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Use the cheap sheet metal meant for rain gutters as the base of your movement tray and cheap magentic sheet/strips on the base of your models.

How are you making movement trays out of plaster ? I've seen a lot of methods for making movement trays for Warhammer Fantasy, but I don't think I've heard of anyone using plaster before.

I may be misusing a term. It's whatever they sell at hobby lobby, lightweight hydrocal or whatever, seems a lot like a caulk or plaster type of thing, powdery mix it with water and slop it around. Seems similar to the plaster cloth so that's what I've been calling it. I just took a couple of thin pieces of cardboard and put a little bit of texture on them with hot glue, covered that with the plaster cloth, then smoothed that over with the hydrocal. So the base isn't so much made of the material as it is covered in it.

Ah I see, I see.

Having done a lot of casting over the years, casting a movement tray in a Hydrocoral based plaster didn't sound out of the question to me.

The bases I'm using for my Necron Scarab Farm are all cast in dental plaster. It has something ridiculous like a 10,000 PSI strength when hardened and was like $30 for 20lbs on Ebay, shipping included.

Actually, it would probably make for casting decent movement trays, if I glued some felt, or craft foam, to the bottom. Just throwing ideas at the wall to see what sticks, since I'm probably going to have to come up with a method for making ovement trays for KoW,

Huh yeah I should look into some of that stuff then. The hydrocal at hobby lobby isn't very economical even with the coupon. I think you can get this awesome plaster cloth stuff as intended for use in making casts, in a much larger and bulk discounted size, but I haven't looked into calling any hospitals or medial suppliers just yet, the one sheet is lasting me pretty well.

Once my little bases are done I'm gonna paint and flock/grass/rock/bush them and paint anything that stuff doesn't cover. They'll be in the blog shortly, they're small and easy to work on in short bursts. I'll probably even throw some skaven on there for fun.

The cardboard got warped a little bit from the plaster cloth, bowed a little, but honestly it just makes the bases look a little more organic to me.

I look forward to seeing your movement trays then.

As soon as I figure out what I'm going to do I'll update here as well.

Speaking of which... I have a tons of thin plastic sheeting I was saving that turned out to be to thin for vacuum forming, and lots of GW sprue material. Both are easy to cut and respong well to model glue. I'll have to tray that tonight when I get home.

Remember now that we're talking about me here Self-depreciating humor aside, I think they'll be serviceable but mostly that.

Are you talking about thin 'plasticard' with GW sprues for the sides? It works pretty well though depending on what you surface it with you may see some warping, the plastic isn't stout enough to keep from being bent when the stuff on top cures. Well, it was like that for my plaster tray. If you just wanna make a bare minimum tray instead of buying the plastic ones off the rack.. then that system will probably work out very well.

 GrimDork wrote:
Are you talking about thin 'plasticard' with GW sprues for the sides?

Yes.

Ended up with 100+ sheets of 1mm styrene sheet 5-6" square scrap material from work. Even if I had to glue 2 sheets together to make them sturdy enough, I have enough to spare.

Been collecting movement trays from over the years playing Warhammer Fantasy, but they don't all match. Every time I started a new army I bought or made new trays to go with it and now have a hodge podge collection of mismatched trays.

Having matching trays for an entire army just looks better, so I'm back to square one with KoW.

Ahh yeah. If you're good at cutting the corners to fit together (or you can just use putty to fill in the gaps!) you should be able to crank out some pretty standardized trays.

I have a kooky idea for a making a trim piece that is nothing but a line of skulls, and then casting as many as I need for the trim on all the movement trays. It would be super theme appropriate for undead, or any Evil army I guess.

That... could well be awesome A similar thing could be done with fire for an abyssal themed army

NOTE TO SELF: Learn to sculpt fire before Abyssal Army is released

If you manage it post up a how-to, I might be interested myself

 GrimDork wrote:
If you manage it post up a how-to, I might be interested myself

We could take the cheap and easy way out and just use a low temp hot glue gun to make "fire". They would all be unique that way and could skip the whole messy mosld making and casting steps.

I do like to work with the hot glue gun occasionally.. I may have to look up a tutorial.

Black Friday Sales start and I do what I always end up doing, buying crap for myself.


There is a Mantic Skeleton in there for scale.
These Egyptian Undead are from the doomed Arcane Legions line. Arcane Legions could have been great, but the sculpting is wildly inconsistant, and the figures are close to a 25mm true scale. The game bombed, and packs sit on the shelf becuase the figures are ugly and not in scale with other existing games. For some strange reason, these undead are larger than their living comrades.
They are just a bit tiny for KoW, but they don't look too bad ranked up beside each other.
40 Figures in a pack, 15 are undead, 7 swordsman and 8 spearmen.
MiniatureMarket has them on sale for $4 a pack. I just bought 10 packs, giving me 77 undead spearmen, and 88 undead swordsmen.



Next up are Confrontation Wolfen. Big old werewolves on 40mm bases. 25 figures, 20+ unique sculpts. I already had a set, but I just picked up two more sets from Miniatures Market, for $25 a set.
I can field 3500+ points of Werewolves alone in KoW.

Hah. Awesome. I considered some of that stuff but I managed to resist it for another year. Pretty massive undead horde counting the skelies and wolves.

Noticing a lot of Witch Hazel bottles in there? Are you a tattooist by any chance?

Also, some really quality stuff in there. The scales look extremely well done and I really like the Stompa!

GrimDork wrote:Hah. Awesome. I considered some of that stuff but I managed to resist it for another year. Pretty massive undead horde counting the skelies and wolves.

I bought a pack of the Wolfen last week and it cost me $42 and I still thought it was a good deal. When I saw them for $25 I just jumped on it, without a second thought. Probably should have checked their point values first... In any case, they are pretty big, like demon prince big I'm thinking, so a few of them might get converted. At a $1 for large model conversion fodder, I'm not complaining.

The Arcane Legion figures are 40 for $4. Unfortunately most of the figures that weren't undead look like crap or are too tiny. Still, 15 Egyptian themed undead for $4 seemed like the cheapest alternative for some skeleton/revenent figures I'm going to find.

Upon reflection, I probably should have just spent $70 to buy another Undead Army set, instead of $40 on proxie figures.

Gregga wrote:Noticing a lot of Witch Hazel bottles in there? Are you a tattooist by any chance?

Also, some really quality stuff in there. The scales look extremely well done and I really like the Stompa!

Thanks !!

Not a tattooist. Just went through a phase of using witch hazel as a daily facial cleanser.

Ooh I bet the hot glue flames will look awesome!

No fire based movement trays.....yet.

Played 1500 points of Necrons last night against Adepta Sororitas for the first time. After regularly battling Space Marines, Chaos Marines, Dark Angels Death Wing, and Demons it felt refreshingly easy. Sisters have all the right weapons to crush scarabs, but only being WS3 and T3 allowed the scarabs to hit and wound more often than ever have previously.

I'm a competent player, and my list is solid, but I don't think it's terribly competitive. My greatest asset is that I have gotten into the heads of regular opponents and scarabs illicit irrational levels of fear of loathing at this point. The meta is shifing toward them including more flamers to cope with the scarabs.

That's fine by me. I'm going to give it another couple of weeks and then start fielding Imperial Knights for a bit.

Blood Angels codex is on the way, and I managed to pre-order 2 sets of Shield Of Baal Deathstorm, so lots of Blood Angels and Tyranids to play with.

Anyone have a hardcover Tyranid codex their not using ? I have spare Eldar and Tau Empire Codexes I could trade ?

Flamers will fix the scarabs, we'll show him!

*knight plopped down*


What... the fux... is that?


We're gonna need bigger flamers =/

Eggsellent

That set looks really solid, 125 for models including carnifex, neat brood lord, other useful bug units, and then terminators, jump troops, and didn't the BA get somethin.. yeah yeah a fugging badass dread too. Sounds like a good box, is it LE limited quantity?

They keep saying everywhere that it is extremely limited, but it being released on Black Friday and people having access to the mini rulebooks for months now, seems to hurt their sales. They are still in stock on the GW US, and UK, websites, or at least they were at noon time.

I haven't really bought Tyranids since 3rd Edition, so the Brood Lord and Bigger Carnifex will be new models to my collection. Needed the mini rulebook too. Had 2 copies of it, but they ended up going to my gaming buddies. Wanted the Plastic furioso as well. I have a half dozen Blood Angel Dreadnaughts, but they are all the old metal models.

I love dreads, combined with the mini rulebook I'd almost get the set for just those things. Well plus jumpack troops are cool.

But meh so much stuff for both armies I just can't see getting more

Nice deal though, lot of nerds will be happy to get that one for exmass.

I bought a nice badger Air brush and Compressor a decade ago, and they've been sitting in the box this whole time. Just really afraid to destroy while teaching myself how to use it. Just bought a air brush for $14 on Ebay that I'm definitely going to put to use. It costs about a 1/10th of what I payed for my other airbrush.

Yeah and it looks just like the one I"m using now

You will be solid for terrain and basecoats. Maybe some minor detailing on 28mm infantry, I'm not good enough to do that anyway regardless of brush.

I was mostly thinking about using it for terrain.

Looking forward to tryng out stenciling on Chapter Markings, and big numbers, on things

Yep once you get the hang of it, you should be able to do all of that.

What I'm thinking about scratch building next.

Another link using similar templates

Deadnought drop pod huh? DO IT

You've got the scratchbuilding skills to make it work, I'd make a wobbly crooked one

I made a wobbly crooked one and that was using a kit...

I know yours are gonna look fantastic though!