are skimmers so they can be targeted by anti air weapons. That mean that your opponent will almost always field some specialised and nasty AA units and the Night Scythes only have armor 11..

I also agree that the wraiths are better without any range weapons.

Phylactery is so-so. You might want to consider using veil of darkness instead of night scythes.

For the rest your list seems good.


The only reason I am hesitant to give the Tomb Blades the blast template weapon is because they can jink and I dont want to be able to not shoot with them.


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You seem to have all of the variations of the really good formations.
There are a few things that I would add to that collection:
Vargard Oberyon, Orikan the Diviner, and 2 boxes of Lychguard (Lychstar)
Imoteckh the Storm Lord and 30 Flayed Ones (converted from warriors, mostly... the finecast ones suck).

As to jinking tomblades... don't. More often than not, your T5, 3+ and 4+ RP will save you when a Cover Save will not.

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Welcome to Crons! Your starting force looks great and should be pretty competitive with just about any army. As you grow your force or want to be more competitive (Going to GTs, or are facing top tier armies like gladius or scat bike spam or riptide spam) here are a few suggestions:

Mixing weapons is something that is not super recommended unless the weapons have very similar profiles. For instance with the destroyers having heavy adn normal, if you use the heavy destroyer to fire at a vehicle, then the normal destroyers are less effective because they are stuck shooting at the vehicle as well. I tend to split the heavies off into their own unit, so everyone can play to their strengths.

In a harvest I tend not to get the twin linked particle beamer for the spyder since he is the fat kid trying to keep up with olympic sprinters, and thus will spends most of his turns in CC or running to keep up with the wraiths.

I love my CCB, but I wouldn't use it in a super competitive list, because it has a few issues, being your only vehicle it will draw a lot of anti-vehicle fire, which you can mitigate somewhat with the targeting shenanigans, but when the melta starts coming out your not left with great choices. It also turns into tissue paper in CC as the enemy gets to choose where they allocate their hits.

Shadowloom vs nebuloscope is kind of an open question, the only time there is a clear cut winner is against tau, and then it's nebuloscope, because they will ignore your cover save and have pathfinders with a 2+ cover save and a 4+ armor save. My meta has a lot of Tau, so in most cases I run two units of tomb blades with nebuloscope because there is nothing like watching 10 marker lights vanish in a single turn with no saves.

Like others have said some lychguard would be a good future purchase, and maybe a nightscythe, because like the spanish inquisition, no one really expects flyers these days because death from the skies killed them dead.

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Baal

So I revamped the list a bit after all the suggestions.

I removed the CCB and added 2 more bikes and gave them all the ignores cover and blast set up.

I also added a second Triarch.

As for the DCult, I think i will drop the Heavy Destroyers and save some points there.


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