New Tau Codex - April 6'th [Pics, Video and Prices in OP]

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**Puscifer**

It looks like the Riptide can be posed in a multitude of ways.

I'm not sure if I like the new Farsight.

It's not that it's a bad pic, it's the pose.

Also, those flyers from that angle look hideous. Without those support struts they will look tons better.

**TBD**

hotsauceman1 wrote:
I wonder.
Will the Box of single crisis suits remain>

When GW can force you to immediately spend $75,- if you want them?

You probably know the answer already.

**Sidstyler**

Yeah, Farsight looks pretty good, pretty much the exact same sculpt we saw at a GD years ago.

Other than that...the better pics aren't helping much. Pathfinders look acceptable, even if the drones look kinda odd. The riptide has a very tiny head, looks silly as hell. Still don't like the flyers. I liked the aesthetic the FW flyer models have, these look less like flyers and more like the Tau ground vehicles with bigger wings. Looks like we got a better view of the broadside, too, and...I'm not liking it much. That pic makes it look like it has, again, a tiny head like the riptide, but with a giant dick gun. I don't know what else to call that, it looks like its entire center torso is just one big railgun.

**Ouze**

Those bombers have a silouhette that's kinda WW2ish, wing-shape-wise. Not really fitting with the line at all, at least what's been previously released - if those engines were moved just a little more out from the body, it would look an awful lot like a P-38. .

**Breotan**

Interesting drone thing there. New angle on the fliers didn't change my mind about them.

**Sidstyler**

Ouze wrote:
Those bombers have a silouhette that's kinda WW2ish, wing-shape-wise. Not really fitting with the line at all, at least what's been previously released.

Yeah, that's exactly what I thought. The top down view just reinforced my earlier belief that they don't fit in at all. Tau need to follow more modern aircraft designs.

Hell, maybe the next flyer we'll get with the 8th edition update will be a fething biplane with drones and burst cannons attached, lol.

Also, I just had a worry...I actually like the Farsight model, but is it plastic or Finecast? I'll be pleasantly surprised if it's plastic because that means I might actually buy something from this release after all. But then, I imagine he might be $50+ like the broadside because of his character status, so, maybe not even then. But if he's Finecast then no way.

So is anyone having success brainstorming ways to possibly "save" the plastic flyer? Is there any way to build something acceptable with this kit or is it just pure trash? Because I keep looking at the pic and trying, but the only part I can really see myself utilizing are the wings, and even that would take work.

**Kanluwen**

The more I look at the Pathfinders and their strange little drones, the more I think I get what they are. The middle one definitely plugs into the tank commander cupola on the Devilfish. It also looks like it might be a physical representation of the Pathfinder beacon, with a detachable bit and a burst cannon within.
The drone on the left seems to have some kind of optical projector or grenade launcher in addition to a communications array.
The drone on the right seems to have a sensor vane and shield generator.

The better picture of the Riptide makes me like it a bit more.

**Ouze**

Sidstyler wrote:
So is anyone having success brainstorming ways to possibly "save" the plastic flyer?

Yeah, turn it backwards. They have a few other aircraft with little canards like that. No way to easily turn the main wings into deltas like most of the other flies, though.

But we'll see with better pictures. I still can't really get a good feel for it yet.

**TBD**

Riptide seems to be suffering from thin-ankle syndrome even worse than regular Suits.

**Backfire**

Flyer looks if possible even worse from that angle, those large wings make it look very cumbersome and WW2ish.

Broadside is still too bad pic to make a judgement. Farsight is same or almost same than the GD model. I personally didn't like it, at least pose here is better. Then again, present O'Shovan model is so bad that anything is an improvement.

Large Pathfinder drone is...bizarre. Like huge column, doesn't really look like it could float.

Are those Pathfinders in Farsight enclave paint scheme? Very cool. Devilfish paint scheme steals my ideas. (but then again, I stole them from someone else).

**Zwan1One**

I really hope farsight is plastic...

**Backfire**

Sidstyler wrote:

So is anyone having success brainstorming ways to possibly "save" the plastic flyer? Is there any way to build something acceptable with this kit or is it just pure trash? Because I keep looking at the pic and trying, but the only part I can really see myself utilizing are the wings, and even that would take work.

Converting it to something acceptable takes so much time you're better off using time for working extra hours, make some money and buy FW Barracuda.

**Kanluwen**

Ouze wrote:
Sidstyler wrote:
So is anyone having success brainstorming ways to possibly "save" the plastic flyer?

Yeah, turn it backwards. They have a few other aircraft with little canards like that. No way to easily turn the main wings into deltas like most of the other flies, though.

But we'll see with better pictures. I still can't really get a good feel for it yet.

The biggest problem with the plastic kit seems to be that they made the wings too straight angled. The only flyer from Forge World for the Tau which has such a look is the Remora Drone Fighter.

If they had done a bit of a gradual curve to the wings I can see these flyers being much better received. Especially if the support struts on the rear were removed--I really have to wonder what they are there for.

**scarletsquig**

Brother Captain Alexander wrote:
scarletsquig wrote:
Can someone post a pic of these new flyers everyone is talking about?

They're not in the OP, and I'm not digging through 28 pages of discussion to find the page with them on.

This is from OP, somewhere after the middle of the post:

17.3.2013

Snufflesms wrote:

Just look a little better next time

Thanks for being patronizing, but all those pics are broken for me. Can someone just upload them to dakka?

**bit81**

Pics are crap so I cant judge yet

but best looking is the riptide although have to see it all in person if I like them then they may get used as allies for my eldar but see what happens wish they redone the crisis suits

**AndrewC**

jonolikespie wrote:
Some new pics.

Is that pulse rifles on the wing drones of the bomber/left side model?

Also I don't like the burst cannon on the other one. I hope that it has a serious range buff for it, otherwise it's a waste.

I would like to see the kit, I wonder if you could build it backwards? Reverse the engines and turn the 'chin' mount?

Cheers

Andrew

**SickSix**

Still no new kroot?

Well, the flyer might be ok if you remove those stupid support beams that serve no purpose.

**Kirby**

jonolikespie wrote:
Some new pics.

Spoiler:

A few pages back now I think someone pointed out the new leaked pics are the same terrible quality every month. I'd like to put my tinfoil hat on for a second and add that these look like a fan leak, the others are really terrible quality and only ever seem to lower expectations.

From 3++ - with added rules in the comments section.

**Backfire**

Riptide looks ok otherwise, but head is tad too small. Even if it would have been bit silly to have head just scaled up from regular suit along with the rest.

Spoiler:

Trying to read Farsight entry text, it speaks about "doubts about his loyalty". Did they tone down his fluff? So he's no longer separationist?

**Veskrashen**

AndrewC wrote:
Is that pulse rifles on the wing drones of the bomber/left side model?
Also I don't like the burst cannon on the other one. I hope that it has a serious range buff for it, otherwise it's a waste.

I'd be willing to bet that they're Rail Rifles instead of Pulse Rifles. Better range, S, and AP, and thus would be better against other flyers. This also opens up the interesting tactic (since they're turreted / rear facing) to bum rush into the rear arc of enemy flyers and hosing them that way.

As far as the burst cannon goes, I'm betting that it's probably S6/7 and longer range. The Riptide apparently comes with a big burst cannon, this one is probably along the same lines.

**sierra 1247**

Sod it, i may as welljust buy a megatron figure and put it onto a flying base...

**Snrub**

Grrr they went ahead and gave the riptide flimsy ankles. They will need to be pinned.

Wonder if farsight is finecast or not? If he is then new sculpt be damned, ill just convert him from a regular suit.

**Rented Tritium**

Over at 3++. there are a BUNCH of very specific rules being posted.

**Kirby**

He's finecast (Farsight).

**TBD**

I think Farsight is FC, unfortunately.

**Snrub**

RAAAGE... Eh screw it i'll just convert him.

Got a link or quote for those rules?

**Superscope**

What's with the riptide's TINY head.... seriously... it just looks like they forgot to make it bigger when they were up scaling a crisis suit.

Funny... but i reckon that the riptide's head would look better on standard XV8's ;p

**Rented Tritium**

http://www.3plusplus.net/2013/03/more-tau-picturez/

From the comments. User: Kirby

Skyray can shoot and ground and air targets (one assumes at full BS).

Stealthsuits are better at overwatching shooting at BS2 (yay...).

Special character is "like" Chronus for tanks.

Tank Hunters. Potential cover boost. Tank can overwatch.

Hammerhead roughly 160-170 WITH character.

Special Pathfinder - Nightstrider.

Shadowsun has split fire. Maybe.

Riptide roughly is T6/W4/2 Sv/5 invul with the special option working on a 3 or higher (i.e. 3plusplus , better blast, etc.). Around 175 pts with Ion Cannon (S8 Ap2 blast; super charge takes to S9?).

Maybe more than 4 wounds - 5 wounds!? And more gun options outside of Ion cannon - supporting missile pods?

Fast Attack is where new fliers are going and we still have Pathfinders and Piranhas (which are cheaper I think).

All Ion weapons have a 'supercharge' option but at a risk (gets hot?). Drones can have Ion weapons.

Interceptor drones are in!

Repulsor field. D6 s4 ap- hits to attacking units at I10

Supporting fire allows other Tau units within 6" to overwatch a charging unit as well. Not sure if this is all Tau units or just specific types.

Markerlights are for all intents and purposes, the same. Buff BS, remove cover. BS can be buffed for Overwatch but not sure if this counts for Skyfire, too.

There is somethign called.... puretide engram neurochip.

6 different types of drones.

Grav inhibitor
pulse accelerator
recon drone (which can fit in the turret cupola of a devikfish and provide communication relays and fire support)

Cadre Fireblade -

IC with split fire, markerlight, supporting fire, volley fire (+1 shot for Pulse Rifles/Carbines if unit and IC do not move).

Upgrade for Fire Warrior units - not sure if an actual IC or just has LoS! properties, etc.

Looks like he's still going, too.

Automatically Appended Next Post:

Superscope wrote:
What's with the riptide's TINY head.... seriously... it just looks like they forgot to make it bigger when they were up scaling a crisis suit.

Funny... but i reckon that the riptide's head would look better on standard XV8's ;p

Why would it need to be bigger? The tau are all about utility. If the riptide only needs the same sensor suite as the crisis, why would they go out of their way to make it easier to hit?

**H.B.M.C.**

I love the new Drones. They're awesome.

Broadside is... ok I guess.

The Riptide could be good; just depends on what's possible with the kit.

I assume/hope that the new Crisis Box is recut to include commander bits?

And I must say I actually like the planes. Pity they left some big parts of the sprue still attached and painted them like they're part of the ki... wait... sorry... *minion whispers in HBMC's ear* So they're part of the kit? Oh... that's unfortunate.

**Rented Tritium**

H.B.M.C. wrote:

And I must say I actually like the planes. Pity they left some big parts of the sprue still attached and painted them like they're part of the ki... wait... sorry... *minion whispers in HBMC's ear* So they're part of the kit? Oh... that's unfortunate.

Not for long they're not *snip snip*