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Hello, I am getting back into WH after a 5 or 6 year hiatus and have always played Space Wolves. I am trying to figure out what Codex I am supposed to buy. I see there is a 7th edition codex released in 2014 but there is also a War Zone Fenris: Curse Of The Wulfen codex which is newer. Does the Curse Of The Wulfen codex replace the one released in 2014 or is it just a supplement which has additional / alternate rules? I have never played any of the expansion / supplement stuff before so I don't really know how that works.

Any info would be appreciated, thanks!
   
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Italy

Yes it replace it, in the new one there are the same rules included in the previous codex but there is a new unit, the wulfen, and a lot of formations. The Curse of the wulfen codex was released to give SW a decurion, but it's the same codex. Only the background articles are different, go for the newest codex.

 
   
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Awesome, thanks for the info!
   
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It doesn't replace anything.
7th edition Space Wolves codex is still the core of your Space Wolves, Curse of the Wulfen is a supplement like Champions of Fenris, it adds to the codex.

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 Dakka Wolf wrote:
It doesn't replace anything.
7th edition Space Wolves codex is still the core of your Space Wolves, Curse of the Wulfen is a supplement like Champions of Fenris, it adds to the codex.


Does Wulfen contain all the same information as the core book though? As in is there a reason for the OP to pick up both, or can he safely just pick up Wulfen? Also, does Wulfen contain all the formations from Champions of Fenris?

Also, the GW FAQ stated that you can choose between the Wulfen iron priest rules or the ones from the main codex (or was it the one from Champions?), so there's that small reason to get both I guess.


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Wyldhunt wrote:
 Dakka Wolf wrote:
It doesn't replace anything.
7th edition Space Wolves codex is still the core of your Space Wolves, Curse of the Wulfen is a supplement like Champions of Fenris, it adds to the codex.


Does Wulfen contain all the same information as the core book though? As in is there a reason for the OP to pick up both, or can he safely just pick up Wulfen? Also, does Wulfen contain all the formations from Champions of Fenris?

Also, the GW FAQ stated that you can choose between the Wulfen iron priest rules or the ones from the main codex (or was it the one from Champions?), so there's that small reason to get both I guess.


Yep, iron priest is the only difference in core units between the books (the one in original 2014 codex is better). Otherwise wulfen edition has everything you need to play and technically this is a new codex, that do not requires that one from 2014. Besides there is mandatory unit inside, so you have to have it


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Champions of Fenris is separate supplement.

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Wyldhunt wrote:
 Dakka Wolf wrote:
It doesn't replace anything.
7th edition Space Wolves codex is still the core of your Space Wolves, Curse of the Wulfen is a supplement like Champions of Fenris, it adds to the codex.


Does Wulfen contain all the same information as the core book though? As in is there a reason for the OP to pick up both, or can he safely just pick up Wulfen? Also, does Wulfen contain all the formations from Champions of Fenris?

Also, the GW FAQ stated that you can choose between the Wulfen iron priest rules or the ones from the main codex (or was it the one from Champions?), so there's that small reason to get both I guess.


The only information it shares with the 7th codex is Ulrik the Slayer - to showcase his new model.
He won't get unit info and point costs for core units out of Curse of the Wulfen he'll get info on Krom, the HQ Iron Priest and Wulfen; a new Force org chart and the new formations.
He will still need the 7th edition Codex.

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Because 7th edition is the edition of rules bloat for the sake of rules bloat, to get a full set of Space wolves rules, you'll need to buy like 6 books.

However, I recommend you buy or.. a... find... this one:
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Codex-Space-Wolves-Wulfen-Edition-EPUB

Codex: Space Wolves; Wulfen Edition.

It has a large majority of the space wolves rules, and everything it is missing you can probably find via google without much problem.

I do not recommend buying the printed Space Wolf codex right now. It only has about 40% of the current space wolf rules in it, and there is a new edition inbound that is likely to invalidate all codexes. If you are a purist and need printed books, and don't want to print out important pages into a 3-ring binder, then you should buy Both Codex: Space Wolves, and the Curse of the Wulfen Supplement, but you can wait on the supplement until you've played a few games 1st.
   
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Italy

 Dakka Wolf wrote:
It doesn't replace anything.
7th edition Space Wolves codex is still the core of your Space Wolves, Curse of the Wulfen is a supplement like Champions of Fenris, it adds to the codex.

In curse of the wulfen are included all the SW rules, it actually replaces the older codex.


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Wyldhunt wrote:
 Dakka Wolf wrote:
It doesn't replace anything.
7th edition Space Wolves codex is still the core of your Space Wolves, Curse of the Wulfen is a supplement like Champions of Fenris, it adds to the codex.


Does Wulfen contain all the same information as the core book though? As in is there a reason for the OP to pick up both, or can he safely just pick up Wulfen? Also, does Wulfen contain all the formations from Champions of Fenris?

Also, the GW FAQ stated that you can choose between the Wulfen iron priest rules or the ones from the main codex (or was it the one from Champions?), so there's that small reason to get both I guess.

In curse of the wulfen all units and wargear are described like in the previous codex, plus there's a new unit and the formations. Champions of fenris stuff in not included, that is a the real SW supplement, curse of the wulfen is the SW codex revisited.

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 Blackie wrote:
 Dakka Wolf wrote:
It doesn't replace anything.
7th edition Space Wolves codex is still the core of your Space Wolves, Curse of the Wulfen is a supplement like Champions of Fenris, it adds to the codex.

In curse of the wulfen are included all the SW rules, it actually replaces the older codex.


No it doesn't and no they aren't. That new Wulfen edition codex does, Curse of the Wulfen is a supplement, barely more than a magazine there's been FAQs explaining that the Curse of the Wulfen is to be used alongside the Space Wolves Codex.

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Italy

You're right, i was confused. I considered the wulfen edition codex with curse of the wulfen. In the revisited version of the SW codex wulfen and formations are included, so what are the different things in curse of the wulfen that are not included in the codex?

 
   
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Just be wary, that 8th edition is rumoured to be around the corner. One person says it could come in April. I am thinking more of June. Some say September.

Thing is, 8th may or may not replace everything. We could get the Age of Sigmar treatment in that the rules are free and the unit stats are free in things called data slates on GW website. Then again, we can just have what we have all along and nothing really changes and we will be in 3.5 edition instead of 3.4 edition (7th edition would be 3.4 and 8th edition is really 3.5).

So unless you are going to play many games, or only want the fluff be careful on how much you spend on books because there are changes coming. How big or how little, time will tell.

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Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?

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 Blackie wrote:
You're right, i was confused. I considered the wulfen edition codex with curse of the wulfen. In the revisited version of the SW codex wulfen and formations are included, so what are the different things in curse of the wulfen that are not included in the codex?


I've never read the new one.
I only just found out about the Wulfen Edition Codex when tag8833 put the link up but judging from the blurb on the page I'd hazard the guess the Wulfen Codex is missing information from the Champions of Fenris Supplement rather than from the original Space Wolves Codex or Curse Supplement.

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Italy

I have both the space wolves codex 7ed and the revisited version with wulfen and formation, i also have Champions of Fenris. The second one has half the pages but every unit, equipment, rule is included. The previous edition is useless now if you only consider the rules, as the new one has many more options and is not missing something from the older version. Every stuff described in Champions of Fenris, is of course missing in the space wolves codex wulfen edition.

 
   
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 Blackie wrote:
I have both the space wolves codex 7ed and the revisited version with wulfen and formation, i also have Champions of Fenris. The second one has half the pages but every unit, equipment, rule is included. The previous edition is useless now if you only consider the rules, as the new one has many more options and is not missing something from the older version. Every stuff described in Champions of Fenris, is of course missing in the space wolves codex wulfen edition.


You know, until Tag put that link up I seriously thought you were trolling the newbie - sorry about that.

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Italy

No problem, that was mainly my fault beacause i thought that curse of the wulfen was the name of the revisited space wolves codex.

 
   
 
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